2nd Cycle Test 400 + Tren E Proposition

Pharma / TRT
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Need suggestions on adding the tren and PCT just incase what i posted is not enough…

better to run more and make it 5-8 weeks of tren ?

btw currently waiting on the tren and caber, already pinned the test (couldnt wait lol)

Proposed cycle

Week 1 - 1 Test 400 @ 1000mg per week front load
Weeks 2-13 test 400 @ 500mg per week
weeks 3-13 Tren e @ 200mg per week

adex 0.5mg eod, caber on hand

PCT:
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Test 400 = 100mg test prop, 100mg test e, 100mg test c and 100mg test decan

^^ picked this because i didnt like the wait of 5-6 weeks for test e to kick in, so hoping the 125mg of prop every week in the blend would help make things happen sooner. was also cost affective and i do understand the need to pin eod

Will be bulking, 2 power lifting days, 3 hypertrophy days, mauy thai 2x a week for cardio while eating well over maintenance

I already pinned 0.5 ml on friday and another 0.5 ml sunday, then will spread 600mg eod as part of the front load.

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almost forgot…

Previous cycle:

weeks 1-5 test e 500mg
weeks 6-10 test prop 500mg/week

nolva 40/40/20/20 pct
(broke other vial of test e and finished with prop).

gained 10lbs lean whieght and kept all strength gained. (most of the gains were from the prop) bunk/underdosed test e ? not sure

current stats: 5’10 195lbs ~12%bf

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[quote]SomaliTerorist wrote:
Need suggestions on adding the tren and PCT just incase what i posted is not enough…

better to run more and make it 5-8 weeks of tren ?

btw currently waiting on the tren and caber, already pinned the test (couldnt wait lol)

Proposed cycle

Week 1 - 1 Test 400 @ 1000mg per week front load
Weeks 2-13 test 400 @ 500mg per week
weeks 3-13 Tren e @ 200mg per week

adex 0.5mg eod, caber on hand

PCT:
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Test 400 = 100mg test prop, 100mg test e, 100mg test c

^^ picked this because i didnt like the wait of 5-6 weeks for test e to kick in, so hoping the 125mg of prop every week in the blend would help make things happen sooner. was also cost affective and i do understand the need to pin eod

Will be bulking, 2 power lifting days, 3 hypertrophy days, mauy thai 2x a week for cardio while eating well over maintenance

I already pinned 0.5 ml on friday and another 0.5 ml sunday, then will spread 600mg eod as part of the front load.

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Fairly low dose of Tren dont you think? Also tren can have some nasty sides (from experience) in some users so it would be a precautionary measure to use Tren Acetate and assess your tolerance with it then to suffer the sides for a lot longer with the enanthate ester.

Also look into the test:tren, alot of people recommend going higher with tren and keeping the test at a maintenance dose. This seems to negate the tren sides.
I would also frontload the tren (if you have not got acetate) and decrease the cycle length to avoid that much of a lengthy suppression from tren (12 weeks), but that is just because tren shuts me down very hard.

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[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:

[quote]SomaliTerorist wrote:
Need suggestions on adding the tren and PCT just incase what i posted is not enough…

better to run more and make it 5-8 weeks of tren ?

btw currently waiting on the tren and caber, already pinned the test (couldnt wait lol)

Proposed cycle

Week 1 - 1 Test 400 @ 1000mg per week front load
Weeks 2-13 test 400 @ 500mg per week
weeks 3-13 Tren e @ 200mg per week

adex 0.5mg eod, caber on hand

PCT:
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Test 400 = 100mg test prop, 100mg test e, 100mg test c

^^ picked this because i didnt like the wait of 5-6 weeks for test e to kick in, so hoping the 125mg of prop every week in the blend would help make things happen sooner. was also cost affective and i do understand the need to pin eod

Will be bulking, 2 power lifting days, 3 hypertrophy days, mauy thai 2x a week for cardio while eating well over maintenance

I already pinned 0.5 ml on friday and another 0.5 ml sunday, then will spread 600mg eod as part of the front load.

[/quote]

Fairly low dose of Tren dont you think? Also tren can have some nasty sides (from experience) in some users so it would be a precautionary measure to use Tren Acetate and assess your tolerance with it then to suffer the sides for a lot longer with the enanthate ester.

Also look into the test:tren, alot of people recommend going higher with tren and keeping the test at a maintenance dose. This seems to negate the tren sides.
I would also frontload the tren (if you have not got acetate) and decrease the cycle length to avoid that much of a lengthy suppression from tren (12 weeks), but that is just because tren shuts me down very hard.[/quote]
thats the point of the lower dose, see how i react to it and have some extra fun on cycle.

Tell more about decreasing the cycle length please… I have it that long because of the ong esthers wont kick in till weeks 5-7 which will give me 5-8 weeks of being “on” but if its a bad idea i would like to see better suggestions.

Keep in mind the test blend i am using (100mg prop. 100mg e, 100mgtest c, 100mg test decanate)

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[quote]SomaliTerorist wrote:

[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:

[quote]SomaliTerorist wrote:
Need suggestions on adding the tren and PCT just incase what i posted is not enough…

better to run more and make it 5-8 weeks of tren ?

btw currently waiting on the tren and caber, already pinned the test (couldnt wait lol)

Proposed cycle

Week 1 - 1 Test 400 @ 1000mg per week front load
Weeks 2-13 test 400 @ 500mg per week
weeks 3-13 Tren e @ 200mg per week

adex 0.5mg eod, caber on hand

PCT:
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Test 400 = 100mg test prop, 100mg test e, 100mg test c

^^ picked this because i didnt like the wait of 5-6 weeks for test e to kick in, so hoping the 125mg of prop every week in the blend would help make things happen sooner. was also cost affective and i do understand the need to pin eod

Will be bulking, 2 power lifting days, 3 hypertrophy days, mauy thai 2x a week for cardio while eating well over maintenance

I already pinned 0.5 ml on friday and another 0.5 ml sunday, then will spread 600mg eod as part of the front load.

[/quote]

Fairly low dose of Tren dont you think? Also tren can have some nasty sides (from experience) in some users so it would be a precautionary measure to use Tren Acetate and assess your tolerance with it then to suffer the sides for a lot longer with the enanthate ester.

Also look into the test:tren, alot of people recommend going higher with tren and keeping the test at a maintenance dose. This seems to negate the tren sides.
I would also frontload the tren (if you have not got acetate) and decrease the cycle length to avoid that much of a lengthy suppression from tren (12 weeks), but that is just because tren shuts me down very hard.[/quote]
thats the point of the lower dose, see how i react to it and have some extra fun on cycle.

Tell more about decreasing the cycle length please… I have it that long because of the ong esthers wont kick in till weeks 5-7 which will give me 5-8 weeks of being “on” but if its a bad idea i would like to see better suggestions.

Keep in mind the test blend i am using (100mg prop. 100mg e, 100mgtest c, 100mg test decanate)[/quote]
Tren shuts you down very hard and dramatically. So for ME I would keep the length it is being used to a minimum eg Test P and Tren A cycle would be much better then the cycle you wish to do. Run it for 6 weeks and bam! You will look good and gain well.

But each to their own, Do what you will. This has just worked for ME, not necessarily for you.

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not much help in my situation as i am already pinning test 400 blend… how about i blast the vial of tren for 6 weeks ?

What is tren enanthate esther like ?

I will have caber so progesterone sides will be controled… then i finish with my test blend for 12 weeks

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[quote]SomaliTerorist wrote:
not much help in my situation as i am already pinning test 400 blend… how about i blast the vial of tren for 6 weeks ?

What is tren enanthate esther like ?

I will have caber so progesterone sides will be controled… then i finish with my test blend for 12 weeks[/quote]

That is a better idea to blast the tren but then again you still have the same problem of tolerating the sides should they present themselves.
Caber is a necessity with Tren as it raises prolactin levels rapidly (from 70 to 300 for me)and can have you lactating and with ED.

I dont understand what you mean by what the ester is like? It is like any other enanthate ester with the same half life. In terms of sides, I dont know as Ive only ever run Tren Ace.
Also you say it will give you 5-8 weeks of being ‘on’, thats fine but you must realise the suppression will start well before that (on the first week).

Hope that helps.