[quote]andrew_live wrote:
would I want to be able to do what these guys do and look like them? Hellz yeah, would I be willing to give up deadlifting and squats to get there? Hell no (Looks like they could bench good numbers).
Must be a happy medium somewhere.[/quote]
Who says you cant do both?
[quote]Abou wrote:
I’d just want to point out that Im not attacking these guys I know they are way stronger than me, but I always read on this site about doing deadlifts and squats…all the fucking time lol…and when someone says they dont do them they get flamed for it, but these guys clearly do nothing for their legs.
but I do appreciate how the things they do are immense, they’re more like a circus act tho arent they? rather than BBers.[/quote]
I don’t do deadlifts.
I don’t squat with a barbell (anymore for years).
Flame me.
I am also willing to bet every person who would flame me for it is carrying less muscle and is weaker than me.
^^^This is old and has been brought up before. You asked an honest question so this is a piece of what was in the original thread:
"Ten years ago the Bartendaz founder, Hassan Yasin, was practicing his own unique fitness drills at a park in Harlem. Intrigued, a group of young men nearby began watching and asked for him to explain his technique. Within a few weeks, the number of followers was in the dozens. And within 5 years, the Bartendaz method was being instructed in over 40 New York City Public Schools.
The most remarkable result of the program was not the increase in muscular strength and capacity but the dramatic turnaround in the lives of the students. In finding gratification and peer validation in fitness, many of the students chose to veer away from vice and delinquency and reshape their lives. Because of its foundation in hip-hop culture, Bartendaz has been extraordinarily popular with urban youth, and has been a huge success in the most high-risk schools.
The Bartendaz program uses a down to earth approach, integrating martial style discipline with dynamic rhythmic drills. This fusion is so engaging that it allows for seamless leadership training and public health education. As such, practitioners of Bartendaz not only advance in their physical fitness, they advance towards their actualization and life goals"
Can we get a sticky on this? Not for “it’s already been talked about” purposes but to let people know of this badass workout.
I just did some of their more basic stuff during lunch and holy hell… it’s quite intense!
I think we here at T-Nation should do more in noticing the Bartendaz and GIANT.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Look at olympic gymnasts, the best talent and genes assembled, are they all strong and buff? Nope, some are even quite thin.
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Unless you’re also lumping women gymnasts into you’re “olympic gymnasts” tag they you are completely wrong. (even if you were lumping women gymnasts in there those girls are really strong respectively)
How can you say that all Olympic Gymnasts aren’t strong? That is the most ignorant comment I’ve heard on this site in a loooooooong time.
.greg.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t do deadlifts.
I don’t squat with a barbell (anymore for years).
Flame me.
I am also willing to bet every person who would flame me for it is carrying less muscle and is weaker than me.[/quote]
FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!
hahahahaha just messin Prof. X
Squats and Deads are good exercises. They’re exercises I use every week but as long as we’re talking body building there is no rule that says you HAVE to use these exercises. If you find an exercise that works better for devolping bigger stronger legs than squats then why would you do squats? Why would you limit yourself to a less than optimal exercise? Its a pretty simple concept if you think about it.
.greg.
[quote]gregron wrote:
How can you say that all Olympic Gymnasts aren’t strong? That is the most ignorant comment I’ve heard on this site in a loooooooong time.
.greg.[/quote]
They’re relatively strong compared to their bodyweight. I’ve never seen one bench press 400 pounds.
Open can of worms…NOW!
^12
I’m not sure how many non-powerlifter on this site can bench 400.
Whole can of worms…
Oh, so when I flex my arm and it’s 13" that means I have bigger arms than average men? That is awesome.
[quote]four60 wrote:
^12
I’m not sure how many non-powerlifter on this site can bench 400.
Whole can of worms…[/quote]
Raises hand…and eats can of worms.
[quote]four60 wrote:
^12
I’m not sure how many non-powerlifter on this site can bench 400.
Whole can of worms…[/quote]
I can but if I don’t let it touch my chest does it count?
[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
Oh, so when I flex my arm and it’s 13" that means I have bigger arms than average men? That is awesome.[/quote]
Yes, according to some sources, most men on the planet have arms smaller than you…and I am apparently ignorant for not realizing this.
looks like they also have a good support group surounding them which would help too…
on the other side of the coin, how many people that bench 400 can do a muscle up or planche push ups
^Lowers hand and whistles…
But I can do pull ups .
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
Oh, so when I flex my arm and it’s 13" that means I have bigger arms than average men? That is awesome.[/quote]
Yes, according to some sources, most men on the planet have arms smaller than you…and I am apparently ignorant for not realizing this.[/quote]
Yep, just travel around Asia and look for yourself. 13" most definitely owns the planet’s male average. Keep in mind countries like China or India don’t even share our concept of “sport” or “training” .
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
Oh, so when I flex my arm and it’s 13" that means I have bigger arms than average men? That is awesome.[/quote]
Yes, according to some sources, most men on the planet have arms smaller than you…and I am apparently ignorant for not realizing this.[/quote]
Yep, just travel around Asia and look for yourself. 13" most definitely owns the planet’s male average. Keep in mind countries like China or India don’t even share our concept of “sport” or “training” .[/quote]
Why the fuck would I care about how very short Asians in China are fairing with biceps size?
You decided to call my first post in this thread “ignorant” because people in China may have small arms?
Fucking really?
I live in the US. What is the excuse here?
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
How can you say that all Olympic Gymnasts aren’t strong? That is the most ignorant comment I’ve heard on this site in a loooooooong time.
.greg.[/quote]
They’re relatively strong compared to their bodyweight. I’ve never seen one bench press 400 pounds.
Open can of worms…NOW!
[/quote]
Agreed… but “strong” is a relative term isnt it?
.greg.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t do deadlifts.
I don’t squat with a barbell (anymore for years).
Flame me.[/quote]
no flaming. but i must ask. why don’t you do deadlifts and barbell squat?
the squat since you specified with a barbell i have to think could be a shoulder problem?
[quote]HERC410 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t do deadlifts.
I don’t squat with a barbell (anymore for years).
Flame me.[/quote]
no flaming. but i must ask. why don’t you do deadlifts and barbell squat?
the squat since you specified with a barbell i have to think could be a shoulder problem?[/quote]
I use a squat machine. My usual routine is leg extensions, unilateral leg presses and then the squat machine until I can’t see straight (I often do leg curls after this but that depends on the level of nausea).
I think the real question is why you think I need to add it just because it is most popular.
Why does there need to be a problem? I know what works for me. Can you say the same?