So get test, estradol, LH and FSH tested correct?
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]powerstrokin wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
did you get your E tested? I wouldn’t do anything until after that[/quote]
no i didnt. do you think if i go to the next state over il have a problem ? i pmed you[/quote]
PMs don’t work, and I’m Scottish so I can’t help you with that.
I will say that you really do need to get a full hormone profile before you start blindly throwing medications at your problem.[/quote]
So based off my latest blood work above what should I do?
What now no one has anything to say?
A month ago my test serum was 348 NG and free test was 7.9pg
I just got my blood redone and here are the results.
Test serum- 431ng/dl
Free test - 8.0 pg/ml
LH - 7.4 mIU/ml
FSH - 4.3 mIU/ml
Estradiol- 22.5 pg/ml
Prolactin -20.7 ng/ml
prolactin is high, it’s supposed to be between 4.0 - 15. Any ways I’m still taking phytoserms serms and Tribulus because thats all I had at the time. I have HCG clomid and nolva on the way. What should I do?
I’m guessing your lh levels are high because of the phytoserms?
In that case, I would use a dopamine agonist like cabergolin 0.25mg twice a week for the prolactin (if you are unable to get caber in PILL form, don’t buy it. Sound out here and you can get alternatives.) and aromasin 6.25mg EOD to bring your estrogen down to the low end range and increase free test.
Get another blood test in a month and see how it goes.
So I should not do what yogi suggested,
and do 1000iu hCG eod for a total of 10,000iu
-4 weeks of clomid at 50mg, with a 5th at clomid 50mg eod
-In week 3 of the clomid I’d add nolva at 20mg daily for 4 weeks.
That was before you got your test results which reveal high lh(which I think is a result of phytoserms) and high prolactin levels. I doubt anyone suspected it as you did not say you used any 19-nors. Unless you have been using D aspartic acid.
I think the best course of action now is to get your prolactin in check first to eliminate that as a factor.
This is based off your current test results and my personal experience with self-medication. You may want to visit your endo to get a more concise one and work with him instead.
Doctor ordered me to get another blood test in 6 weeks and then go from there.
I just want to get my body to recover because it’s been months since I last did pct.
Then you can either do what I told you to do or wait for your appointment with the endo. Either way, ditch the bloody phytoserms or you will screw up the lab results.
I don’t have aromasin and I’m not sure where I’m going to get cabergolin. The only think I have access to right now is adex, and some clomid. I have HCG, nolva and clomid on the way.
And I only started taking phytoserms because thats all I had access too after my 1st blood test .
Isn’t this the same guy who was running 2 grams of test forever and won’t listen to anyone?
[quote]dt79 wrote:
In that case, I would use a dopamine agonist like cabergolin 0.25mg twice a week for the prolactin (if you are unable to get caber in PILL form, don’t buy it. Sound out here and you can get alternatives.) and aromasin 6.25mg EOD to bring your estrogen down to the low end range and increase free test.
Get another blood test in a month and see how it goes.[/quote]
^yup.
[quote]nooberific wrote:
Isn’t this the same guy who was running 2 grams of test forever and won’t listen to anyone?[/quote]
No Im not. I just need to know how to lower my estrogen with what i have access to.
[quote]powerstrokin wrote:
[quote]nooberific wrote:
Isn’t this the same guy who was running 2 grams of test forever and won’t listen to anyone?[/quote]
No Im not. I just need to know how to lower my estrogen with what i have access to. [/quote]
use the a-dex (.25 mg EOD or so) and get something to lower your prolactin (caber, prami, bromo, etc…)
[quote]powerstrokin wrote:
[quote]nooberific wrote:
Isn’t this the same guy who was running 2 grams of test forever and won’t listen to anyone?[/quote]
No Im not. I just need to know how to lower my estrogen with what i have access to. [/quote]
Why lower estro when its 22? Thats a good number
You mentioned dopamine, I’m prescribed vyvanse and Prozac. I know Prozac effects dopamine.
You are on anti-depressants? You should have mentioned them from the start for fuck’s sake.
Go to your shrink, show him your test results and tell him you have erectile dysfunction. Disregard any previous advice.
Abstract
PURPOSE: To evaluate endocrine profile and hypothalamic-pituitary-testis (HPT) axis in male depressed patients with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI)-induced sexual dysfunction (SDF).
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Eighty-six fertile depressed male patients with SSRI-induced SDF, aged 18 to 50 years, were enrolled in the study (group 1). Sixty-two age-matched depressed fertile patients who currently receive one of the SSRIs but without SDF (group 2), and 68 age-matched healthy fertile men who had never received a psychiatric diagnosis (group 3) served as controls.
Pretreatment evaluation included history and physical examination and International Index of Erectile Function. Two blood samples were drawn from each subject at 20-minute intervals for the determination of the resting levels of the following hormones: luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, prolactin, and estradiol. The HPT axis was also assessed using the gonadotropin-releasing hormone test.
RESULTS: The prevalence of hormonal abnormalities in groups 1, 2, and 3 were 83.7% (72), 51.6% (32), and 11.8% (7), respectively (P = 0.001 vs group 1 and 0.007 vs group 2). Compared with normal controls, the subjects taking SSRIs had significantly lower serum levels of LH, FSH, and testosterone. In addition, there were significantly decreased LH and FSH responses to gonadotropin-releasing hormone test in groups 1 and 2 compared with normal controls. Of patients in groups 1 and 2, 68 (79.1%) and 27 (43.5%) had elevated serum levels of prolactin (P = 0.0001 vs group 1 and 0.001 vs group 2).
CONCLUSIONS: Most depressed subjects taking SSRIs with and without SDF had diminished HPT axis function.