In late august i started my 15 week cycle of test e and used test p as a kickstart to see gains right away… My pct plan was 50 mg of clomid for 4 weeks after my last shot of test e in December. After taking 2 months off aas, i did a anavar only cycle at 50 mg for 4 weeksâ?¦I did not take clomid after the anavar (as i was told it was not needed) As i now know, anavar will shut you down. So now i have been having the symptoms of low libido, no erections, no morning wood, penis is “turtling”, feels like it has no blood pumping through it and my nuts have deffinetly shrunken.
I have a planned appt for full blood work and will post my results when i get them. I am looking for any suggestions on what i should do now. Do i need hcg? more clomid? Please help as I need to know the reason for the problems i am encountering. This experience has made me question the usage of aas at such a young age. Can i be fixed?
I’m not sure this experience should question the use of AAS at a young age; it should question how much research you did prior to using, and how much you used your brain during the whole process.
As the above said, get blood work done. Might be a little too late for Clomid / Nolva, you might need HCG.
[quote]CxTucker wrote:
I’m not sure this experience should question the use of AAS at a young age; it should question how much research you did prior to using, and how much you used your brain during the whole process.
As the above said, get blood work done. Might be a little too late for Clomid / Nolva, you might need Letro / HCG.[/quote]
HCG my man. At a young age I highly recommend it. Im thankful that I used it because its making recovery a lot easier so far. Its a price that you have to be willing to take when you decide to do this stuff. There are always risks when you are messing with your hormones, but you are at greater risk for being so young. Get your bloodwork done first and go from there. I never recovered fully from a PH cycle I did over a year ago, and was tired of feeling like shit all the time so I just decided to cycle. But I used HCG, and its making recovery a lot easier
You don’t want to go on TRT at 18 years old - trust me. Get blood work done, but this is the restart protocol I use with my younger clients who have dabbled a little too early:
HCG - 1000iu EOD for 10 shots with .75mg letro 2x week
Only after HCG is done do you start Clomid at 100mg/day for 7 days with Toremifene Citrate (not nolvadex) at 120mg/day for 7 days.
Then, 50mg/day Clomid for 3 weeks with Toremifene at 60mg/day for same 3 weeks.
After which you need to stay off till your 24 years old and dedicate 5hrs a week minimum to studying these compounds as your reasoning for what you have done in the past is not congruent with any recent findings or understandings of hormone manipulation. In other words your first PCT was bullshit and its the reason your in this position now.
Best of luck brother, don’t mean to be harsh just don’t want you to end up with long term problems
My Estradiol level seemed to be pretty high in the blood work results that came in… This is probably the major reason, i am experiencicng libido problems. Is there anything i can take to lower these levels? Hcgenerate? and Post cycle? from n2bm.com
if the estrogen is the only thing that is out of range… and assuming it’s not out of range by a considerable margin, I feel that zinc will be an effective countermeasure - it’s nature’s best anti-aromatase. there was a guy on T-Nation who didn’t use AAS, but supplemented with adex because he had naturally elevated estrogen levels. this may be something that you want to consult with your endocrinologist about.
this is typically why I recommend people get full blood panel done before cycling, so you know all of your levels - and where you must be to be back to neutral.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
if the estrogen is the only thing that is out of range… and assuming it’s not out of range by a considerable margin, I feel that zinc will be an effective countermeasure - it’s nature’s best anti-aromatase. there was a guy on T-Nation who didn’t use AAS, but supplemented with adex because he had naturally elevated estrogen levels. this may be something that you want to consult with your endocrinologist about.
this is typically why I recommend people get full blood panel done before cycling, so you know all of your levels - and where you must be to be back to neutral.
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People take the $50 and 30 mins out of their day to be responsible when starting to take drugs to eliminate uncertainty in the future and eliminate 99% of these stupid threads of people guessing what is wrong with them and reporting to coming online where people start prescribing AIs/serms/dopamine agonists without any logical dosage or reason?
Hello, back again. I have visited about 3 doctors and they have done nothing really to help with my ED problems. I am still having no morning wood and no sex drive… I have not done anything to try and boost my libido. Since the doctors, told me to just wait it out… Its been a few months since my last post and was wondering if HCG is my solution. And if it is what should be the correct dosage? I cannot take any SERMS with the hcg due to drug testing in the fall… Please let me know what i should do.