2020 Olympia - Can Curry Repeat?

I once found myself doing biceps curls next to Evan Centopani who was doing lat raises.

I’ve been around pro Strongmen and those guys do make you feel like a 10 year old boy standing next to your dad, particularly the hands.

But the hardness, and density, the way you can see the muscles moving because of the low bodyfat and enlarged muscles plus crazy width and V-taper that the pro-bodybuilders have is quite striking in a different way. Particularly because there’s every chance you are taller than them.

The way I would put it is meeting a pro Strongman is like meeting a different species, like an ogre. But a pro bodybuilder is like an engineered human.

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My brother in law is Anthony Vidal. He actually qualified for the Arnold this past year in arm wrestling, but with covid, and the fact that he completely tore his quad a few weeks before, it wasn’t going to happen.

You know, the term “monster” gets thrown around a lot, and IMO it can be someone who just pushes the boundaries so much, in a positive way (ie. Yates in 1993), or it can be someone who pushes them so much, but arguably crosses the line with something like bodybuilding where you will always hear the term “aesthetics.”

I loved Marcus Ruhl, but even Yates conceded that he’d never win the Olympia with how they judge contests.

The last several years, I can see things going a bit… let’s say badly. Phil won because he was the best guy onstage the first few years, but his physique seemed to deteriorate his last few, and to be honest he didn’t have the most aesthetic physique ever, or else we would never have seen the concept of “classic” even come to mind.

That’s a pretty good description with the walnuts -lol. I have to think that the gear is what plays such a serious role in the malformed bodies we see onstage. Arnold in his prime (IMO 1974) compared to any of today’s open BBers,… I would venture to guess that no one on the street, even most hardcore gym trainers would prefer to look like Phil over Arnold.

I can still picture those old photos of Arnold sitting in a college class, sweater and jeans, and his midsection just small, if not merely normal looking. Now find any pic of Phil just sitting around, and while his arms are gonna look the size of small children, his chest and midsection just mesh together into one giant mass… Again, if we’re talking aesthetics, if we’re talking the “art-form” of bodybuilding, then its easy to argue that some have pushed too far.

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I second this, always though he had a good personality and loved his photoshoots in the old magazines.

Big guy. I just pulled a picture of him doing an axle press. Those 45lb plates look like 22’s…

He is a poet my friend.

It’s a shame you feel there is a tipping point coming. Or perhaps its for the best? I mean I 100% appreciate people want to see the freak show. But I honestly have serious misgivings. For me - no one takes the risks from these guys do in their right mind.
I’m not talking about running a bit of T. But when you read guys are running 2g a week. Thats some people weekly cycle A DAY. If these bodybuilders were having monthly plastic surgery (a relatively safe procedure) we would be lambasting them. It’s also note worthy that every other sport in the world is moving toward player safety. BB is instead rewarding the guys that take the MOST risks.
I’m all for “it’s your life”. But dont dangle the carrot over the cliff around guys that just cant help it.

Early 70’s BBers where the principal of human aesthetics. Arnold above even them given his height and mass.

Thanks for the insight. Its appreciated.

I always thought Lou Ferrigno at 6’5" (reported) and just massive had one of the best physiques ever that didn’t look out of proportion to his frame. An argument can be made that he should have beat Arnold at the O. the year “pumping iron” was filmed (again, subjective sport and all that).
For goodness sake, he didn’t even need CGI to be believable as the hulk. Plus, I watched old WSM’s where he competed and dude was strong to boot.

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I think it’s safe to say you’re pretty big when you can come out of retirement and make Yates look small.
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I hate to break it to you, but that’s nothing. There are plenty of Strongmen doing more than that on cycle, and historically they were doing more than now in my guesstimation.

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Yeah - I suppose that make sence.

More gear = more results. Why stop at 2g? In reality it’s just a number.

With regards to strong man I have a similar issue with the pros. I mean you dont SEEM to get the early deaths in strong men. But I was watching something by Eddie Hall about his sleep apnea. And that must effect close to 100% if not 100% of strong men (neck size over 23 inch gives you apnea). Its all encouraging people to take massive health risks for our entertainment.

Jon Pall Sigmarsson
OD Wilson
Johnny Perry
Grizzly Brown
Mike Jenkins
Jesse Marunde

I am sure I am forgetting some guys, but these were high level (WSM) type competitors.

So, a lot of guys don’t make it to Pro. You will not generally hear about the Amateurs that drop dead, but there are plenty. There is a limit as far as returns for investment. Above a certain level just causes more issues and doesn’t reward the suffering. I have heard some insane numbers for usage, and been told that it was not worth it and less is more. Which is relative. As in 3 or 4 grams is better than 12.

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This is what I am thinking gets used. It is downplayed, but it isn’t a gram it is multiple in almost all cases. Maybe these guys are giving their cruise doses like they are the blast doses?

Cruise dose is generally 1 gram of test, from what I have heard. Unless things have changed. I’m sure some guys cruise a little higher and some a little lower.

I believe that. I know a few that run close to those numbers as cruise. 500 mg/wk is also pretty popular. I know a guy who runs 500 Test / 500 EQ as a cruise with good results. These guys are delusional IMO if they think that isn’t going to catch up with them (or at least have a very high probability of issues).

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They don’t care generally. Consequences are “Future me”, results are “Present me”. That’s going to be “Future me”'s problem. Short term reward versus long term thinking.

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I’ll stand corrected.

One of the most interesting human behaviours is the difference in the way we treat chronic and acute risk. For example I work as site management. A lot of my job is health and safety.
In the UK 30-40 people a year die on construction sites. And we spend millions as an industry trying to reduce that number.
5000 people a year die of dust inhalation which might take 20-30 years to get you. 0 action.

It’s the same thing with PEDs.

This has been shown with research too. It is why smoking is so dangerous. That one cig isn’t going to kill you now, but keep doing it and it is a different story. We have a much harder time with those risks.

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So I saw Curry’s latest pics on Instagram, and let me just say that I am rethinking his chances of repeating. Structurally, he’s more complete than Phil. Throw in similar size and better conditioning, and I don’t think it’s a contest.

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His hamstrings looked a lot bigger than last year in the pics I saw.

I have the same concerns for curry that I did about Rhoden . Have size by all means, but don’t ruin that structure or those lines that give you a heads up over competitors like Phil.

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