[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Drafting is a total crap shoot. [/quote]
I dont feel like looking up the odds of a #1 overall pick being successful vs. picks after the 1st round.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Drafting is a total crap shoot. [/quote]
I dont feel like looking up the odds of a #1 overall pick being successful vs. picks after the 1st round. [/quote]
I don’t know either, but I bet the percentage of #1 overall picks being great is like 5%.
Looking at the picks back to Manning:
Clowney - Remains to be seen
Fisher - No idea
Luck - Great
Newton - Okay, not great
Bradford - Bust
Stafford - Good, hasn’t won anything
Long - Not sure
Russell - Bust
Williams - Not sure
Smith - Okay
Manning - Okay only because of Super Bowl wins
Palmer - Okay
Carr - Bust
Vick - Ups and downs
Brown - Not sure
Couch - Who??
Manning - Possibly GOAT
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
If the Pats make the superbowl and lose, Brady will be 3-3 in superbowl appearances. Does that hurt his legacy as being so poised in big games?
Btw, 6 superbowls in 13 years is ridiculous. Multiple other Championship games to boot. [/quote]
For some, it will negatively affect the legacy part where they said he was the coolest under pressure, best in the big games, blah blah blah.
For the fans that watched him over his entire season, that know what’s gone down in the Pats organization while he’s been here…They’ll(I included) will still view him as the greatest QB ever.
For the voices that “matter” i.e. The professional Monday morning quaterbacks…He’ll always be second to Montana…4 up 4 down is just unprecedented.
The real question is who’s better Brady or Mann…hahahaaha fuck I couldn’t even finish typing. Ice Up Manning, Ice Up.
This Jim Tomsula interview is gold.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Drafting is a total crap shoot. [/quote]
I dont feel like looking up the odds of a #1 overall pick being successful vs. picks after the 1st round. [/quote]
I don’t know either, but I bet the percentage of #1 overall picks being great is like 5%.
Looking at the picks back to Manning:
Clowney - Remains to be seen
Fisher - No idea
Luck - Great
Newton - Okay, not great
Bradford - Bust
Stafford - Good, hasn’t won anything
Long - Not sure
Russell - Bust
Williams - Not sure
Smith - Okay
Manning - Okay only because of Super Bowl wins
Palmer - Okay
Carr - Bust
Vick - Ups and downs
Brown - Not sure
Couch - Who??
Manning - Possibly GOAT
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How fucking lucky are the Colts? They have had the number one overall pick twice in the last 14 years and they have the chance to be two of the great quarterbacks of our time.
How rad would it be to see both Luck and Wilson go head to head in the Super Bowl?
My ideal Super Bowl would be the Colts vs. Packers which are both the underdogs but fuck the Pats and Brady.
Luck was projected to be the number one pick in the 2011 draft, but stayed in school. The Colts put the franchise tag on Manning that season. After the season Irsay fired the Pollans. The Pollans are Manning fans. The Colts made the playoffs 10 straight years prior to the 2011 season, and the first three seasons with Luck. The only year they didn’t make the playoffs in the last 14 years is the 2011 season, not only did they not make the playoffs that year, they had the worst record giving them the number one pick in the 2012 draft. I don’t believe it was luck they got Luck.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I don’t believe it was luck they got Luck.[/quote]
It was one of the all time best tanking jobs to replace Manning with the next Manning. Do people forget “Suck for Luck” ?
Hopefully the weather will pound Foxboro and force the colts to attempt running the ball.
Why is the early game on the west coast, and the later game on the east coast? I dunno, seems odd to me but whatever.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Luck was projected to be the number one pick in the 2011 draft, but stayed in school. The Colts put the franchise tag on Manning that season. After the season Irsay fired the Pollans. The Pollans are Manning fans. The Colts made the playoffs 10 straight years prior to the 2011 season, and the first three seasons with Luck. The only year they didn’t make the playoffs in the last 14 years is the 2011 season, not only did they not make the playoffs that year, they had the worst record giving them the number one pick in the 2012 draft. I don’t believe it was luck they got Luck.[/quote]
You just explained WHY it’s luck that they got him.
Dude had graduated from Stanford and was the lock #1 pick. Stays in school anyway. Peyton Manning has a serious injury for the first time in his career, causes him to miss a season, Colts go from having 11+ wins every year to finishing 2-14 with the #1 pick. None of that was planned, it just fell in their lap.
Unrelated, I just looked at 2011 to remember which draft that was and holy fuck, 12 of the top 16 picks have been pro bowlers. What a successful top end of the draft that turned out to be.
I’m not saying they could have made the playoffs that year, I’m just saying they tanked the season in order to get Luck. Like Aggv posted they “suck for Luck”
Luck could be incredible in the long term, more athletic than Peyton Manning IMO.
Seattle is giving this game away so far.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I’m not saying they could have made the playoffs that year, I’m just saying they tanked the season in order to get Luck. Like Aggv posted they “suck for Luck”[/quote]
Yea I’m sure all those professional players and coaches tanked on getting a college kid.
Also what happened to Polian after that genius tank move?
Oh yea he got fired.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I’m not saying they could have made the playoffs that year, I’m just saying they tanked the season in order to get Luck. Like Aggv posted they “suck for Luck”[/quote]
But everything before they ‘tanked’(I mean, that team was fucking garbage, not like they had to try really hard to accomplish that) just fell into place out of sheer luck.
They had even signed Peyton to a 5 year contract on July 30th of that year, AFTER his first surgery. They clearly didn’t think they were tanking to sign Luck at that moment. Then consider my above comment about Luck returning to school after graduating when he would’ve been the #1 pick ahead of Cam Newton anyway.
Colts got lucky.
I might be miss remembering some things about the drafting of Luck. I’ll look at later when I have more time to refresh myself on what all was going on. I know that I was under the impression at the time that the Colts were playing for the number one pick.
Last 3 minutes of the game = WTF !!!
Are you sure the NFL isn’t fixed? Do the Packers want the Seahawks to win? That is one of the worst playoff collapses I have seen even though it is going to overtime. From the dropped onside kick to the 2 point conversion that could have easily been batted down.
I felt a little bad for that dude who dropped the onside kick when the coach was just chewing his ass out. Well I don’t think you can count it a drop if it hits you in the head.
Dude wtf??? I walked away for like 5 minutes and the NFC Championship is in overtime! The fuck!
Unreal