I used to descend and ascend like a squat (ass way back) but was told to stop that because it does cause the hips to be too far behind the bar. Hence I’m working on descending straight down like a plie and keeping my chest up. Then the pull should be straight up and back.
The complexity of the lifts is what keeps us all here. Otherwise, there’d be nothing to talk about.
But remember this, Joe. No one remembers the form etc. when you’re on the platform. You either get the lift or you don’t. I have to remind myself of this so I don’t get too hung up on execution perfection.
I watch your lifts and read your posts and realize that someday soon your lifts are going to take off. I wish I had the patience and willingness to learn like you obviously do, good work.
[quote]PeteS wrote:
butt too high in the air, you were nearly stiff legged sumo…[/quote]
Let me ask a question Pete. I keep hearing you don’t want to squat the weight up or that you do. How much lower, in your opinion, should I drop my hips?[/quote]
I’d like to hear this as well. I have a higher set up because I have longer arms but when I’m tired and lack focus, I lean over the bar and it’s all back. For me, that’s the leading reason I can’t pull.[/quote]
don’t take the ‘don’t squat the weight up’ too much to heart. especially sumo, the whole point is to make your legs the main driver of the lift. with conventional the legs are the initiator, the back (erectors, lats, traps) the finisher. with sumo it is much more reliant on the legs. I like the comment below about getting your feet a little further out, and angles out. I also like the comment about ‘leg pressing’ the weight. hands as hooks, try to leg press it up, then just a little bit of lats/traps/erectors at the lockout.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
I think the “nutsack on the bar” line is being taken out of context. It’s not so much drop them “on” the bar, but rather the knees flex outwards and you keep upright so that you are dropping straight down so that your center of gravity doesn’t get behind the bar and then you need to lift with your back.
Joe, if you can get your stance a bit wider, turn your feet out, spread your knees so they track along the bar, drop down, chest high and pull (actually, push with your legs)…I think you will be in good shape.[/quote]
Catchin back up here, again. Your looking great. When I read this by Git it made me think of the way George, (soldog) does his Sumo’s. Everytime I watch his vids I’m afraid he’s gonna put the weights down on his toes.
I watch your lifts and read your posts and realize that someday soon your lifts are going to take off. I wish I had the patience and willingness to learn like you obviously do, good work. [/quote]
I’m trying, I just seem to be unaturally bad at powerlifting.
Ahh Joe. You sound like me. I have all this information to share but kinda-sorta really suck at the sport myself. It’s only because of perseverance that I’m around at all. But that’s gotta count for something, eh?
That 260 is easily within your reach. Truly. I really enjoy following your progress.
I’m just shaking my head at both Joe and Snapper for saying they suck at powerlifting. First of all, a dope slap for the negative self-talk. Second, how can you suck if you are still getting PRs? Compared to who do you suck? And why is a comparison to anyone else so damn important? Just full of questions tonight…
joe I have about the same sticking point on bench and think I am going to add some paused clap push ups to help develop speed off the chest I think a focus on some speed work would push you through that sticking point
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I used to descend and ascend like a squat (ass way back) but was told to stop that because it does cause the hips to be too far behind the bar. Hence I’m working on descending straight down like a plie and keeping my chest up. Then the pull should be straight up and back.
The complexity of the lifts is what keeps us all here. Otherwise, there’d be nothing to talk about.
But remember this, Joe. No one remembers the form etc. when you’re on the platform. You either get the lift or you don’t. I have to remind myself of this so I don’t get too hung up on execution perfection.[/quote]
I keep thinking about this. I struggle with form at the gym then when I get to the meet somehow not only do I lift heavier than I can at the gym but my form is much better as well, particularly on squat.
It doesn’t make sense but it is how things seem to go.
I have watched the video, at least, 6 times and something about your arch doesn’t “look” quite right. I may be hallucinating, of course, and I can’t put my finger on it. TO ME (take this with a grain of salt, as I can’t get my own shit straight), it looks like you lose some of your arch, when you unrack it. And that you try to reestablish it just as you start to lower the weight. But I may be misreading what I am seeing.
If you set the arch high and fill your lungs, right before liftoff, locking your arch hard with your legs, so that you are high on your shoulders/traps. I have to consciously think about doing that on every heavy set that I do. Of course, it would help if the fucktards trying to spot you would actually carry most of the load at liftoff, so that lifting it doesn’t alter your arch/shoulder position.
In any case, I could be full of shit. And it won’t matter, cause you definitely have the weight in you.
[quote]LittleStrick wrote:
Joe, you’ve definitely got the 260.
I have watched the video, at least, 6 times and something about your arch doesn’t “look” quite right. I may be hallucinating, of course, and I can’t put my finger on it. TO ME (take this with a grain of salt, as I can’t get my own shit straight), it looks like you lose some of your arch, when you unrack it. And that you try to reestablish it just as you start to lower the weight. But I may be misreading what I am seeing.
If you set the arch high and fill your lungs, right before liftoff, locking your arch hard with your legs, so that you are high on your shoulders/traps. I have to consciously think about doing that on every heavy set that I do. Of course, it would help if the fucktards trying to spot you would actually carry most of the load at liftoff, so that lifting it doesn’t alter your arch/shoulder position.
In any case, I could be full of shit. And it won’t matter, cause you definitely have the weight in you.[/quote]
No Strick you are probably on to something. I’ve never felt tight like other people describe and I’ve never really felt the after effects of bench in my chest, only in my arms.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
I’m trying, I just seem to be unaturally bad at powerlifting.[/quote]
Horeshit. Utter horsehit. Not being as effective as you WANT to be is very different form not being any good at something. You’ve gotten really strong in a real hurry, and I can say that with confidence because for a while there I was chasing you and now you’ve just blown so far past I’m not even going to bother.
Just spare me all the self-defeatist crap, it doesn’t suit you.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Ahh Joe. You sound like me. I have all this information to share but kinda-sorta really suck at the sport myself. It’s only because of perseverance that I’m around at all. [/quote]
Again, utter horseshit. What is it with the two of you? Okay maybe you’re not at the top of the mountain yet, but can’t you at least enjoy the view from the massive height you’re already at?
Depth was not good but I’ll get it worked down. Felt strong on 275 and 300 and then all my knuckleheads went berserk when three vry attractive russian post docs came in to lift and my concentration was blown to shit.
so I really don’t care about you squat videos, where are the vid’s of the three russian hotties? come on man, help me out here… the ones that blew you(r concentration)
[quote]PeteS wrote:
so I really don’t care about you squat videos, where are the vid’s of the three russian hotties? come on man, help me out here… [/quote]
If I could have gotten videos without the police coming I would have had them. Damn University rules.
