@highpull I hadn’t seen that post yet. Awesome post.
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I don’t think I understand the image.
Pissing in the wind?
That was my guess, but IDK if he is saying that is me?
Not directed at you personally. Close.
Posts = peeing
Forum = ocean
Ergo: Peeing in the ocean:
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/SyedQadri.shtml
https://www.sidmartinbio.org/what-is-a-normal-male-urine-stream/
Ages 14 to 45 — The average flow rate for males is 21 mL/sec.
That seems really low. When I tested mine, I filled 500 mL in 14 seconds, or almost 36 mL/sec. I guess we are all different.
You seem to consistently neglect your man beast status in comparison to gen pop.
I’m not looking up the distribution on the flow rate for males aged 14-45. 
Way to go on the self testing.
Your posting style seems familiar. Like someone else that used to post here a Lot.
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I just made all that up haha.
I can’t believe you actually looked up urine flow rates though.
I actually think I maybe should do a test though, as my initial thought was that seems like a lot. Fill up a 20 CC syringe every second. Reading the article, raises some concerns. I often have to push a bit to start.
What the hell, here you go:
https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1464-410X.1989.tb05518.x
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Makes sense to me. The more volume (having to pee really bad), the higher the rate of flow. Just hard to picture someone peeing 40 mL/sec (I am setting myself up for some sort of porn comment haha).
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Appreciate that response. Makes sense. I’ll continue on this dose and keep a close eye on the labs.
I can always back off a bit if needed.
To clarify, that would be historical artifact of 200 mg every two weeks. Not 200 mg every week.
100 mg/week equivalent has consistently be circulated in the urology/endocrinology circle for many, many years.
Did the OP confirm this? Obviously big difference with 1000 ng/dl injecting once per week vs twice a week in terms of Cavg over the AUC.
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Yes, he said twice a week, and the blood work was pulled one day after injection.
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Just wanted to add that it seems of more recent years the canned protocol IS more like 200mg/wk with a little AI thrown in. Don’t ask me why! Plain stupid. Solo test is a fine option if you don’t overdo it from the starting line.
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Just called my doctor and had everything uploaded to myquest. the highest test I had was right below 1000. The last Lab I had done was on 3/9/22. That Lab was the morning before I was to pin. Wednesday. It was 548. I do feel a bit better. I’m not as high as I thought and 200mg a week may be a good dose after all since my labs were all on point. HCT was 50 and has bounced between 45-50. Hec is 17.
Thanks I see the posts were coming in hot and heavy and I missed that one. He should also do a proper trough to see if trough higher than his reading 1 day after injection. He may be missing a good view of what his levels actually are if he is testing before tmax.
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Great clarification. There are two camps the reader needs to understand.
- There’s the traditional in-network (your insurance taking PCP equivalent) providers dishing out historically 200 mg / 2 weeks or 100 mg/week (starting dose to be titrated on bloodwork)
and
- then there the other “anti-aging” camp somewhat routinely dishing out 200 mg/week starting dosing (LMAO!) with an AI. The latter typically don’t take insurance and are cash pay (many of them). We’ll know in 10-20 years how that turns out.
To @mnben87 's point, it’s up to the patient to look out for their health when utilizing the services of either camp. That means understanding AUC and what your serum levels of TT, fT, SHBG, blah blah are as function of dose/dosing frequency. Then the patient can decide what’s the proper balance of risk/reward they want.
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