20 Years Old, 5'8", 155 lbs. First Cycle Advice?

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Hello everyone, this is gonna be my first cycle, and I just wanted to lay out what I plan on doing to make sure I’m not gonna do anything really stupid.

I have 5 vials of 250mg/mL - 10 mL vials of Test E along with 2 grams of Anavar, 2 grams of Tbol, and 2.5 grams of Winstrol. I’m not exactly sure when/which of the orals I should use. Currently, I was planning on 300 mg of Test E3D (maybe bump up to 500mg if everything goes well) and 30 mg of Anavar/30 mg of Tbol ED.

I’m currently 20, 5’8" at 155 pounds. I recently lost a lot of weight (down from 220) in about seven months in a fairly unhealthy way by not eating, and lost a lot of muscle at the same time.

I got my blood work done last week and lipids/liver were fine. Blood pressure is pretty good, normal is 110/70ish, sometimes a bit lower. I generally do 2-3 hours of cardio a day (30-35 miles of biking a day almost everyday and sometimes use the elliptical).

I plan on using 250 UI of HCG EOD during the cycle and starting with .5 mg of Arimidex E3.5D. I have Nolvadex for PCT.

I’d like to be done with PCT by early January because I have a trip to Europe then and don’t want to take the drugs with me.

I bought a lot of supplements I plan to use during the cycle, and will keep using some after the cycle. They are listed below.

Biotin 5000mcg ED

Fish Oil 1000mg ED

Non-flush Niacin 500mg ED

CoQ10 200mg ED

Vitamin D ED

Zinc 50mg ED

TUDCA 250mg Twice a Day

Milk Thistle 1000mg ED

Generic Walgreens Liver Health Mix Twice a Day (has a ton of stuff in it)

Most of these are for either heart, liver, or trying to somewhat help my lipids. I was wondering if I should change any of these values, particularly whether I should bump up the fish oil or niacin to help with lipids.

Ultimate goal is to slightly drop BF percentage while trying to put on fairly significant weight, open to any suggestions on any part and please tell me if I am doing anything wrong.

Thanks!

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You dont need a cycle, you need some good 2-3 years with a correct strenght training and good food. Then come back :slight_smile:

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You’re way too young and severly under trained to start a cycle. It’s not even debatable. Good job on the weight loss. That’s an accomplishment and you should start building off of that. Fortunately that doesn’t require steroids. Learn to eat and lift properly and the results will be outstanding. Seriously. You’ll be amazed what you can do naturally at your age.

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You should very proud of yourself to have the discipline to shed that worthless fat. And now you want to take the next step… Put on some serious muscle.

But the next step is to develop a weight training program with sufficient nutrients and rest to put on as much muscle as you can naturally (NO STEROIDS). If you want to put AAS’s to their best use, where you get the most muscle for the least risk, build a solid strength level naturally.

This will not happen in a matter of months. Like Hank said, three years under your belt would be the soonest you should venture into the pharma world. And I’ll add to that, you should have obtained a very respectable level of strength.

I didn’t even start lifting weights until I could do 20 pullups and 20 dips.
If you can’t do 20 pullups, you shouldn’t consider AAS’s.
For AAS’s IMO, you need to be capable of:

  • Squat 3 reps with 2 times your body weight.
  • Deadlift 3 reps with 2 times your body weight
  • Bench Press 3 reps with 1.5 times your body weight.

The decision to use AAS’s should always be done knowing the risk/reward.

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I’m gonna be honest, I’m gonna take them even though I know its not advisable. I just want to do it in a rather safe manner, so is what I have laid out pretty good practice from a damage control perspective for health?

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Why?

And why bother asking for “first cycle advice” when you’re going to disregard any advice you don’t want to hear?

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I mean I did ask for advice about doing my first cycle, not whether I should or not. I’m more just asking for harm reduction advice.

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And you got advice on both of these. You just didn’t like what you heard.

“Hey guys, I’m gonna drive into brick wall. Any advice? I know you’re saying I shouldn’t, but I’m gonna, so how fast should I go? Seatbelt on or off?”

Again, why proceed with a cycle when it’s a blatantly bad idea?

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First Cycle Advice? — DON’T

steroids are gasoline. If you are not already on fire (years of proper training and nutrition) all you get are side effects, and damage to your health. Nothing you are hoping for will happen. No explosion.

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I like this analogy

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You’re going to look back on this one day and realize you’re being stupid and childish. Everybody gave you advice which you proceeded to ignore. Your test levels are near the highest they will ever be and you are so small and inexperienced, a cycle would be a waste for you.

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Save your money, hire a coach, buy food, get big. Too young, too small, nail the training and nutrition and when you do add the gear a little will go a long way and you’ll have longevity in the sport allowing for more time to accrue muscle tissue. Not the answer you want but it’s the overwhelming response you should listen to.

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its less that its not advisable… its more of a - you are a tiny little prick who doesnt know shit about eating some food and lifting some weights and thats why no one respects you enough to give you “advice”…

Steroids multiply what you have and what you do. If you have good genetics and you have solid training and diet, they will double that and you will achieve good results. If you have good training and good diet but your genetics suck and you have, lets say - shit legs, you will just get more of what you have thats good, and a tiny bit more of the shit legs, but it wont change your genetics…

With your stats, what you are gonna get is 10lbs of water gain in a month. Bloat in muscles, a bit of moonface if you eat enough. Maybe some pimples, maybe a bit of a gyno. Then you will quit em, you will piss out the bloat in 3 days, you will be right back to where you started and now your pee pee wont work and then we will have one more of already 1000 topics of “i only did 1 cycle 7 years ago but my dick hasnt worked ever since” and/or something about needing a surgery for bitch tits.

You act like a stupid fucking kid who asks his dad for money for cigarettes because you hope that he will give you money for some good ones cuz he doesnt want you to smoke the shit ones… No one here is your dad, so no one gives a shit.

Out of the respect to everyone here who actually works hard, no one will give you any advice on steroids. The advice you got is worth GOLD… I wish id had that advice when i was 17 and started to think about steroids.

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