Just looking into the dark side once again, I haven’t been on here a while but been lurking every once in a while. Looking to make some gains on a couple of two weekers. Wanting to combine Tren, Winny/ Var and Dbol. Take a look.
Day 1-14: Tren Ace 100mg/d
Day 1-14: Winstrol 100mg/d or 100mg Var
Day 1-14: Dbol 50mg/d
Day 2-16: 300iu hCG eod
Day 1-20: 50mg Clomid/d
My main aim here is to prevent shutdown or recover from it as fast as possible.
What do you guys think?
Doses are solid enough for a good shorty. No issues with any of it. Maybe add a pinch of adex. Shutdown will occur…but to what degree? I dunno but running your ancillaries throughout and keeping to two weeks should help. Check out the old 3 on 1 off, 2 on 4off (I think) articles here for ideas on what to run during off weeks, that and bbb’s ideas about t3 for shorties.
Thanks for chipping in Juice. The 3on/1off and 4on/4off are less appealing to me as I feel they may prolong my shutdown. I just want to be in and out as quickly as possible and be back up and running then I will think about the next 2 weeker.
In regards to BBB’s post, I cant seem to locate it.
I meant refer to 3 on 1 off more to see how he has compounds used in that single off week…it might be something you could hijack/alter for your off weeks between shorties. As long as you use non supressive supps. Pretty sure bbb mentioned he believed t3 as beneficial for shorties.
From reading the different 2 week threads on here (and focusing on the ones from Bill Roberts), the typical advice is to do the last injection on day 12 and continue orals through 14, that way levels have dropped enough by day 15 to start your PCT.
Just looked again and you are planning on clomid straight through. So disregard my post about stopping on day 12. I’ll let someone with more experience/knowledge comment.
I’m currently on PCT after a 2 weeker of Tren Ace/Test Prop/Mast Prop 50mg each ED. Peak gain was 10 pounds, I’m now on day 18 - 6 days after last injection and on day 3 of 40mg Nolva. Down 3 pounds so far, waiting to see how much I keep total. Next one will start in January, debating between another 2 weeker or going for 3. Also going to add in Winny and possibly TBol at 60mg ea/day.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
I meant refer to 3 on 1 off more to see how he has compounds used in that single off week…it might be something you could hijack/alter for your off weeks between shorties. As long as you use non supressive supps. Pretty sure bbb mentioned he believed t3 as beneficial for shorties.[/quote]
well, T3 should be beneficial for pretty much any cycle as it accelerate protein synthesis, but better to apply here, as one would be apt to use it for a shorter time frame, thus risking less suppression on the thyroid.
[quote]boatguy wrote:
Just looked again and you are planning on clomid straight through. So disregard my post about stopping on day 12. I’ll let someone with more experience/knowledge comment.
I’m currently on PCT after a 2 weeker of Tren Ace/Test Prop/Mast Prop 50mg each ED. Peak gain was 10 pounds, I’m now on day 18 - 6 days after last injection and on day 3 of 40mg Nolva. Down 3 pounds so far, waiting to see how much I keep total. Next one will start in January, debating between another 2 weeker or going for 3. Also going to add in Winny and possibly TBol at 60mg ea/day.
Good luck.[/quote]
i always thought that Anadrol was recommended for short cycles as well… perhaps the increased RBC?
[quote]BUDs wrote:
Can’t get away from that tren huh sing?
Doses look pretty good. I know you have a hard time recovering from tren but maybe with the clomid throughout recovery will be quick[/quote]
Yep. I’m still considering this though, thinking do I really want to risk prolonged shutdown?
Currently sitting at roughly 178lbs with 11% bf so pretty decent build.
What are your honest opinions? In regards to running a cycle or not?