[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Truthfully, it sounds like an absolutely horrible idea to me.
My 2 cents[/quote]
Why? If this would work… [/quote]
Pretty big “if”. I don’t think it would work. I could be wrong, but for most people that would end up (as said above) in spinning your wheels. Have you found anyone, anywhere who has done this successfully? Perhaps you could google it and see if anyone agrees with you?
Why don’t you just eat clean and limit cals a little more on your bulk? If you feel you are getting “too soft” add in a HIIT session or go for some long walks?
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sure, i googled and searched and read all i found but it was pretty limited. most people ask and experiment with exactly what you are describing, which is a very slight calorie deficit all day every day. and i think that the body needs surplus calories to create the anabolic environment needed to make the body prioritize muscle growth, the question is of course when you create that environment during your bulk how long does it take to make it change to a catabolic environment( lower testosterone for example) and i think the answer is around 5-7 days based on stuff i have read around the nett, so my logic is keep the bulking going for longer than 7 days and keep the cut for no longer than 7 days so you dont give the body time to change into a catabolic envirement[/quote]
Hmm… this was the second hit when I googled: 2 Week Bulk 1 Week Cut Cycle Thoughts | Tiger Fitness - YouTube
You’ll notice in the video, the guy is 1) not from T-Nation 2) saying EXACTLY what most people on this site are saying.
I think that you may think this is a “new” idea. It’s not. I’ve probably seen 1-2 dozen of this exact thread over the years on this and other sites.
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
lol general attitude of T-Nation right there, either you agree with the norm or you fuck off [/quote]
Honest question: Why do you think you are part of the 1% and that your program will work despite not working for anyone else that you could find? Why wouldn’t you use a course that has demonstrated results?
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well because the bulk and cut thing doesn’t work too well with me, sure i gain muscle and strength pretty fast when i am bulking, but when i cut i lose fat slow and once i have been going at it for 2 month + i stall and soon after lose strength. When i lose enough strength i quit my cut usually because i am so ashamed about being so weak after training so long.
so i look for alternatives and if this would work it would be the holy grail for me, but fuck, i guess not. goal fowards is just disegard bodyfat and get stronger to the point where i will still be strong after i lose strength during my next cut. but still, i might try it out, if i do i’ll report back but no matter what i will keep bulking trough summer and get atleast 120 kg bench press before i do anything else[/quote]
My friend, you are 18. You’ve found this site. If you choose to learn and to put the work in, you WILL get strong/big/lean/whatever-YOU-want.
My suggestion: Start another thread on the beginners forum. List your stats and goals. Listen to the advice. People are “nicer” over there and it’s a much better place for a teenager.
Please don’t “disregard bodyfat.” That’s silly and no one here has advocated that. Instead, start tracking your meals. Use a diet from this site. Learn about how your body reacts. HAVE FUN!
Honestly, probably, you will need to learn about short and long-term goals. Learn about what works and what doesn’t. Don’t try to “invent” something. 99.9% of 18 year olds don’t invent anything; they just don’t know that it’s been tried yet.
So again, I’ll suggest starting a thread in the beginners forum. Fix your hub (it says you are 23, and I was working under that assumption). Be HONEST about your stats. Read their advice and follow it. Probably people will recommend you fix up your diet (WEDYEY?!?), get on a solid program (Waterbury’s TBT comes to mind), and make sure you are properly recovering. If you actually have these things down, write them out so people know and believe you. From their more specific advice can be given.
Best of luck. I wish I had found this site when I was 18.