[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, if you aren’t putting in enough effort in the gym, any extra food you eat will simply become extra body fat. Working much harder than average is what sets apart those who seem to “gain nothing but fat” and those who make others jaws drop by how much muscle they gained.
Your concern should be whether your weights used are going up along with your body weight.[/quote]
This was my point/concern with this kid^.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Also, if you aren’t putting in enough effort in the gym, any extra food you eat will simply become extra body fat. Working much harder than average is what sets apart those who seem to “gain nothing but fat” and those who make others jaws drop by how much muscle they gained.
Your concern should be whether your weights used are going up along with your body weight.
This was my point^.[/quote]
The only question I don’t have is whether my lifts are going up, I know for a fact they are. I was doing 8/6/4 for everything practically during my cut, and when I started bulking I switched to 10/8/6. Even after switching from 8/6/4 to 10/8/6, I’m still lifting more now for everything than I was during cutting, even after doing extra reps now.
Just not sure why the amount my lifts have increased doesn’t seem to be showing? Unless it’s just creatine strength which is probably a laugable concept.
[quote]shoobey wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Also, if you aren’t putting in enough effort in the gym, any extra food you eat will simply become extra body fat. Working much harder than average is what sets apart those who seem to “gain nothing but fat” and those who make others jaws drop by how much muscle they gained.
Your concern should be whether your weights used are going up along with your body weight.
This was my point^.
The only question I don’t have is whether my lifts are going up, I know for a fact they are. I was doing 8/6/4 for everything practically during my cut, and when I started bulking I switched to 10/8/6. Even after switching from 8/6/4 to 10/8/6, I’m still lifting more now for everything than I was during cutting, even after doing extra reps now.
Just not sure why the amount my lifts have increased doesn’t seem to be showing? Unless it’s just creatine strength which is probably a laugable concept.[/quote]
Dude, back away from the keyboard. Go to the gym this next time and keep lifting hard and keep eating to gain. You are worrying about nothing. I already TOLD you why people won’t notice small gains in lean body mass. Did you miss this?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
shoobey wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Also, if you aren’t putting in enough effort in the gym, any extra food you eat will simply become extra body fat. Working much harder than average is what sets apart those who seem to “gain nothing but fat” and those who make others jaws drop by how much muscle they gained.
Your concern should be whether your weights used are going up along with your body weight.
This was my point^.
The only question I don’t have is whether my lifts are going up, I know for a fact they are. I was doing 8/6/4 for everything practically during my cut, and when I started bulking I switched to 10/8/6. Even after switching from 8/6/4 to 10/8/6, I’m still lifting more now for everything than I was during cutting, even after doing extra reps now.
Just not sure why the amount my lifts have increased doesn’t seem to be showing? Unless it’s just creatine strength which is probably a laugable concept.
Dude, back away from the keyboard. Go to the gym this next time and keep lifting hard and keep eating to gain. You are worrying about nothing. I already TOLD you why people won’t notice small gains in lean body mass. Did you miss this?[/quote]
I agree, keep eating and make sure those calories are being put to use. Lift hard. What do your sessions look like out of curiousity?
shoobey, listen to the big guys on this site. I will repeat, listen to the big guys on this site!
Thanks to guys like Prof. X, Modok, Waylander (thanks guys), I’ve resisted the temptation to just diet down and just keep pushing the weight heavy and eating big. Guess what that got me? Going from a size L to a size XL shirt…now I need to fill out these new shirts my wife got me.
If you gained 20 lbs. and your lifts went up in 2 months, why would you want to stop or even slow down?
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
shoobey wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Also, if you aren’t putting in enough effort in the gym, any extra food you eat will simply become extra body fat. Working much harder than average is what sets apart those who seem to “gain nothing but fat” and those who make others jaws drop by how much muscle they gained.
Your concern should be whether your weights used are going up along with your body weight.
This was my point^.
The only question I don’t have is whether my lifts are going up, I know for a fact they are. I was doing 8/6/4 for everything practically during my cut, and when I started bulking I switched to 10/8/6. Even after switching from 8/6/4 to 10/8/6, I’m still lifting more now for everything than I was during cutting, even after doing extra reps now.
Just not sure why the amount my lifts have increased doesn’t seem to be showing? Unless it’s just creatine strength which is probably a laugable concept.
Dude, back away from the keyboard. Go to the gym this next time and keep lifting hard and keep eating to gain. You are worrying about nothing. I already TOLD you why people won’t notice small gains in lean body mass. Did you miss this?
I agree, keep eating and make sure those calories are being put to use. Lift hard. What do your sessions look like out of curiousity?[/quote]
Today is legs/shoulders/core
Squats (3 sets, 8/6/4)
Dumbell Shoulder press (10/8/6)
Stiff Leg Deadlifts (8/6/4)
Lateral Shoulder raises (10/8/6)
Weighted Incline crunches (3 sets of 15-20)
Weighted leg lifts/knee raises (alternating between 1 lift and 1 raise counts as 1, 3 sets of 15 of those)
you look pretty fat
probably should cut down again
I think you’ll look back on this thread in a year or two and say “What the fuck was I thinking?”
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
I think you’ll look back on this thread in a year or two and say “What the fuck was I thinking?”[/quote]
I made a post before I stopped cutting and Professor X and a lot of other very helpful members set me straight about giving up being lean for the time being to shoot for the end goal, being big AND lean, not just or the other. Believe me I have NO desire to start cutting or anything like that. I’m doing a very long term bulk so that the next time I cut, I can just get my bodyfat down as low as I’d like without worrying about looking like skelator.
Although I have cut pleanty of times and feel confident doing that, this is the first time I’ve done an actual/structered bulk. I’ve also never been lean before in my life and I have no idea hwo you are supposed to look from month to month when doing a bulk correctly, so I am just blindly doing this now with no reference points like I at least had in cutting from trial and error.
Since only one person here told me I looked like I put on pure fat and most other people are saying it looks ok so far, I’m just gonna keep doing what I’ve been doing I guess and check back in another few months. I also made this thread to see if I had to do any tweaking to my bulking diet. But seeing if I need to tweak my bulk diet a bit is not even close to the same as asking if I should stop bulking and switch to cutting because even I know that’s absurd at this point.
lol @ creatine bloat… I know what you mean! My mom actually called me the other day after visiting and told me and her and my dad were talking about how I got all big (when in actually I haven’t). I tried to explain bulking and they told me I was getting too big, and that I looked fine the way I was. I am nowhere near close to being big…
Anyways, best of luck to ya. Unfortunately for me, my face looked chubby even when I was skinny, and when I first started bulking it didn’t help. But after a while, by body somehow adapted to it and even though I was gaining weight on my body my face actually lost some fat amazingly. I think its just cleaner and lean muscle rather than just fat loss.
Keep up the work, you’re gettin there. Might want to work the shoulders a bit, but you have the definition already working out (so when you stop bulking and start cutting it won’t be as hard as for some others who have to cut more on their fat or define more).
[quote]salamando wrote:
lol @ creatine bloat… I know what you mean! My mom actually called me the other day after visiting and told me and her and my dad were talking about how I got all big (when in actually I haven’t). I tried to explain bulking and they told me I was getting too big, and that I looked fine the way I was. I am nowhere near close to being big…
Anyways, best of luck to ya. Unfortunately for me, my face looked chubby even when I was skinny, and when I first started bulking it didn’t help. But after a while, by body somehow adapted to it and even though I was gaining weight on my body my face actually lost some fat amazingly. I think its just cleaner and lean muscle rather than just fat loss.
Keep up the work, you’re gettin there. Might want to work the shoulders a bit, but you have the definition already working out (so when you stop bulking and start cutting it won’t be as hard as for some others who have to cut more on their fat or define more). [/quote]
I dunno why my shoulders don’t look bigger, shoulder’s are actually one of my best lifts. I shoulder press 75 x 6 @ 150 lbs bodyweight which I feel is ok for someone of my bodyweight, but I’m not sure why they look so small when I work them so hard?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
you look pretty fat
probably should cut down again[/quote]
Agreed. Your cycling your creatine right? That way you don’t get the creatine bloat and fake creatine strength.
You have your PCT lined up right?
What does your diet look like, how much protein are you eating?
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
you look pretty fat
probably should cut down again
Agreed. Your cycling your creatine right? That way you don’t get the creatine bloat and fake creatine strength.
You have your PCT lined up right? [/quote]
yep, got the clomid all set
[quote]Anabolic.O.D. wrote:
What does your diet look like, how much protein are you eating?[/quote]
I eat about 5x a day, lots of red meat, wheat, natural peanut butter, cottage cheese, ground turkey sometimes, brown rice, whole eggs, protein shakes. I don’t know the exact amount of protein I eat per day, but I have two protein shakes per day in addition to eating a lot of meat throughout the day, I’d say at least 300 or so
[quote]shoobey wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
you look pretty fat
probably should cut down again
Agreed. Your cycling your creatine right? That way you don’t get the creatine bloat and fake creatine strength.
You have your PCT lined up right?
yep, got the clomid all set[/quote]
clomid ewwww you know it makes your tongue grow hair, right?
You know what, good for you man.
Based on your first couple posts in other threads I totally thought you would over-analyze this shit and change your mind as soon as you saw any fat gain.
Although I still feel like you over-analyze this, I think it’s cool you are actually doing what you set out to do. Now just relax your mind and bust your ass and you’ll be fine.
Hi, good luck on your ongoing training.
Calves are part of legs too, train them.
I’d suggest removing/downgrading the amount of time you are specifically weight training abs at the moment and get in other primary exercises for your ass, quads, calves, shoulders etc etc etc.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
shoobey wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
you look pretty fat
probably should cut down again
Agreed. Your cycling your creatine right? That way you don’t get the creatine bloat and fake creatine strength.
You have your PCT lined up right?
yep, got the clomid all set
clomid ewwww you know it makes your tongue grow hair, right?[/quote]
Ya seriously, don’t use that shit clomid.
It was a trick question!
The best PCT is NO PCT! Force your balls into submission and make them secrete testosterone with might!
In my opinion, keep it up. As the owner of our gym says: “kid, here in bodybuilding we don’t measure time and progress in weeks, rather we use years as unit”.
From my experience, the real growth will only occur once you faded your abs-veins completely. I don’t know if its hormonal thing or something like that, but I’d say if you want mass, you have to go above “10percent”.
Or at least for me… Not to mention several dudes among my friends… Keep up the clean bulk.