Hi all,
just pop out a quick question. If my 2 board press is slightly more or even the same as my bench press, does it mean that height is just my stick point? shall I just substitute board press instead of bench press? what other assistance exercise can i do?
thanks
Do you have a video of you performing a near max Bench Press. Just because your 2 board is the same doesn’t mean your sticking point is some where else.
[quote]Reed wrote:
Do you have a video of you performing a near max Bench Press. Just because your 2 board is the same doesn’t mean your sticking point is some where else.[/quote]
i will try to upload a vid, but it may take a couple days
anyway, thanks
Are you a geared lifter? Or do you bench press raw?
[quote]csulli wrote:
Are you a geared lifter? Or do you bench press raw?[/quote]
RAW…
[quote]death_ak wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Are you a geared lifter? Or do you bench press raw?[/quote]
RAW…[/quote]
Haha alright RAWDAWG!
In that case I would make the suggestion that you place much less focus on any board work. You don’t have to take it from me though; look at Josh Bryant, youngest dude to bench 600 raw (did it when he was 22) and has worked as a coach with some of the best benchers of all time such as Al Davis (670 raw), Vincent Dizenzo (600 raw in 3 weight classes), and Jeremy Hoornstra (661 raw @ 242, world record).
He expresses his qualified opinion that the name of the game for raw benching is all about speed off the chest. You use that strength from the bottom to blast your way through any sticking points. Hammering the triceps and doing a lot of things like board presses is not nearly as beneficial for us raw guys as it is for the shirt jockeys. You gotta have huge pec and shoulder strength.
If you really like board presses you don’t have to completely trash 'em, but I would make your main accessory movements things like paused bench press, incline bench, and dumbbell benching (flat and/or incline). You can experiment with things like deadbenches as well.
That would be my suggestion anyway 
don’t worry much about where your sticking point on bench is and just get strong enough from your chest to power through.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]death_ak wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Are you a geared lifter? Or do you bench press raw?[/quote]
RAW…[/quote]
Haha alright RAWDAWG!
In that case I would make the suggestion that you place much less focus on any board work. You don’t have to take it from me though; look at Josh Bryant, youngest dude to bench 600 raw (did it when he was 22) and has worked as a coach with some of the best benchers of all time such as Al Davis (670 raw), Vincent Dizenzo (600 raw in 3 weight classes), and Jeremy Hoornstra (661 raw @ 242, world record).
He expresses his qualified opinion that the name of the game for raw benching is all about speed off the chest. You use that strength from the bottom to blast your way through any sticking points. Hammering the triceps and doing a lot of things like board presses is not nearly as beneficial for us raw guys as it is for the shirt jockeys. You gotta have huge pec and shoulder strength.
If you really like board presses you don’t have to completely trash 'em, but I would make your main accessory movements things like paused bench press, incline bench, and dumbbell benching (flat and/or incline). You can experiment with things like deadbenches as well.
That would be my suggestion anyway don’t worry much about where your sticking point on bench is and just get strong enough from your chest to power through.[/quote]
very good advices
i have been pondering that since i felt i am lacking pec and shoulder strength. I am currently running 5/3/1 BBB, doing bench and overhead. so shall i change the program setup for bench?
[quote]death_ak wrote:
I am currently running 5/3/1 BBB, doing bench and overhead. so shall i change the program setup for bench? [/quote]
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking here, but if you’re running 5/3/1 I don’t think you need to make any major changes. BBB works for lots of people.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]death_ak wrote:
I am currently running 5/3/1 BBB, doing bench and overhead. so shall i change the program setup for bench? [/quote]
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking here, but if you’re running 5/3/1 I don’t think you need to make any major changes. BBB works for lots of people.[/quote]
i mean should i do db bench instead of barbell for bench assistance exercise?
[quote]death_ak wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]death_ak wrote:
I am currently running 5/3/1 BBB, doing bench and overhead. so shall i change the program setup for bench? [/quote]
I’m not 100% sure what you’re asking here, but if you’re running 5/3/1 I don’t think you need to make any major changes. BBB works for lots of people.[/quote]
i mean should i do db bench instead of barbell for bench assistance exercise?[/quote]
I do both.
After your 5/3/1 set do 90% of whatever your top weight was and do 3x3 all paused reps…paused bench on benching days, paused incline on OHP days
[quote]death_ak wrote:
Hi all,
just pop out a quick question. If my 2 board press is slightly more or even the same as my bench press, does it mean that height is just my stick point? shall I just substitute board press instead of bench press? what other assistance exercise can i do?
thanks[/quote]
I’ve been a raw zealot and a gear whore. I found that my 2 board / yoga block foam press- aka manpon, was within 5-10# of my ‘off the chest’ bench. When I was raw this ROM helped my shoulders not feel as beat up all the time. I had a torn rotator, labrum and a nearly torn bicep tendon at the time. Now It’s repaired but the foam press still helps to not make the shoulder feel like total ass.
When I was a gear whore, the board press only made touching the last 3" more difficult, since I had gotten used to that groove. So I simply did more regular benches to fix that problem.
To answer your question, probably not. Your ‘sticking point’ is where you fail at. It could be a technique issue, it probably means that you simply aren’t strong enough yet to lift that weight. Don’t get wrapped up in the minutia of ‘assistance work’ odds are you just need to focus on the bench and building the back. aka row, row, row…
Assistance work is for fine tuning… and I’d bet you need a shotgun approach. Just stick with the basics.
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]death_ak wrote:
Hi all,
just pop out a quick question. If my 2 board press is slightly more or even the same as my bench press, does it mean that height is just my stick point? shall I just substitute board press instead of bench press? what other assistance exercise can i do?
thanks[/quote]
I’ve been a raw zealot and a gear whore. I found that my 2 board / yoga block foam press- aka manpon, was within 5-10# of my ‘off the chest’ bench. When I was raw this ROM helped my shoulders not feel as beat up all the time. I had a torn rotator, labrum and a nearly torn bicep tendon at the time. Now It’s repaired but the foam press still helps to not make the shoulder feel like total ass.
When I was a gear whore, the board press only made touching the last 3" more difficult, since I had gotten used to that groove. So I simply did more regular benches to fix that problem.
To answer your question, probably not. Your ‘sticking point’ is where you fail at. It could be a technique issue, it probably means that you simply aren’t strong enough yet to lift that weight. Don’t get wrapped up in the minutia of ‘assistance work’ odds are you just need to focus on the bench and building the back. aka row, row, row…
Assistance work is for fine tuning… and I’d bet you need a shotgun approach. Just stick with the basics.[/quote]
true, i always feel i am not strong enough…
[quote]death_ak wrote:
[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]death_ak wrote:
Hi all,
just pop out a quick question. If my 2 board press is slightly more or even the same as my bench press, does it mean that height is just my stick point? shall I just substitute board press instead of bench press? what other assistance exercise can i do?
thanks[/quote]
I’ve been a raw zealot and a gear whore. I found that my 2 board / yoga block foam press- aka manpon, was within 5-10# of my ‘off the chest’ bench. When I was raw this ROM helped my shoulders not feel as beat up all the time. I had a torn rotator, labrum and a nearly torn bicep tendon at the time. Now It’s repaired but the foam press still helps to not make the shoulder feel like total ass.
When I was a gear whore, the board press only made touching the last 3" more difficult, since I had gotten used to that groove. So I simply did more regular benches to fix that problem.
To answer your question, probably not. Your ‘sticking point’ is where you fail at. It could be a technique issue, it probably means that you simply aren’t strong enough yet to lift that weight. Don’t get wrapped up in the minutia of ‘assistance work’ odds are you just need to focus on the bench and building the back. aka row, row, row…
Assistance work is for fine tuning… and I’d bet you need a shotgun approach. Just stick with the basics.[/quote]
true, i always feel i am not strong enough…[/quote]
That’s a good thing. The day you think your strong “enough” is the day you need to pack up your vagina and get out of the way.