I’d put that under mild use, but I guess it depends on what the other 100-300 mgs of anabolics is.
I kinda disagree on the 95% of the results, but will say, I think most could achieve a physique much better than average with that approach if training and diet are good, and one is willing to be consistent for years of training.
Yes. Drugs in his time were different. Probably clean and much more potent…for this day and age its mild.
Dont know about this but i would say that people can gain almost everything they could, without going into retarded risks.
I dont really see the big whoop. At least on 300-400mg a week total of anabolics, 2ius of GH and 10ius of slin just lets me progress and not double the amount of aas.
I am trying to see things differently these days. I am big out in the real world. Mild / moderate use can get me to a good spot, but then I revert to wanting to look like Chris Bumstead or something.
I really want to believe this. I think there is some truth to it. I also think the golden age guys were on more than claimed in many cases.
Being able to use half the AAS is pretty good. A lot more expensive though. I’ve heard that GH being dosed incrementally with AAS makes a lot of sense. For example each 250 mg of Test you add, you add 2iu of GH. So 500 mg test and 4 iu of HGH, or 750 mg test and 6 iu of HGH. Any thoughts on that?
Or back then it was much less popular so less people with shit genetics continued to to that, so at the end all we see are the good ones.
And then - the doses are correct. @RT_Nomad might be Chris Bumstead of that time, and if Bumstead would say he uses less than i do, i would believe that. I also believe what Priest says he has used. I believe that Bumsteads of this world get a lot more out of training and supplements and drugs.
As far as i understand GH, there are 2 aspects that we want from it.
1)GH aspect of it. Anti aging stuff, longevity, fat burning. This we can see when we test Somatotrophic Hormone.
2)The IGF-1 aspect of it. This is your muscle size.
My Somatotrophic Hormone skyrockets and stays up pretty nice and long. Muuch better than my natural levels.
My IGF however, does double. But keep in mind my natural is 70… So my DOUBLE is 140. Out of 370. So - its nothing.
It doubles MY potential but since my potential is 6% of Chris Bumstead, i get like 12% total. Chris has 100% potential and out of 2ius his IGF doubles, he gets 200% and his natural was 300, so now his IGF is 600 and voula - there you go.
As for me - adding 2ius doubles my shitty IGF. Adding 2ius more, DOES NOT turn that measely 140 into 210… it turns it into like 180 max.
At least for me - there is no point.
Best combo of AAS, GH and Slin might double or tripple your potential. But if your potential is 3-5% then tripple that you get 15% at best.
When someone like Big Ramy who has potential of 150% tripples his shit, we have a massmonster. And then he BLASTS a LOT on top and that is why my legs are smaller than his arms.
The less % you have at the beginning, the less you get when you double or tripple it.
I have a girl client whos natural IGF is 50% higher than mine on GH, MK and Slin.
I don’t know how honest people were about what and how much they were taking. I had a reasonable idea from 1978 thru 1982 at the gym I attended, because almost everyone got their AAS’s from the gym owner. (That is a story in itself) Most that I knew were taking a testosterone and at least one anabolic. One guy whose wife he didn’t want to know he was taking any AAS’s, took any entire 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml every Saturday morning before squats (5cc’s in each cheek). That is the most taken by someone I knew personally.
Before testosterone was widely used, we had heard that Doug Beaver was taking 80mg/day of Dianabol. (I have no idea if there was any truth in that.) That seemed like a load of steroids when I heard it, as I was only up to 15mg/day at that time.
A lotta truth there. The peer pressure on those who got little muscle evidence that they were on AAS’s was pretty severe. Almost everyone got their steroids from the gym owner, and it got around the gym, because about every purchase was negotiated with another gym member present. And it was very easy to get them from the gym owner. We called those genetically challenged people “sinks”, as in, you might as well have just washed the steroids down the sink. The gym was well known as the Hercules gym.
Yes, this proves exactly what i said. There were people like that back then, but they were “pushed” out a bit, so we get that feeling that in 70s and 80s EVERYONE got results.
No, only the good ones continued to do that so we get that feeling. Nowdays everyone has a gym membership.
And we also dont call people “sinks”. We say - they just need to work harder, and they can achieve everything they want, lol.
Actually - this is a good one. I should have picked a username - Hank the Sink.
I will definetly use this from now on. What is very cool is that calling someone a sink, sounds much funnier and better in my native language also, haha.