1g of Protein Per Pound of Bodyweight...

[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]OklahomaHoss wrote:

Hell, I’ve actually been referred to as (and this is no joke) “the dumbest member of all time” because I workout a little differently than anyone else, and defended that fact.
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Are you referring to me? I wrote heavy duty sounds like the worst training method of all time, but I never wrote you were the dumbest member of all time. Unless someone else in that thread wrote that, but I don’t recall that.

OK Hoss, I’m going to give it to you straight (as by now you should realize I usually do). I think you have a lot more weight to lose than you think. If you were truly in the 20% range of body fat, you would be a pretty ripped 330 pounds after weight loss and you’d belong on stage somewhere dwarfing Johnnie Jackson.

I understand you don’t want to log on to T-Nation and be treated as a complete fat ass or whatever, but you won’t be able to get the fat loss advice you NEED unless people are more familiar with your particular situation.[/quote]

That was me, and I still stand by it.

Look, I really don’t know what to make of this guy. He says he’s the strongest on his block, “330 and not too fat” and been training for a long time.

Trying to make sense of this, I CANT. If what he’s saying is true, he could pass as a half decent powerlifter/strongman competitor, and as Lanky said, could dwarf J.O.J if he lost a bit of fat, cause as the OP insists on every fucking post, he doesnt have that much fat to lose.

OP, just post a picture for fucks sakes. If you want genuine help, everyone is more than willing to give you solid advice. Why are you so afraid everyone’s gonna make fun of you? Like I said, everyone on here can be assholes but only when responding to trolls.

So who cares if you’re fat? You gotta start somewhere right? If you’re living in denial, which I think is your number one issue, then you’ll more than likely to stay where you are. Snap out of it.[/quote]

Who gives a fuck? Apparently you do. You’ve already admitted to being the person who called me the dumbest forum member ever, just because I use a different workout than everyone else. Remember that? So you are ALREADY biased against me from the get go. No matter WHAT I’d happen to look like you’d go nuts with the insults. You’ve already proven yourself to be a dick. I dont need you to show me again.

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

Your “hard leg workout” consists of the following:

Your “hard leg workout” is a total of 3 work sets and you have said yourself that you only train once every 4 days or so. Your level of conditioning is likely far below what you think it is since the average trainee performs a higher volume of work in 3 workouts than you do in an entire MONTH.

If you are, by your own admission, very sedentary, then why in the hell are you trying to train using a system that essentially equates to going to the gym and being sedentary at the gym.

You keep talking about wanting to compete in Strongman and I think you are kidding yourself if you are going to do anything remotely like strongman while maintaining a next-to-nonexistent work capacity. Strongmen are among the best conditioned strength athletes in the world (up there with the high level olympic lifters who train literally for hours each day).

You are delusional. You are 400 lbs and deadlifting 225 lbs for 3 reps. You claim to have “a lot of muscle” and have enough experience to not need to listen to any advice besides that which is written in your copy of HD2 despite not knowing how much protein to eat on a daily basis or out deadlifting my 135 lb girlfriend. You want to compete in one of the most demanding sports in the world in terms of conditioning while maintaining a lifestyle that completely abhors creating or maintaining any sort of work capacity.

Here’s what you need to do. You need to unfuck everything about your approach to lifting and nutrition. You need to learn to control your eating and feed your body appropriately. You need to stop being a pussy and start actually working on building strength and work capacity rather than blindly following some obtuse system based largely on the writings of Ayn Rand, and you need to stop thinking you know everything when you clearly do not. Why don’t you show up to a strongman contest and TRY to make it through the first 2 events without your heart exploding. Strongman demands a well rounded athlete and you don’t become well rounded by being 400 lbs, sitting on your ass 5-6 out of 7 days of the week and going to the gym to do 3 work sets every 4th day.

There are numerous amateur strongmen keeping training logs on the internet and several on this site alone, check out their training to get an idea of the sort of thing you are going to need to be doing.[/quote]

Ah well. So much for getting away with having a different workout than everyone else. I should have seen the flames coming.

Here, let me save the rest of you some time and effort.

Think of the fattest, weakest individual you have ever seen. I mean even circus fat and aids weak.

I’m twice as fat and half as strong.

Its an amazing feat of will and courage for me to lift myself off the toilet every day and every day my fatness and weakness grow exponentially.

Five year old girls lift more than me and people on Jerry Springer who have to be crane lifted out of their beds so that they can be moved to a zoo to be worked on because a hospital isn’t big enough look at me and just shake their heads in disbelief that someone could let themselves go so horribly.

I am completely delusional asshat who has no brain and no training acumen whatsoever. I’ll never be able to understand what you Stephen Hawkings seem to be able to spout at will.

I should die. Yea, I should shoot myself in the head with that gun over there on the nightstand next to my industrial sized especially-made-for-fat-asses hospital bed. If I could just somehow, roll…myself…over…to the edge of the…bed…

Oh fuck it. It’s too much work. Guess I’ll just stay here and drink my syrup and cry onto my enormous man-tits about how horribly pathetic I am.

I’m so lonely and unlikeable. Maybe a dog’ll come by and piss on me. At least then I’d be useful for something…

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
If you want honest advice, be honest about yourself.

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I’m sorry. I forgot to address your post. I am also a compulsive liar (but a poor one, apparently).

Please disregard everything I’ve ever said, as it has all been false.

Really.

Everything.

You wanted a Pic? Here’s a vid. I just shot it with my cell from the bathroom at work.

Flame on!

That wasn’t so hard was it?

Although, you could’ve posted a better pic/vid, it’s a start.

From the looks of it, you’re not as fat as I thought. Shit, I’ve seen amazing transformations from people with the same body type.

But, I really think you have to drop the Heavy Duty shit man. Read what StrongHold wrote. If you said you live a sedentary lifestyle then training with 4 or whatever days in between and not even really training hard(from the leg workout example), you’re not gonna make much progress if at all.

IDK about the V-Diet, but there’s plenty of advice given already in this thread. I know you think I’m a dick, but I seriously want you to see that people on here are giving you solid, useful advice that you don’t seem to comprehend or totally disregard for whatever reason.

Maybe it’s a case of just asking for advice that you wanna hear. I think Prof X said that, and it really is too bad because this site has plenty of useful shit from members and authors alike, and you’re not taking advantage of it.

Either way, I say good luck bud.

[quote]OklahomaHoss wrote:
You wanted a Pic? Here’s a vid. I just shot it with my cell from the bathroom at work.

Flame on!

Flame what? You’re a big dude who is carrying quite a bit of fat. I have carried more fat too, but not that much. I agree with quitting the “heavy duty” (or whatever) that has you doing so little for legs. You simply do not train like someone who wants to look drastically different in a year.

Why would you think you would be flamed for finally posting a picture of yourself? The whole fucking goal was to help you out so why make it so damn difficult?

[quote]OklahomaHoss wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

Your “hard leg workout” consists of the following:

Your “hard leg workout” is a total of 3 work sets and you have said yourself that you only train once every 4 days or so. Your level of conditioning is likely far below what you think it is since the average trainee performs a higher volume of work in 3 workouts than you do in an entire MONTH.

If you are, by your own admission, very sedentary, then why in the hell are you trying to train using a system that essentially equates to going to the gym and being sedentary at the gym.

You keep talking about wanting to compete in Strongman and I think you are kidding yourself if you are going to do anything remotely like strongman while maintaining a next-to-nonexistent work capacity. Strongmen are among the best conditioned strength athletes in the world (up there with the high level olympic lifters who train literally for hours each day).

You are delusional. You are 400 lbs and deadlifting 225 lbs for 3 reps. You claim to have “a lot of muscle” and have enough experience to not need to listen to any advice besides that which is written in your copy of HD2 despite not knowing how much protein to eat on a daily basis or out deadlifting my 135 lb girlfriend. You want to compete in one of the most demanding sports in the world in terms of conditioning while maintaining a lifestyle that completely abhors creating or maintaining any sort of work capacity.

Here’s what you need to do. You need to unfuck everything about your approach to lifting and nutrition. You need to learn to control your eating and feed your body appropriately. You need to stop being a pussy and start actually working on building strength and work capacity rather than blindly following some obtuse system based largely on the writings of Ayn Rand, and you need to stop thinking you know everything when you clearly do not. Why don’t you show up to a strongman contest and TRY to make it through the first 2 events without your heart exploding. Strongman demands a well rounded athlete and you don’t become well rounded by being 400 lbs, sitting on your ass 5-6 out of 7 days of the week and going to the gym to do 3 work sets every 4th day.

There are numerous amateur strongmen keeping training logs on the internet and several on this site alone, check out their training to get an idea of the sort of thing you are going to need to be doing.[/quote]

Ah well. So much for getting away with having a different workout than everyone else. I should have seen the flames coming.

Here, let me save the rest of you some time and effort.

Think of the fattest, weakest individual you have ever seen. I mean even circus fat and aids weak.

I’m twice as fat and half as strong.

Its an amazing feat of will and courage for me to lift myself off the toilet every day and every day my fatness and weakness grow exponentially.

Five year old girls lift more than me and people on Jerry Springer who have to be crane lifted out of their beds so that they can be moved to a zoo to be worked on because a hospital isn’t big enough look at me and just shake their heads in disbelief that someone could let themselves go so horribly.

I am completely delusional asshat who has no brain and no training acumen whatsoever. I’ll never be able to understand what you Stephen Hawkings seem to be able to spout at will.

I should die. Yea, I should shoot myself in the head with that gun over there on the nightstand next to my industrial sized especially-made-for-fat-asses hospital bed. If I could just somehow, roll…myself…over…to the edge of the…bed…

Oh fuck it. It’s too much work. Guess I’ll just stay here and drink my syrup and cry onto my enormous man-tits about how horribly pathetic I am.

I’m so lonely and unlikeable. Maybe a dog’ll come by and piss on me. At least then I’d be useful for something…

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Exactly the response I expected. You did this in another thread, you take any criticism as an assault on your character because you are completely incapable of being anything but ABSOLUTELY RIGHT all of the time.

No one ever questioned your social skills.
No one ever called you extremely morbidly obese.
No one ever suggested you were immobile.
No one ever said you were worthless.
No one ever called you stupid.

YOU came up with all of those things in your own mind in response to my criticism.

This isn’t about you having a different workout. This is about you asking questions and then ignoring the answers to those questions because you think you know more even though it’s quite obvious that you don’t.

Why don’t you go ask Brian Siders or Phister or Mutaffis or any of the big amateur or pro strongmen in the US what they think of your training methodology. I’m sure they will all be willing to talk to you and help you if you WANT help, but since you think you’ve got it all figured out, go do a competition and see how well you hold up.

From your video, you look about like I expected. You probably have well north of 100 lbs to lose in order to achieve any noticeable degree of leanness. Of course, I would imagine your body composition would improve dramatically simply by eating sensibly and training like an actual athlete should rather than some physiologically ignorant system Mike Mentzer dreamed up in the amphetamine haze he maintained after his bodybuilding career was long over. Three days of gym lifting and an intense, conditioning based events day on Saturdays would have you in far better shape than you are currently in by the end of the summer but would require you to do something that I am almost certain that you are incapable of: admitting that you were initially wrong and listening to someone else who, heaven forbid, might actually know more than you do and have been where you are wanting to go.

Jeez, the guy has asked a simple question, and it has gone way off topic.

[quote]rhythmically wrote:
Jeez, the guy has asked a simple question, and it has gone way off topic.[/quote]

It wasn’t just a simple question. This is a guy with no doubt up to or more than 100lbs to lose to get “relatively lean” who is training completely wrong to make that kind of transformation.

of course newbs don’t understand this. Of course newbs would be blind enough to ONLY focus on the question and not who is asking it.

That is why no one gives a shit about what newbs think.

Anyone else just seeing a white box instead of the vid?

Nevermind, I’m a retart.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rhythmically wrote:
Jeez, the guy has asked a simple question, and it has gone way off topic.[/quote]

It wasn’t just a simple question. This is a guy with no doubt up to or more than 100lbs to lose to get “relatively lean” who is training completely wrong to make that kind of transformation.

of course newbs don’t understand this. Of course newbs would be blind enough to ONLY focus on the question and not who is asking it.

That is why no one gives a shit about what newbs think.[/quote]

Newbs…ha, I see! Whilst i’m training in the gym and improving my knowledge of physiology and biochemistry on a daily basis. Your in your house posting 32 thousand posts online.

A fact of human interaction is, a simple question deserves a simple answer. Of course newbs to human interaction don’t understand this, often preferring to live vicariously through their computer, with no real world experience.

That is why no one gives a shit about what rude, life newbs think.

[quote]rhythmically wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rhythmically wrote:
Jeez, the guy has asked a simple question, and it has gone way off topic.[/quote]

It wasn’t just a simple question. This is a guy with no doubt up to or more than 100lbs to lose to get “relatively lean” who is training completely wrong to make that kind of transformation.

of course newbs don’t understand this. Of course newbs would be blind enough to ONLY focus on the question and not who is asking it.

That is why no one gives a shit about what newbs think.[/quote]

Newbs…ha, I see! Whilst i’m training in the gym and improving my knowledge of physiology and biochemistry on a daily basis. Your in your house posting 32 thousand posts online.

A fact of human interaction is, a simple question deserves a simple answer. Of course newbs to human interaction don’t understand this, often preferring to live vicariously through their computer, with no real world experience.

That is why no one gives a shit about what rude, life newbs think.

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I think the discussion of his boydweight and bodyfat arose from his assumption that a large proportion of his mass was muscle mass when determining the amount of protein he should be eating each day.

The rest of the discussion arose from his reactions to other people giving him advice, which he has proven to be completely incapable of taking or even hearing without getting offended.