I feel kind of weird looking at pictures of some guy in his underwear. I feel even stranger thinking “he’s got a great build”.
[quote]Rah-Knee wrote:
I feel kind of weird looking at pictures of some guy in his underwear. I feel even stranger thinking “he’s got a great build”.[/quote]
Actually, its quite normal on a site like this. Maybe those weird feelings are something else…
Is there something you need to share with us?
Very thick. Good work. You have the potential to do well in both powerlifting and bodybuilding…why not do both?
Just now saw this thread, but excellent work!
[quote]Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250[/quote]
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
[quote]BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia![/quote]
And also juiced to the gills!!!
[quote]8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
And also juiced to the gills!!!
[/quote]
And?
Honestly, this sort of “He (may have) taken steroids so anything that he has accomplished is completely illegit” dick waving mentality is bullshit.
If he were saying he was natural, that would be one thing, but he hasnt meantioned AAS at all. Who fucking cares, at 19 years old, that is impressive, gear or no.
[quote]8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
And also juiced to the gills!!!
[/quote]
What is your point?
Being juiced or not,East Europeans have always dominated in weightlifting…Bulgarians,Romanians,Greeks,Ukranians,…Relatively small countries with many champions.
Thats why I stand by my statement-East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
[quote]BALBO wrote:
8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
And also juiced to the gills!!!
What is your point?
Being juiced or not,East Europeans have always dominated in weightlifting…Bulgarians,Romanians,Greeks,Ukranians,…Relatively small countries with many champions.
Thats why I stand by my statement-East Europeans are brutally strong!!![/quote]
My point is that they are strong because they are juiced to the gills. What is so hard to understand about that? The bulgarians and the russians combined have been kicked out of competitions more thant the rest of the world combined in weightlifting! And the russians have been kicked out of the IPF(powerlifting)for a reason you know…
And 105 kgs at 19 isnt impressive if you have no knowledge of his AAS abuse.
You are clearly doing very well. I would suggest if you are interested in bb’g, that you begin doing more aerobics and stay with more natural supplements. I’ve been doin’ this for nearly 40 years, since 21. Generally, the lighter, leaner muscle, the healthier and longer lasting you will be. All the best.
If those numbers are without AAS I am very impressed, if they aren’t I am still impressed.
Awesome!
Post some back shots if possible.
[quote]8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
And also juiced to the gills!!!
What is your point?
Being juiced or not,East Europeans have always dominated in weightlifting…Bulgarians, Romanians, Greeks, Ukranians,…Relatively small countries with many champions.
Thats why I stand by my statement-East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
My point is that they are strong because they are juiced to the gills. What is so hard to understand about that? The bulgarians and the russians combined have been kicked out of competitions more thant the rest of the world combined in weightlifting! And the russians have been kicked out of the IPF(powerlifting)for a reason you know…
And 105 kgs at 19 isnt impressive if you have no knowledge of his AAS abuse.
[/quote]
Wait wait. Being 230 lbs at 5’9" with a low bodyfat at 19 isnt impressive because you are not sure if he has used gear or not because he is from Eastern Europe and a lot of athletes over there are on?
So being on gear makes someone less impressive. So I guess when you weighed 20 lbs less than this kid when you were 3 inches taller after 14 years of training and considered prohormones, you decided not to taint all of your hard work, right?
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
8 wrote:
BALBO wrote:
Yuris wrote:
I live in East Europe so it will be kg:
Bench - 190
Squat - 240
Lift - 250
Great numbers!
East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
Greetings from Croatia!
And also juiced to the gills!!!
What is your point?
Being juiced or not,East Europeans have always dominated in weightlifting…Bulgarians, Romanians, Greeks, Ukranians,…Relatively small countries with many champions.
Thats why I stand by my statement-East Europeans are brutally strong!!!
My point is that they are strong because they are juiced to the gills. What is so hard to understand about that? The bulgarians and the russians combined have been kicked out of competitions more thant the rest of the world combined in weightlifting! And the russians have been kicked out of the IPF(powerlifting)for a reason you know…
And 105 kgs at 19 isnt impressive if you have no knowledge of his AAS abuse.
Wait wait. Being 230 lbs at 5’9" with a low bodyfat at 19 isnt impressive because you are not sure if he has used gear or not because he is from Eastern Europe and a lot of athletes over there are on?
So being on gear makes someone less impressive. So I guess when you weighed 20 lbs less than this kid when you were 3 inches taller after 14 years of training and considered prohormones, you decided not to taint all of your hard work, right?[/quote]
First of all the guy is 5’11" and does not have low bodyfat. He has NORMAL bodyfat far a 19 year old who works out.
Second of all yes beeing on gear makes someone less impressive. Thats my personal opinion.
And what does my personal stats have to do with anything?
The facts is that steroids in Russia is as common as food in the BB, PL and weightlifting “industry”. I know this for a fact. If you think otherwise you are a bit naive.
I just rechecked my conversion calculator, we were both wrong. 180 cm is about 70 inches, or 5 foot 10. Big deal. The fact of the matter is that this kid has put in a shit load of hard work, gear or no, and is seeing the results. Gear does not make or break a bodybuilder. There are plenty of guys on gear who pussy around and look like shit. Hard work is hard work. I dont understand why you would be so ignorant as to completely write off someones accomplishments simply due to the possibility that they have used AAS.
In case you forget, prohormones are also steroids. What do your personal stats have to do with this? Well, you have accomplished less than this guy in more time and have expressed interest in prohormones in other posts. If you have used prohormones, then does that mean your accomplishments are even less impressive? Seeing as how after 14 years of training, you are only 210 at a height of 6 ft and you have had to resort to prosteroids to get to that, then yes.
Stop waving your jealous dick around and stop trying to piss on other peoples accomplishments.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
I just rechecked my conversion calculator, we were both wrong. 180 cm is about 70 inches, or 5 foot 10. Big deal. The fact of the matter is that this kid has put in a shit load of hard work, gear or no, and is seeing the results. Gear does not make or break a bodybuilder. There are plenty of guys on gear who pussy around and look like shit. Hard work is hard work. I dont understand why you would be so ignorant as to completely write off someones accomplishments simply due to the possibility that they have used AAS.
In case you forget, prohormones are also steroids. What do your personal stats have to do with this? Well, you have accomplished less than this guy in more time and have expressed interest in prohormones in other posts. If you have used prohormones, then does that mean your accomplishments are even less impressive? Seeing as how after 14 years of training, you are only 210 at a height of 6 ft and you have had to resort to prosteroids to get to that, then yes.
Stop waving your jealous dick around and stop trying to piss on other peoples accomplishments.[/quote]
ITs funny how you cant stop from keeping it personal.
But I still cant see what my stats have to do with anything. I cant post a comment if im not atleast as big as this guy? Is that it?
For the record, im not jealous I just dont think his physique is that impressive and im not writing his results of just because he has been using AAS. I was merely stating the fact that A LOT of eastern europeans are juiced since BALCO jumped to the conclusion that eastern europeans are strong mofos. They are strong because they do AAS. Take away the AAS and lets see how they do in international competition.
[quote]8 wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
I just rechecked my conversion calculator, we were both wrong. 180 cm is about 70 inches, or 5 foot 10. Big deal. The fact of the matter is that this kid has put in a shit load of hard work, gear or no, and is seeing the results. Gear does not make or break a bodybuilder. There are plenty of guys on gear who pussy around and look like shit. Hard work is hard work. I dont understand why you would be so ignorant as to completely write off someones accomplishments simply due to the possibility that they have used AAS.
In case you forget, prohormones are also steroids. What do your personal stats have to do with this? Well, you have accomplished less than this guy in more time and have expressed interest in prohormones in other posts. If you have used prohormones, then does that mean your accomplishments are even less impressive? Seeing as how after 14 years of training, you are only 210 at a height of 6 ft and you have had to resort to prosteroids to get to that, then yes.
Stop waving your jealous dick around and stop trying to piss on other peoples accomplishments.
ITs funny how you cant stop from keeping it personal.
But I still cant see what my stats have to do with anything. I cant post a comment if im not atleast as big as this guy? Is that it?
For the record, im not jealous I just dont think his physique is that impressive and im not writing his results of just because he has been using AAS. I was merely stating the fact that A LOT of eastern europeans are juiced since BALCO jumped to the conclusion that eastern europeans are strong mofos. They are strong because they do AAS. Take away the AAS and lets see how they do in international competition. [/quote]
Ah, steroids are not limited to Eastern Europe. People all around the world do steroids, yet they are generally bigger built guys in that part of Europe. From personal experience and what I have seen, males in general in East Europe still look like “men” should - compared to most countries around the world.
You’re not trying to say that they all do steroids, are you?
[quote]rsg wrote:
8 wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
I just rechecked my conversion calculator, we were both wrong. 180 cm is about 70 inches, or 5 foot 10. Big deal. The fact of the matter is that this kid has put in a shit load of hard work, gear or no, and is seeing the results. Gear does not make or break a bodybuilder. There are plenty of guys on gear who pussy around and look like shit. Hard work is hard work. I dont understand why you would be so ignorant as to completely write off someones accomplishments simply due to the possibility that they have used AAS.
In case you forget, prohormones are also steroids. What do your personal stats have to do with this? Well, you have accomplished less than this guy in more time and have expressed interest in prohormones in other posts. If you have used prohormones, then does that mean your accomplishments are even less impressive? Seeing as how after 14 years of training, you are only 210 at a height of 6 ft and you have had to resort to prosteroids to get to that, then yes.
Stop waving your jealous dick around and stop trying to piss on other peoples accomplishments.
ITs funny how you cant stop from keeping it personal.
But I still cant see what my stats have to do with anything. I cant post a comment if im not atleast as big as this guy? Is that it?
For the record, im not jealous I just dont think his physique is that impressive and im not writing his results of just because he has been using AAS. I was merely stating the fact that A LOT of eastern europeans are juiced since BALCO jumped to the conclusion that eastern europeans are strong mofos. They are strong because they do AAS. Take away the AAS and lets see how they do in international competition.
Ah, steroids are not limited to Eastern Europe. People all around the world do steroids, yet they are generally bigger built guys in that part of Europe. From personal experience and what I have seen, males in general in East Europe still look like “men” should - compared to most countries around the world.
You’re not trying to say that they all do steroids, are you?[/quote]
Men still look like men? If you would take a crosssection of eastern europeans you would find as many skinny and fat people as you would in the rest of the world.
And no. Im not trying to say they all do steroids. Im just stating the fact that eastern european Powerlifters, weightlifters and Bodybuilders do a LOT of AAS. They always have because its part of the culture. Thats how they have kept winning over the years.
East Europe or not, we have plenty of skinny ppl, but not so much fat ppl, thats because of the different diet from the West I think. And there is steroid abuse all around the world I think its even higher in USA than in Russia.
Ok to be honest i finishing my 3d cycle only… i can say I used steroids only the last half a year, from my 5 year more or less intense lifting. And really if i would tell how much i used it, the real lifters would laugh at me…
I will post some of my photos when i was 16 and 17… u will get the point then. the base build and proportions were very the same…
And what i did understand, and I think i am totally right with it is, that real bodybuilding or powerlifting or any heavy ass lifting sports are all with artificial enhancements, there is no way to get a competitive level without steroids nowadays…
And stop bullshiting natural or no. No one lives my own life except me. And it is only for me to decide weather to cross the line from being natural and healthy man who do sports, to the competitive level lifter…
[quote]Yuris wrote:
East Europe or not, we have plenty of skinny ppl, but not so much fat ppl, thats because of the different diet from the West I think. And there is steroid abuse all around the world I think its even higher in USA than in Russia.
Ok to be honest i finishing my 3d cycle only… i can say I used steroids only the last half a year, from my 5 year more or less intense lifting. And really if i would tell how much i used it, the real lifters would laugh at me…
I will post some of my photos when i was 16 and 17… u will get the point then. the base build and proportions were very the same…
And what i did understand, and I think i am totally right with it is, that real bodybuilding or powerlifting or any heavy ass lifting sports are all with artificial enhancements, there is no way to get a competitive level without steroids nowadays…
And stop bullshiting natural or no. No one lives my own life except me. And it is only for me to decide weather to cross the line from being natural and healthy man who do sports, to the competitive level lifter…[/quote]
Sorry about the douchebag man. Some people dont like it when others make more progress than they do.
8,
The implication made by your posts were as follows:
- The OP’s physique is not impressive
- The OP has done steroids, so he is even less impressive.
What do your personal stats have to do with this? You have been training for FOURTEEN YEARS and have also used gear, in equal or greater amounts than what Yuris says he has, and are SMALLER. Sounds like you had a head start, lost the race, and are blaming it on the other guys new shoes.