Agreed. Stallone didn’t maintain it all the time either and was on a heavy dose I assume.
Wouldn’t be suprised if used stanozolol, deca etc back in his day
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if he STILL uses trt dose test, a bit of deca and a hefty dose of HGH
I mean… what SEVENTY YEAR OLD man looks like this
Also…
If people think Pitt used AAS for fight club… seriously… no… probably not… anyone can get that look naturally, granted it’s NOT healthy to be that lean unless you’re like a teenager with an incredibly fast metabolism… I have a good friend, he’s 6’5, lean and athletic looking (probably weighs about 160)… but he’s like 5% BF, he has to eat a TON for the scale to budge but it seems 100% of what he puts on is just pure lean mass, he stays lean, with visible abs and significant vascularity year round… has striations everywhere… he isn’t big per se, but he’s SOOOOO lean… girls dig it (but he has a GF)… they also dig how tall he is… also has a good looking face, a perfect trifecta
Granted there are those who use gear, never look as if they’ve touched a weight
Appreciate it man. I really don’t believe I could have got much bigger naturally. I literally dedicated my life to the gym, eating well, and sleeping. I gave up the alcohol and party life stuff, I worked only part time, I am anal and extremely methodical with all the supplements I take and when I take them … and i finally just realized I wasn’t going to get much bigger.
To OP, resistance training is key though. Body weight stuff isn’t going to give you the look you want (at least what I think you want). Abs for example… mine were shit, until I started resistance training them with HEAVY weights.
@mnben87
Nice hair dude!
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What was you HCG protocol? And now? Are you off?
What age did you start training. Mostly bodybuilding? Any powerlifting, athletic training?
I played sports my entire life, up until 19 years old, however never weight lifted. I didn’t step foot into a gym until 23/24 (little under 140lbs). Spent basically 6 years doing nothing but trying to get big. Never did any power lifting though. Then ended up giving AAS a try.
I always wish I had started lifting earlier!
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thanks for help , ill be eating on a surplus and training smart for the next 4 months 165 with abs is the goal
Started at 250 twice a week. Bumped up to 500 twice a week and have stayed there. So I raised the HCG at the same time that I lowered my trt dose. I wanted to make sure my e2 didn’t get too high and I needed to lower test anyway (HCT was too high even for me), so it worked out. I don’t notice any difference between 200 test, 500 hcg vs 120 test, 1,000 hcg as far as mood, fluid retention, bp, or anything else.
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Appreciate the complimentary tag,… uh,… long thread to go back through,… cliffs?
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- 140lb (tall) kid wants to use gear at age 18
- is convinced not too
- posts he wants to look aesthetic/shredded naturally
- guy tells him that’s not possible
- I explain it’s certainly possible to get aesthetic/big naturally if one is really willing to put in the work, so I use you and brickhead as examples (I assume you’re natty because you compete in a natural federation… you look very impressive in the photos Chris Colluci put up on one of the threads on here)
yea man anything is possible , i wont let these failures stop me lol i love putting in the fking work !!!
no offense to anyone , i just cant stand people with negative mindset. just because some lazy dude couldnt do it doesnt mean its impossible to look shredded
I don’t want to be a dick… but initially you were the one looking to run test/deca at 145 lbs…
Does that mean you’re lazy? No, but it does indicate that initially you either had the wrong mindset or underestimated the sheer risks involved regarding gear usage
Don’t judge others based on their individualistic decisions, we all make mistakes/harbour differing ideologies… and you were initially ready to make a big mistake whilst putting in very little research regarding you’re potential decision
You can get shredded and lean natty, what’s you’re height? You don’t even have to be big… at our age girls will swoon over being lean with veins… if you’re six foot, 170lbs in single digit body fat will EASILY do the trick
For me (though I wouldn’t drop this much weight) 135 lbs at 5’5 at 6-8% body fat would be more than good enough if I was lifting with the sole intention of scoring with girls… though I’ve unfortuantely learnt that muscle mass doesn’t help that much… it helps the girl approach you, initiate… but if you can’t talk you won’t get anywhere (#experiencedwithgirlshittingonmeandmenotbeingabletotelluntilafterwardsand/ordontknownowtotalkbackbecauseigetuncomfortable)
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Nailed it. Girls your age just want lean with visible abs, and to be treated poorly. Sad, but true.
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But what about me? Does my beard and dick skin shreds mean nothing? Breaking my heart here.
SB
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You don’t want those 18-21 year old girls, I hope. I keep telling you though, your physique, and good job, you’d be absolutely drowning in the poon out here!
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Joke about it all you want… but it’s true, girls my age seem to fall for absolute shitheels, they can’t differentiate being confident/outgoing and being an asshole… then after a horrific breakup they’ll pine for them, keep trying to get back together despite the fact that the guy may have been emotionally abusive, cheated on her with like 4-5 different girls
Meanwhile there’s 4-5 perfectly nice boys lining up to take her out for a date… but nope… not good enough
I was far larger than I was prior to Europe/coming back. Having just gotten back into the gym regularly I should gain back said size within 2-3 weeks… but at that point some girls weren’t attracted to my look at all, I was getting steroid comments left right and centre by both boys and girls… Girls also tend to be put off by the sheer amount of hair I have on my stomach, chest, shoulders, arms, back, forearms, legs, calves, feet etc… I’ve gotten some really, really nasty comments… Older girls don’t seem to mind nearly as much
In the 70’s my father said my look was in style, pined after by both men and women, said I’m just born in the wrong generation (same can be said about my music taste)
Nope, I want younger (jokes)… The youngest I’d date is 17, two year rule… I’ve been told (by adults) to go after girls who are 16ish, that’s the age of consent here… But I think that’s profoundly unethical… and a little bit creepy
Granted at music festivals/house parties it’s very difficult to tell, some 16 y/o girls look far older than they are, some will even lie about their age (same goes with guys actually, esp if the event/gathering is 18+)… can go both ways, a girl accidentally hooks up with a much younger guy or vice versa. In Belgium I was told to look out for this, so I did… I swear some of the girls in the bars must’ve been about fourteen (they didn’t check ID for anyone)… it was profoundly disturbing to think of the potential implications/what could happen (not with me, but with other, unsuspecting males)
Should mention, the two year rule doesn’t count for older women… so long as they’re younger than 35 I’m good to go…
Can I give you a bit of advice? From a 32 year old man who is now genuinely happily married with kids…
Not to toot my own horn, but I dated a LOT of girls in my 18-25 year old years. Some long term, some short term. I was a nice guy, and I always knew it was a disadvantage. I did a bit of modeling back then and drove a nice car which helped my lack of being a douche.
Having said that, every girl under 25 that I dated was an emotional mess and unworthy/unable to have a meaningful relationship.
At age 27 I met a woman 10 years older than me. For the first time in my life I am genuinely happy in a relationship. There is zero drama. She appreciates how good of a man I am. We do not fight over petty dumb shit, and so not have a roller coaster relationship like every other relationship I had been in.
Find someone older than you, with a career, that has been torn down by douches, and appreciates a good man.
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