[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Here’s the deal, many of these guys will HAVE to look softer for a while to make progress like that. There is a reason so few of these guys who are more focused on how lean they are happen to be reaching this level of size in this amount of time.
had I posted a pic of the very first day I hit 18" arms, you would probably say the same shit about me. Hitting that size while being a little soft first and then growing into it basically has been my strategy from day one (I started at about 150lbs and yes, I fucked up quite a bit before I learned my own body’s limits).
It’s working for AustinB and it worked for me…even though it should be clear as day that he isn’t half assing it in the gym and neither did I.
This is not for people who just eat more and then go through the motions in the gym.
My arms are a hell of a lot bigger than 18" now and all of those people who told me I was carrying too much fat at times are WAY smaller.
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Prof X and AB…
in reference to that, do you think being fat as a kid is related to having to put on more weight to gain effectively? (i ‘believe’ being fat at one point in time makes it that much easier to put the fat back on due to more fat cells being created, then only depleted, but still there, when stored fat is used up… or so i’ve read)
i remember you (Prof X) mentioning people who were fatter as kids tend to have an easier time gaining than those who werent.
this past fall i managed to put on about 20 lbs (more fat than would have liked) and thought it was mainly due to this… thoughts?
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Your body is not likely to create new fat cells unless; you are going through puberty while gaining a ton of body fat, you are a child and obese, you gain an extreme amount of body fat (as in going from skinny to bed ridden) as an adult.
Your body doesn’t just create new fat cells simply because you gained weight at all.
I personally considered the theory when I was in junior high that the sarcoplasmic bag around muscle may be stretching in “stocky kids” allowing them to gain muscle easier. I thought this after noticing all of those “chunky” kids in 5th and 6th grade were the ones who turned into the football players and big guys in junior high and high school. Obviously I am not talking about couch ridden fuckers from today who never even go outside.
I do not have any studies showing this just my own observation in others and my own results.
The other factor to consider is that overall body weight DOES help in strength if for no other reason than leverage. I do not think it is far-fetched at all to conclude that people who avoid ever actually getting heavy enough for this to have an effect happen to also be some of the same people who never move big numbers in weight lifted.
It used to be a given that, much like football, you needed to bulk up t get big and strong. Only recently with the “must have it now” crowd do people seem to think they will look like a cover model all of the way through.
This may work for people who have lesser goals, but for the guys who really plan on standing out as far as size, it will likely not work so well unless your genetics for gaining and remaining lean are phenomenal.[/quote]
ahh ok i see what you’re saying. i did gain a lot of fat during puberty 15-16 then lost about 70 lbs from 16-17 along with muscle(didnt know how to cut)… oops. now i know for this time. really bulking up for an extended period of time does make a lot of sense. MODOK has gone into it before as well.
ok sorry AB hijack over… great job by the way