Awesome dude!
Good luck hitting 18. No doubt you can do it… : )
[quote]Professor X wrote:
On a site like this, I would expect for us to be able to fill an entire thread with people who have at least achieved that measurement, especially if they’ve been lifting for more than 5 years.
It sure is quiet.[/quote]
Whoa! Easy there big guy… ; )
17.25…
That’s still only like 6 people.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That’s still only like 6 people.
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Well, we’re still doing better than BBing . com, where the majority consists of teenagers who are essentially living on prohormone cycles to get up to a hyoooooooooooooge 15" -lol.
S
I’ll help you bring the number up in a few months if you keep this alive.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
BUMP
Austin_Bicep -
How’s your progress since June?
austin_bicep wrote:
finally hit 17 inch arms pumped, im pretty excited. not gloating but just am proud of myslef. 18 inches is the next milestone. best of luck to everyone with there goals.
I was reminded of this thread because I just joined this little club this week 
+2.75" Since April
Lots of arm work, lots of FOOD!
[photo]18384[/photo]
Not the best angle on the peak of the last tile-- my 7-year old took the shot. Better shot in my profile
I’ll see you at 18" sometime in '09 :)[/quote]
That’s really impressive. Can you tell us what you did in terms of diet and lifting to get there?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Are these the only guys with arms over 17" on this site?[/quote]
I think you underestimate how hard some people here train. True, the majority don’t train hard and most of the posters in RMP have nothing to show but how skinny they are, but still there are a good number of physiques on here. More then the <5% you think.
Of course I could be wrong. Its just that the amount of crap physiques you see heavily outnumber the good ones but I’m sure many of the dedicated lifters don’t bother posting pictures to begin with.
Anyway nice work on the arms people, 17 is definately a great size to achieve. I hit it recently myself, but I don’t think I can grow another 3 inches in 12 months again 
[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Are these the only guys with arms over 17" on this site?
I think you underestimate how hard some people here train. True, the majority don’t train hard and most of the posters in RMP have nothing to show but how skinny they are, but still there are a good number of physiques on here. More then the <5% you think.
Of course I could be wrong. Its just that the amount of crap physiques you see heavily outnumber the good ones but I’m sure many of the dedicated lifters don’t bother posting pictures to begin with.
Anyway nice work on the arms people, 17 is definately a great size to achieve. I hit it recently myself, but I don’t think I can grow another 3 inches in 12 months again :([/quote]
I’ll believe it when I see it. As it stands, this board seems filled with people who think Steeve Reeves was the epitome of physique development and that even trying to reach that is a lofty goal unless you are a professional competitor.
That last thread asking for people’s arm measurements was telling as well. Most who posted barely had arms bigger than 15". Mind you, these are the same people telling everyone else that split routines suck and that we should all be using TBT.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I was reminded of this thread because I just joined this little club this week
+2.75" Since April
Lots of arm work, lots of FOOD!
[photo]18384[/photo]
Not the best angle on the peak of the last tile-- my 7-year old took the shot. Better shot in my profile
I’ll see you at 18" sometime in '09 :)[/quote]
awesome. How much weight did you put on for the 2.75 inches?
That series of pictures is very motivating. I just got done with football (lost our playoff game yesterday), so i can finally get back to lifting. Hoping to put on at least 20lbs by May. My arms are small, but you give me hope.
That being said, is there any exercise that necessarily contributes to increasing your peak? Besides just adding bicep mass in general, that is? I have no peak at all, and want to work on increasing it if possible. I’m obviously going to try and add mass all over anyway, but my biceps are one of the most painfully obvious of my many weak points.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
That’s really impressive. Can you tell us what you did in terms of diet and lifting to get there?[/quote]
Thanks, GD. While I don’t think I approach ‘impressive’, I do think that anyone on this board can make the same gains if they seriously tried.
Every thing documented from the start up until this week. The only difference is for the past, oh 6 weeks or so, I’ve been gorging relentlessly on food (ie not the cleanest of bulk)-- I think it’s a growth spurt after a plateau. Having said that, I’m still in the same jeans as the start although they have tightened up a bit-- I’ll take it. The tighter sleeves is worth it.
Incidentally, there are some big dudes in “Over 35”. A lot of the folks don’t stray from that forum because of the trollish dickery that goes on just about everywhere else. There’s some big dudes in there (Heavythrower, Q.Tonner, etc) moving some good weights aroun. Very impressive and very inspirational. Kudos to them.
I’m results driven and I hate to waste my time. PX hits it on the head when he says things like (paraphrasing)-- … “if you’re putting this much time and effort into this, not getting results, and not adapting, then maybe this isn’t for you”. My time is precious and I make use of every minute I’m in the gym with rare exception-- 2 hours scheduled away from everything else in the world. If I weren’t making gains, I wouldn’t keep wasting my time. That is to say, if I’m not progressing in size or weight after some weeks, I tweak something. Maybe it’s the analyst in me (I get paid a lot of money to ‘analyze’)… 
like body weight, the actual numbers of your measurements are meaningless. a 17" or even a 20" arm looks like shit without decent shape and definition.
[quote]1morerep wrote:
like body weight, the actual numbers of your measurements are meaningless. a 17" or even a 20" arm looks like shit without decent shape and definition. [/quote]
As if this needs to be stated, in many cases you have to get that bulky 18" arm before you can build enough size to have a RIPPED 18" arm.
I can guarantee my arms could be RIPPED at 18-19" now but that took being a much heavier weight to be able to achieve that.
The numbers do matter and the end result is what we are pushing for.
For someone who knows they have unique muscle shape that allows them to be much lighter while looking heavier, you seem to have a difficult time grasping the idea that most people don’t look big at 170lbs unless they are EXTREMELY short.
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
That being said, is there any exercise that necessarily contributes to increasing your peak? [/quote]
Thanks! I wanted to document the whole experience. I’m glad I did-- could you imagine the thrashing I’d be getting if I didn’t have pics? I don’t post them because I think I have an impressive physique-- I don’t. I post them to show that any shmuck with some focus and committment can change their body (I’m just glad it happened to work)
Peak? Curls, curls, curls. Seated, standing, alternating, reverse, incline, preacher, scott, hammer, etc. etc. etc.
I’m different. I’m one of the dumbasses that never did arm work. I did all back and leg work. Mind you, I wasn’t focused on bodybuilding, per se, but because I rowed, played hockey, worked in the field, etc, my focus as been use legs and back. My back numbers and endurance are far ahead of my pressing abilities. In fact, my torso is big compared to my arms, so in my mind, the proportions are off and need to bring up the arms a lot.
I never curled or did a lot of triceps work. My arm endurance still sucks. It’s been 5 months, and I think I’m just starting to turn over the slow twitch for the fast twitch fibers (I don’t know if that’s even possible-- maybe I’ll post that in “Things I Believe but can’t prove”) because I’m really just starting to connect with the arms. Can’t explain it.
Want bigger arms? Do more arm work. It’s not complicated. Eat more, work out more. I’ve been trying to overtrain the past to weeks. I’ve managed to add a lot of volume and initiate some DOMS I’ve haven’t felt in awhile, but I don’t think I’m even approaching overtraining-- maybe I’m still not working out hard enough.
actually i grasp the idea just fine as i see examples of it constantly.
[quote]1morerep wrote:
Professor X wrote: you seem to have a difficult time grasping the idea that most people don’t look big at 170lbs unless they are EXTREMELY short.
actually i grasp the idea just fine as i see examples of it constantly.[/quote]
Then why do you feel the need to jump in with, “numbers don’t matter” at every given opportunity? They do matter to those of us who don’t have a bone structure light enough to look muscular at 170lbs. If I was 170lbs thinking like you, I would still be benching 225lbs thinking that was a huge accomplishment.
One thing to notice is the diminishing returns. Notice in the pics how the 1/2" progress is longer between pics. I think this is similar to blowing up a balloon where the bigger it gets, it takes much more air to add 1" circumference (at a constant energy/growth rate). It’s not because I worked out less or lighter.
It took almost 2/3 of the time to add the last inch. It’s real when these really big guys say that you have to work harder and eat more just to maintain size, let alone add size. I don’t question that I’ll hit 18" (lean inches, not fat inches)-- the challenge will be to do it in '09 (hopefully the first half).
One interesting note is that my forearms have grown as well. They’re at 14" flexed, only .25" smaller than my upper arms when I started. That’s at the same time, cool, and sad (sad that my upper arms were that small). A great reminder for sure.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
One thing to notice is the diminishing returns. Notice in the pics how the 1/2" progress is longer between pics. I think this is similar to blowing up a balloon where the bigger it gets, it takes much more air to add 1" circumference (at a constant energy/growth rate).
It took almost 2/3 of the time to add the last inch. It’s real when these really big guys say that you have to work harder and eat more just to maintain size, let alone add size. I don’t question that I’ll hit 18" (lean inches, not fat inches)-- the challenge will be to do it in '09 (hopefully the first half).
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That was the point I was making to someone else when they thought that since they have 17" arms now that they will easily jump up to 18". It took me less than 3 years to reach 18" arms. It took MANY years longer than that to get them bigger to the point that they could be leaned out and ripped at that size and bigger.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
1morerep wrote:
Professor X wrote: you seem to have a difficult time grasping the idea that most people don’t look big at 170lbs unless they are EXTREMELY short.
actually i grasp the idea just fine as i see examples of it constantly.
Then why do you feel the need to jump in with, “numbers don’t matter” at every given opportunity? They do matter to those of us who don’t have a bone structure light enough to look muscular at 170lbs. If I was 170lbs thinking like you, I would still be benching 225lbs thinking that was a huge accomplishment.[/quote]
because it’s tiring seeing posts about how much people lift and how many inches they’ve added to their whatever body part when in reality they are fat, shapeless and look like crap.
[quote]1morerep wrote:
Professor X wrote:
1morerep wrote:
Professor X wrote: you seem to have a difficult time grasping the idea that most people don’t look big at 170lbs unless they are EXTREMELY short.
actually i grasp the idea just fine as i see examples of it constantly.
Then why do you feel the need to jump in with, “numbers don’t matter” at every given opportunity? They do matter to those of us who don’t have a bone structure light enough to look muscular at 170lbs. If I was 170lbs thinking like you, I would still be benching 225lbs thinking that was a huge accomplishment.
because it’s tiring seeing posts about how much people lift and how many inches they’ve added to their whatever body part when in reality they are fat, shapeless and look like crap.[/quote]
That may be true for people who don’t take this seriously at all. I am not for people becoming obese. However, there a difference between that and someone who bulks up to add more muscle. If I had worried about being extremely lean all of the time, I wouldn’t be this size.
Most people are going to have to build a muscular “bulkier” physique to well over 200lbs before they will have enough lean body mass to look good at that weight.
Again, you weigh 170lbs. You have never experienced needing to be 30lbs heavier than that to look built. You also seem resistant to that idea for some strange reason as if it isn’t true.
People who think like that are WHY there are so few people who could have a lean arm over 17-18" on this web site or even in the gym.
[quote]1morerep wrote:
like body weight, the actual numbers of your measurements are meaningless. a 17" or even a 20" arm looks like shit without decent shape and definition. [/quote]
I can appreciate that. No doubt that, in my case (I can only ever speak for myself), that the growth isn’t all lean growth, but I take solace in the fact that my upper torso and arms have grown in greater proportion to my waist, which was not the case when I was just fat-fat, so I know the gains are going where they’re supposed to.
When I flex, I’m a little smooth, but I can still see the peak, and there’s no ‘flab rebound’. I’ve accepted that for me to make any significant gains in the shortest time possible, I need to accept the fat gain. Buh-bye abs- I’ll see you in a few years. I don’t have the luxury of ‘optimum testerone production’ anymore (read: I’m an old fuck), so I’m in an all out sprint to just catch up to where I should have been, oh, 10 years ago.
For the record, I’m 5’9", 215#.