What were Australia’s violent crime rates before and after any landmark gun legislation was passed?
How does that compare to the rest of the world during the same spans of time?
I just specified prior in my post as to why gun laws (still not as strict compared to overseas) within one state whilst neighboring states have virtually no semblance of gun control remains flawed.
However I do adknowledge that culturally things are different within America vs the rest of the world. I’ve lived within the US for 6 years and I could never quite become comfortable with gun culture… It seemed absurd to me (and my entire family). However I respect the notion that gun ownership over there is viewed as a right rather than a privilege… However those who have committed a violent crime and/or who have glaring psychiatric red flags should be barred from ownership
3.5x what they are now
Source?
But a country like France has a very high gun ownership rate in spite of gun control. They have also had several recent mass shootings by people armed with illegal guns. Taking guns out of the hands of the French who legally purchased them won’t do anything to prevent the types of mass shootings they have experienced.
Convicted felons can’t own a firearm…BY LAW, yet plenty continue to possess them.
Scandinavian countries too. Yet very little homogenous crimes.
I don’t know what qualifies as gun culture but there is definitely a hunting culture in many European nations. They also make some really good handguns, rifles and shotguns over there as well and they are not all intended for law enforcement and military.
We order from HK. Excellent rifles.
I’d say “drug culture” is far more heinous than “gun culture.”
Wait a minute
The gun death rate prior to Port Arthur was 3.5/1 million inhabitants, it’s now 1/1 million inhabitants.
There’s a hunting culture here too… But people don’t use handguns here to hunt… Generally one can make whatever argument they wish to make. The fact is gun violence is disproportionately high to other countries even of which may have similar issues pertaining to gangs, organised crime/youth delinquency
Gun violence here is largely the result of a certain few demographics. Not your everyday American. Unfortunately, any discussion is immediately shut down by virtue signaling political cowardice or “activist” losers. So it remains unabated.
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I doubt Oz has the same type of criminal element as other countries. You don’t have a large number of youths ready to become ISIS killers like they have in France. You don’t have ghettos and banlieues.
I’m glad your laws are working over there and I don’t tell other countries how to run things but in a country like the US, an all out ban on gun ownership would simply be like prohibition, which also did not work.
How so, how can smoking a joint or even taking crack kill allow one person to kill about a hundred others?
In MY opinion this is bullshit. You need to differentiate between drugs as well. Obviously you aren’t talking about caffeine… The most widely abused, unregulated psychoactive drug
Have you ever been around MDMA, pot etc enough to state that use of these substances makes a user a detriment to others around them? Have you read the literature pertaining to certain drugs… Or have you spent a good portion of time putting drug kingpins away/around crackhouses wherein you witness a bunch of strung/out or tweaked out guys struggle to stay alive/keep a grip on reality. Because that isn’t a representation of what drug use is for the majority of the populace
Typically drug use pertains to a few drinks at home in private, or having a toke off a marijuana cigarette. Whilst societally we do have a drug problem. Penalisation/death penalties aren’t the way to go about solving this. I’ve questioned you about this within my war on drugs thread and linked data to back my opinion.
Do we not now… We have a massive immigrant/Muslim community (as a matter of fact I believe last year a mosque/entire community somewhat near me was investigated for preaching extremist ideology). We also have a huge problem with youth delinquency, gang related violence, organised crime and more… The criminal element is most certainly there
And we most certainly do have bad neighborhoods
That’s not answering the question. I asked about violent crime. You want to discuss only statistics relating to gun crime, which is a bad faith rhetorical tactic that’s much older than you are. London has very low gun crime, must be the safest big city there is, right?
Furthermore there’s a lot to unpack with those statistics and assumptions, especially since they are drawing broad conclusions about extremely rare events like multiple victims public shootings.
It’s as if an epidemiologist wanted to talk about how effective their measures in pandemic prevention were a few months ago.
Care to answer the question I asked?
Which question?
Doesn’t this answer as to whether violent homicide related fatalities have decreased significantly?
“Declines in firearm-related deaths before the law reforms accelerated after the reforms for total firearm deaths (p = 0.04), firearm suicides (p = 0.007)”
“The rates per 100 000 of total firearm deaths, firearm homicides and firearm suicides all at least doubled their existing rates of decline after the revised gun laws.”
Drug users need sellers. Sellers are more often violent than not. The vast majority of gun owners never have and never will commit a firearm related crime. the avg seller… ?
99% of our violence is drug driven and committed by unlawful gun owners.
The average American is law abiding. Doesn’t account for the fact that legal loopholes exist wherein one can acquire a firearm without background checks even in states where they’re required
In numerous states with background checks, having a recent violent misdmeanour on you’re record still qualifies you to purchase a firearm
Are guns the only tools used in violent acts?
If not, wouldn’t it make sense to look at all acts of violence?
Come at me !
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