I would go with the 1lb a week approach, personally. At least, that’s what I’m doing now and it’s working great. You really need to gain some weight as well as 65kg is really small. I’m about the same height at 78kg and I’m still really small.
I too and am aspiring bodybuilder (16 years old) and in my humble opinion you should lower the volume and focus more on strength. Work in the lower rep ranges more often to build a solid foundation of strength and muscle.
I’m curious, how much do you deadlift, squat, bench and over head press?
Of course, I’ve only been training for a year and a half so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I thought I’d just add another perspective into the mix.
Alright thanks for the advice there. I am actually 77kg now and not 65kg.
yeah ive lowered my volume quite abit and train mostly in the 4-10 rep range. deadlift 130kg x1, dont do squats as i had a torn ligament in my ankle from playing sports and feel [ain while squatting. dumbell bench 35kg x5 and dumbell shoulder press 30kg x4
Hi all, I have a question that I would love if you guys could give me an explanation. I thought I’ll just continue on this thread and not start a new thread just for this question. Recently I have been reading many of the posters on this site saying that an individual of age 13-17 for example can’t put on that much mass on his frame. Only once the individuals body has matured then would the be able to put on the maximal amount of size.
I am wondering why is this so? During ages 13-17, isn’t this when puberty is taking place? Shouldn’t the testosterone levels be very high? If this is the case then shouldn’t people of aged 13-17 be able to put on large amounts of muscle? Why is it that only once the individual has matured in terms of their body would they be able to grow at a faster rate? Thanks and I hope to get a response from you guys!
[quote]markwongty369 wrote:
I am wondering why is this so? During ages 13-17, isn’t this when puberty is taking place? Shouldn’t the testosterone levels be very high? If this is the case then shouldn’t people of aged 13-17 be able to put on large amounts of muscle? Why is it that only once the individual has matured in terms of their body would they be able to grow at a faster rate? Thanks and I hope to get a response from you guys![/quote]
This isn’t an either/or proposition. Individuals age 13-17 can put on a lot of quality mass, yes, it’s a great time to do so. They will not be able to approach their full potential because, well, it’s going to take TIME to eke out that last 5-15% of our body’s muscle-building potential.
At your age: Work hard. Eat. Repeat. Read, but don’t get TOO caught up in the small stuff, and learn from your OWN experience to see what feels like it works for you. Profit.
[quote]markwongty369 wrote:
I am wondering why is this so? During ages 13-17, isn’t this when puberty is taking place? Shouldn’t the testosterone levels be very high? If this is the case then shouldn’t people of aged 13-17 be able to put on large amounts of muscle? [/quote]
should testosterone be very high? not necessarily… the scale of natural testosterone goes from about 223-1100 ng/dl IIRC… by “high” during puberty, you might be around 800ng/dl during puberty if you are lucky…nothing extreme - it’s a mere spit in the ocean compared to what people using aas get (5000+)
however this is not always the case, as occasionally we see teens who are in need of trt.
You’re 15… you don’t need any bloodwork, supplements or any of that. No reason for you to worry about when you’ll reach you “maximum testosterone levels.” I’m sorry to be so blunt but you are 15 years old, enjoy training and learning and getting stronger, try new things out, you have many years before you’re even close to your physical prime.
Honestly 10 years from now you’ll still have plenty of testosterone flowing through you to make incredible gains. Don’t worry, just get in the gym and learn and enjoy training.
[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
You’re 15… you don’t need any bloodwork, supplements or any of that. No reason for you to worry about when you’ll reach you “maximum testosterone levels.” I’m sorry to be so blunt but you are 15 years old, enjoy training and learning and getting stronger, try new things out, you have many years before you’re even close to your physical prime.
Honestly 10 years from now you’ll still have plenty of testosterone flowing through you to make incredible gains. Don’t worry, just get in the gym and learn and enjoy training. [/quote]
This is patently false. I know of multiple males under 20 who have gone and had test levels around those of females.
Estrogen among other hormones are so prevalent in just about everything in society today that test levels can be VERY low even at a young age.
[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
You’re 15… you don’t need any bloodwork, supplements or any of that. No reason for you to worry about when you’ll reach you “maximum testosterone levels.” I’m sorry to be so blunt but you are 15 years old, enjoy training and learning and getting stronger, try new things out, you have many years before you’re even close to your physical prime. Honestly 10 years from now you’ll still have plenty of testosterone flowing through you to make incredible gains. Don’t worry, just get in the gym and learn and enjoy training. [/quote]
I’m actually 16 now but yeah no difference. I don’t get bloodwork done because I am worried of testosterone levels or whatever. My parents are concerned about the amounts of protein I’m eating tbh and that’s why they ask me to do it once a year. I figured why not since it’s free for me anyway.
And I have actually done bloodwork done last year and my kidney levels were actually quite elevated… My parents were quite worried about that but I didn’t really do anything about it haha. I do enjoy training very much and being in the gym is my favorite thing to do now. Haven’t taken a week off since I started lol… Not sure if that’s a bad thing though. Progress is coming at an extremely fast rate and I have nothing to complain about. Thanks for the suggestions and advice!
Looking at his picture (arms) and his desire to be in the gym all the time at 16 years old, I Have to believe his hormones are doing just fine. I just think back to that age, who ever thought of this stuff unless you had a serious problem…I was just at the gym or in the basement lifting or playing sports all the time. There might be cases of kids that age needing hormones tested but it’s the extreme exception to the rule. Nature has done a pretty solid job of giving us what we need at that age.
Looking at his picture (arms) and his desire to be in the gym all the time at 16 years old, I Have to believe his hormones are doing just fine. I just think back to that age, who ever thought of this stuff unless you had a serious problem…I was just at the gym or in the basement lifting or playing sports all the time. There might be cases of kids that age needing hormones tested but it’s the extreme exception to the rule. Nature has done a pretty solid job of giving us what we need at that age.
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Funny, I just discussed this with 2 close friends who hold medical degrees and they disagree with you.
haha, yea doctors would disagree. That’s the time we’re living in. Oh, you’re tired, you must have this new disease and since there’s a new disease, we must prescribe you the medicine we made for the made up disease. You’re fat? Ah, you must be cursed with the Fat disease, take this pill, with 117 possible negative side effects. Hey your friends are probably real smart people no doubt, and some people obviously really need medicine, but I won’t back off the fact that kids at the age of 16 are generally not having any problems with hormone levels. I don’t have a single friend from all my childhood days that ever even heard of some shit like that. Which is why i said, the exception to the rule.
[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
haha, yea doctors would disagree. That’s the time we’re living in. Oh, you’re tired, you must have this new disease and since there’s a new disease, we must prescribe you the medicine we made for the made up disease. You’re fat? Ah, you must be cursed with the Fat disease, take this pill, with 117 possible negative side effects. Hey your friends are probably real smart people no doubt, and some people obviously really need medicine, but I won’t back off the fact that kids at the age of 16 are generally not having any problems with hormone levels. I don’t have a single friend from all my childhood days that ever even heard of some shit like that. Which is why i said, the exception to the rule. [/quote]
good post, you could test yourself for everything all the time but is it really necessary.
[quote]MikeRich928 wrote:
haha, yea doctors would disagree. That’s the time we’re living in. Oh, you’re tired, you must have this new disease and since there’s a new disease, we must prescribe you the medicine we made for the made up disease. You’re fat? Ah, you must be cursed with the Fat disease, take this pill, with 117 possible negative side effects. Hey your friends are probably real smart people no doubt, and some people obviously really need medicine, but I won’t back off the fact that kids at the age of 16 are generally not having any problems with hormone levels. I don’t have a single friend from all my childhood days that ever even heard of some shit like that. Which is why i said, the exception to the rule. [/quote]
good post, you could test yourself for everything all the time but is it really necessary.
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in this case it is absolutely necessary…
where did you people come from? lol… I remember this place used to be filled with knowledge people
One thing I always wondered is even if testosterone is in normal ranges, free testosterone may not be, especially those who exercise intensely. I don’t personally recall having an enormous sex drive despite having masculine features, a deeper voice and a beard in my mid teens which I would associate with average or high test levels. Perhaps I’m mistaken and these things could be attributed to something else.
I really believe that we focus so much on Testosterone, but the body is such a complex machine… So much going on at all times, and especially during adolescence. We are amazing machines, no one substance is going to solely account for everything. Sex drive can be affected by many factors, psychological, physiological…