I see feminism at an extreme. What happens when a female teacher sleeps with one of her 13 year old students? Not only did she know the age of the child, she was an actual authoritative role in his life.
[quote]jesusforever wrote:
Sorry, but I have a hard time believing most 13 year-olds could convincingly pass as an 18 year-old. And even for those that could, it is the guy’s fault for ignoring due diligence. Ignorance doesn’t excuse pedophilia, and is more likely to be a copout in any case.[/quote]
Ive seen 13 year olds that could pass for 18 year olds, that was when i was in junior high. I have also seen a few girls in college classes that could pass for a 13 year old. I have also seen 25+ year old women that i thought were 18-20. I met 17 year old that i thought was 21-22, but she was upfront about it, in 3rd semester calculas.
In any case, daddy should beat the shit out of that fucking bitch daughter of his to teach her a lesson. I dont know, if she is saying she is 18 and is not it seems kinda like fraud to me, or something. If she is misrepresenting herself, with documented evidence on the internet, seduces some guy, and gets him thrown in jail, I mean come on that is fucking stupid. It would be like the cop telling you he is selling you some powdered sugar or baking powder or something, then busting your ass seconds later when he tells you you just bought a bunch of coke.
I love how you focus the blame solely on the 13 year-old without saying a thing about the adult man that had sex with her.
Any pedophile could claim ignorance in order to rationalize having sex with minors. It was the man’s responsibility to confirm the girl was of age.
[quote]forlife wrote:
I love how you focus the blame solely on the 13 year-old without saying a thing about the adult man that had sex with her.
Any pedophile could claim ignorance in order to rationalize having sex with minors. It was the man’s responsibility to confirm the girl was of age.[/quote]
How was he supposed to do this? And give a reasonable scenario…something the average person would do?
[quote]clip11 wrote:
How was he supposed to do this? And give a reasonable scenario…something the average person would do?[/quote]
The guy had three choices:
- Ask for an ID
- Take the risk that she is under age
- Have sex with someone else that is older
Unfortunately, he chose #2 and has to pay the consequences.
If you don’t hold people accountable for having sex with kids, how are you going to differentiate between adults with bad judgment and true pedophiles?
[quote]forlife wrote:
I love how you focus the blame solely on the 13 year-old without saying a thing about the adult man that had sex with her.
Any pedophile could claim ignorance in order to rationalize having sex with minors. It was the man’s responsibility to confirm the girl was of age.[/quote]
This is a victimless crime. The girl is a predator, she uses the law as a weapon having 2 men in prison because of her. IF it was just one man, maybe he didnt know. In many states 16 is legal, at least according to wikipedia Ages of consent in the United States - Wikipedia.
The girl having sex isnt going to cause any psychological problems for the girl. They are already present if she is impersonating a 19 year old and having sex with men. Ages of consent in Europe - Wikipedia
I guess woman in europe are less susceptable to emotional trauma than american woman. If he went to spain to fuck her it would of been legal. And having sex with what you think is a grown woman does not make him a pedophile. Have you checked ID of everyone you have had sex with?
it seems to me this “father” who is allowing his 13 y/o daughter enough time alone to pick up grown men should stop being naive about her actions and know that yes " she had bad judgment" but she needs to be held accountable for her actions.
he needs to step up beat her ass and start being a father.
this is 2 times in a row now,
and if she was picked up by 2 pedos in a row then she is obviously being neglected at home and is in danger.
[quote]forlife wrote:
clip11 wrote:
How was he supposed to do this? And give a reasonable scenario…something the average person would do?
The guy had three choices:
- Ask for an ID
- Take the risk that she is under age
- Have sex with someone else that is older
Unfortunately, he chose #2 and has to pay the consequences.
If you don’t hold people accountable for having sex with kids, how are you going to differentiate between adults with bad judgment and true pedophiles?[/quote]
When was the last time you or anyone you know asked for an id before having sex? I never have nor anyone I know.
And if she was the coniving to set up a whole web page saying she was 19 and then DRIVE to meet the guys, it is reasonable to assume she was coniving enough to have a fake id. Then what?
And to say have sex with someone older is to assume that he knew her age beforehand. Although all the information from the case tells us that this is not true.
I like the analogy someone gave on here earlier about an undercover cop selling you cocaine but when selling it to you, tells you its powdered sugar and the a few minutes later arrests you.
If a cop did that, everyone wold think he was insane. Well i think that same principle applies in this case. But because of feminist (politically correct) propoganda which leads us to believe that no rape case, especially statuatory rape case, is never the victims fault, then we have cases like this where common sense and hard facts are kicked off a cliff to appease the gods of political correctness.
I found this:
How the hell is this the guys fault? This little cunt needs to get the shit knocked out of her a few times by her dad.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
I like the analogy someone gave on here earlier about an undercover cop selling you cocaine but when selling it to you, tells you its powdered sugar and the a few minutes later arrests you.
If a cop did that, everyone wold think he was insane. Well i think that same principle applies in this case. But because of feminist (politically correct) propoganda which leads us to believe that no rape case, especially statuatory rape case, is never the victims fault, then we have cases like this where common sense and hard facts are kicked off a cliff to appease the gods of political correctness.[/quote]
Please don’t drag feminism into this. Statutory rape does not depend on gender.
On myspace I’ve been approached by girls in the 13-16 age range sexually. Luckily for me they’ve been honest about it, so I turn them down, though they’ve told me ‘nobody would find out’ and other things to entice me. They’ve looked damn good, too, but then on the internet you never know who it really is. But no way I’m taking the chance of going to jail for easy sex.
[quote]lixy wrote:
clip11 wrote:
I like the analogy someone gave on here earlier about an undercover cop selling you cocaine but when selling it to you, tells you its powdered sugar and the a few minutes later arrests you.
If a cop did that, everyone wold think he was insane. Well i think that same principle applies in this case. But because of feminist (politically correct) propoganda which leads us to believe that no rape case, especially statuatory rape case, is never the victims fault, then we have cases like this where common sense and hard facts are kicked off a cliff to appease the gods of political correctness.
Please don’t drag feminism into this. Statutory rape does not depend on gender.[/quote]
In the US you’ll find that men get a tougher sentence in most cases as opposed to a woman.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
lixy wrote:
clip11 wrote:
I like the analogy someone gave on here earlier about an undercover cop selling you cocaine but when selling it to you, tells you its powdered sugar and the a few minutes later arrests you.
If a cop did that, everyone wold think he was insane. Well i think that same principle applies in this case. But because of feminist (politically correct) propoganda which leads us to believe that no rape case, especially statuatory rape case, is never the victims fault, then we have cases like this where common sense and hard facts are kicked off a cliff to appease the gods of political correctness.
Please don’t drag feminism into this. Statutory rape does not depend on gender.
In the US you’ll find that men get a tougher sentence in most cases as opposed to a woman.
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“tougher” is one way to but it. They essential give older women a free pass if they knowingly sleep with and prey on very young boys.
However you frame it, the fact is that the man had sex with a child and should be held accountable.
The legal definition of a child is a different question, I suppose, but 13 seems too young to me no matter how mature the girl is for her age.
[quote]forlife wrote:
However you frame it, the fact is that the man had sex with a child and should be held accountable.
The legal definition of a child is a different question, I suppose, but 13 seems too young to me no matter how mature the girl is for her age.
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Really?
What is the difference between murder and manslaughter?
Murder implies premeditated intent, while manslaughter could be involuntary. Both are punishable crimes.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Murder implies premeditated intent, while manslaughter could be involuntary. Both are punishable crimes.[/quote]
So the state of mind does play a role when it comes to determine ones guilt?
Yes, I believe it does. If he knew she was a child he should be punished to a greater degree than if he genuinely thought she was an adult. Of course, determining true intent can be tricky.