100% RAW PL Championships

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Howdy, all. I just happened across this discussion. I saw several questions, and I’ll try to answer some of the ones I remember.

I’ve lifted with 100% RAW (we use all caps because it’s a fed name) since 2003. I assure you the judging is outstanding. You’ll find none of the benching described in a previous post, nor any high squats. Most of our officials officiate in multiple feds.

Yall are pretty accurate in your assessment of the low records. New fed, formerly local to VA, NC, Md, etc. The fed is growing, out to IA, LA, CA, FL, VT, etc, so you can expect to see higher records. We have two 600# benchers (John Dolan, Michael Belk) whose lifts have not been posted yet. We have a 500# bencher at a bodyweight of 177 (Will Lynch), a 232 pounder who just turned 20 who totalled 1600+ at 238 BWT, Nick Minetti (800 squat, 795 dead, 500+ bench) at SHW, Beau Moore, and more. We don’t have “all” the strongest guys in “all” ages/weights, but we have some really high quality lifters in the mix.

No knee wraps, no wrist straps. Belts are optional, but must be a 4" belt max.

The federation and meets are the most family friendly I’ve been associated with since my first meet in 1984. Being a dad, that means a lot to me.

The meet next Saturday will see another head-to-head between Nick Minneti and Beau Moore, Eddie DeBus was planning on going, and there are some really good lifters planning to attend that I doubt yall have heard or read much about.

I haven’t seen the mention of “first 50 lifters” since the venue was changed, and the event became unaffiliated with the Fit Expo.

True, there are currently no qualifying totals to make the meet. That is under discussion. With the assistance of ADAU and AAU, lifter classifications for raw lifters have been established. Sanctioned meets for records have become required.

That’s about all I remember. Hopefully one of yall’s regular posters will report on the meet after its’ completion.

God Bless.

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I know a guy that just recently competed in the Michigan High School State Meet at put up a 1700 pound total (650 squat, 450 bench, and 600 deadlift) at a bodyweight of 220. But he was using suits.

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[quote]dopar66 wrote:

No knee wraps, no wrist straps. Belts are optional, but must be a 4" belt max.
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I just want to make sure I understand, no wrist straps, but wrist WRAPS are allowed, right?

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KBC,
No wrist wraps or straps. That topic is currently being discussed by the admin of the fed, with input from the lifters. As of yet, I haven’t heard or read a decision changing that.

If you plan to compete with this fed in the near future, just plan on not wrapping or strapping with anything but the belt. If there are changes, I’ll try to remember my password long enough to let you know.

God Bless.

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If moonjumper is going to lift in the 198 class then I’ll have to drop down to 181. Fucking genetic freak. :wink:

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I’ve worked under the assumption that our fed was new, just expanding from regional to national, drug tested at all meets, blah blah blah, so our records were low. Using the link provided, I checked 100% RAW (caps included to be consistent with fed name) against AAU. I’ll list l to r, weight class, 100% RAW open total, AAU open total, and differential (with AAU as the reference).

123: 755, 1256, 501
132: 935, 1267, 332
148: 1180, 1322, 142
165: 1480, 1505, 25
181: 1490, 1516, 26
198: 1433, 1620, 187
220: 1695, 1664, -31
242: 1755, 1785, 30
275: 1845, 1918, 73
308: 1860, 1527, -333
SHW: 2100, 1910, -190

Except for the lightweights and the 198 class, the feds stack up favorably in the OPEN world records. I just don’t have the time or desire to compare by age division.

I will add this anecdote. The 100%R 132 class has no adults, and the record was set by an 18 year old who was in an automobile accident the night before the meet. He and his teammate were up until 2:00 am getting a ride and finding a hotel, and made the weigh ins at 8:00 am. They both set PRs that day, and I felt priveleged to lift in a meet with these two guys who showed a ton of guts.

God Bless.

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Genetics? haha, next its juice. I just train smart with a bunch of the best, when I meet you you’ll see, dont want to drop names on here. I’m 5’11", ripped and all I do is work , workout and date hot chicks, not complaining just braggin. see ya soon.

[quote]Mike Sullivan wrote:
If moonjumper is going to lift in the 198 class then I’ll have to drop down to 181. Fucking genetic freak. ;)[/quote]

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I was there in Miami, 30 miles from my home. The winning total was 1625, Im sure of it, the number is burned in my scull. I think that what you are talking about is the YEAR’S best USAPL #s or something. I know that the total can be beat, but it wasn’t that day- were you there? I was hanging with Capt. Kirk and Ed Coan.

[quote]apwsearch wrote:
moonjumper wrote:
HALLALUYAH BROTHER, like your thinking.
Im going to do the USAPL nationals in July, right here in my backyard, the go to Orlando in August for the 100%RAW nationals, hoping for 1700+(700,445,635) at 198 then RAW hopefully 1600, congrats on the record, very impressive, remember that records and meets all depend on who shows up, if Ray Benemerito shows up at the Nationals Im screwed, last year I sat in the Audience(spine surgery) and saw a 1625 total win the Nationals for 198, great lifting BUT I know that there are lifters who can total more, they just weren’t there that day, so 1625 won the Nationals- good for him.

There aren’t many RAW competitions, so I also plan on doing USAPL RAW, they actually have that division, Im sure that some will beat me with gear on, but I already have enough trophies, I need inner confidence about my TRUE strength.
wish you the best.

Sorry for the hijack, but I do have to jump in here for integrity’s sake.

The winning total at 2005 USAPL NAtionals for the 198’s was 1830. Second was 1702, third was 1635.

Had Beck and Mastrean not moved up, and Brandon not bombed, a sub 1700 would probably not have even placed.

I would look to this year being much more competitive because people tend to move up when gaps like this emerge.
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[quote]moonjumper wrote:
I just train smart with a bunch of the best, when I meet you you’ll see, dont want to drop names on here. I’m 5’11", ripped and all I do is work , workout and date hot chicks[/quote]

We have us a closet bodybuilder!

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[quote]ChuckyT wrote:
I look like one, I agree, just like you wish you could and everyone else here. The goal is to look athletic, at least mine is. One problem is convincing people that NOT all powerlifters are fat mean looking guys.Look at Jeff Lewis total 2799, he’s 530lbs with cellulite all over, I wouldn’t curse my worst enemy by looking like him. and YES I m single so it helps me score more hot babes. That’s why every bodybuilding show is packed full of HOT chicks and almost every powerlifting meet barely has one attractive girl, thats weird, unless you dont like girls and that’s another subject.
We have us a closet bodybuilder![/quote]

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1.) I remember being 190 pounds 6% bodyfat (tested with calipers and impedance) during high school wrestling. I’ve since taken up weight training.

2.) Talking about all the hot ass you get on the Internet is a sure indicator that you haven’t been laid in years. Which must be an accomplishment in the Penis of America, given that Florida is the homeland of the skank golddigging single mom. What’s next, you going to start talking about how much money you make?

3.) Talking about how great you are on the Internet is a sure indicator that you aren’t that great. I can’t really think of a highly ranked strength athlete that does this. Why would they?

4.) It sounds like you would fit in with the bodybuilding crowd too. Do you gel your hair before the meet in case you hot chick cheering section is there? Are they impressed when you tell them your weight room numbers? Do they bring their kids along? Do you can everyone “BRO”? Do you and your training partner have His and His towels?

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You are funny, I’ll give you that.

[quote]ChuckyT wrote:
1.) I remember being 190 pounds 6% bodyfat (tested with calipers and impedance) during high school wrestling. I’ve since taken up weight training.

2.) Talking about all the hot ass you get on the Internet is a sure indicator that you haven’t been laid in years. Which must be an accomplishment in the Penis of America, given that Florida is the homeland of the skank golddigging single mom. What’s next, you going to start talking about how much money you make?

3.) Talking about how great you are on the Internet is a sure indicator that you aren’t that great. I can’t really think of a highly ranked strength athlete that does this. Why would they?

4.) It sounds like you would fit in with the bodybuilding crowd too. Do you gel your hair before the meet in case you hot chick cheering section is there? Are they impressed when you tell them your weight room numbers? Do they bring their kids along? Do you can everyone “BRO”? Do you and your training partner have His and His towels?[/quote]

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How about the men’s 66 pound 5 year old and under RAW world records!

35/25/75/135!!!

I wonder what he opened with.

[quote]CU AeroStallion wrote:
that’s a cool damn link[/quote]

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I just did a APF meet yesterday in Florida, and did it totally RAW, just a signlet -HA.

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[quote]moonjumper wrote:
I was there in Miami, 30 miles from my home. The winning total was 1625, Im sure of it, the number is burned in my scull. I think that what you are talking about is the YEAR’S best USAPL #s or something. I know that the total can be beat, but it wasn’t that day- were you there? I was hanging with Capt. Kirk and Ed Coan.

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For USAPL the 2005 Men’s Nationals were held in Killeen Texas. Ray Benemerito won again with 1830 total. The 2006 Men’s Nationals were in Miami and Greg Jones won with 1791 total.

Are you thinking of the Collegiate Nationals? The 198 winner of those in 2006 (Miami) had a 1642 total, which is closer to the 1625 you have “burned into your scull(sic).”

Nobody at the either the collegiate or men’s open national meets totaled 1625 in Miami (2006).

Maybe instead of wasting time name dropping you could just go to the USAPL website and see what the numbers actually were.

Regards,

Sensless

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Thereis no 191 its 181.No problem there is a 198.
To anybody thinking of entering this meet(and I hope you do),make sure you understand the rules of powerlifting.
The way most(not all)people squat they are going to lose 20 to 30 % when they try to get legal depth.Legal is hip bone below knee.Put a one second pause in the bottom of your bench and depending on how you normaly bench you can lose alot here.There are alot of rules that apply but these are the two things that can ruin your day,make sure you know what you are doing before you bomb out on the platform.
The records in this federation are on the low side ,because it is a new federationbut if anybody has ideas of going there to break a record(and I hope they do),a 350lb squat without suit or raps to legal depth in a drug tested meet is not quite the candy it looks like on the record page.
So make sure you know what your doing and then do it as well as you can and have a blast.

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[quote]backer wrote:
Thereis no 191 its 181.No problem there is a 198.
To anybody thinking of entering this meet(and I hope you do),make sure you understand the rules of powerlifting.
The way most(not all)people squat they are going to lose 20 to 30 % when they try to get legal depth.Legal is hip bone below knee.Put a one second pause in the bottom of your bench and depending on how you normaly bench you can lose alot here.There are alot of rules that apply but these are the two things that can ruin your day,make sure you know what you are doing before you bomb out on the platform.
The records in this federation are on the low side ,because it is a new federationbut if anybody has ideas of going there to break a record(and I hope they do),a 350lb squat without suit or raps to legal depth in a drug tested meet is not quite the candy it looks like on the record page.
So make sure you know what your doing and then do it as well as you can and have a blast.[/quote]

Well said.
A side note: wait for the “rack” command on the squats, the “press” command on the bench is from the chest (opposite USAPL, I think), and wait for the “down” command on the deadlift.

It’s going to be a fun meet, although rumor has it that one of the top lifters may be injured. I’ll let yall know.

God Bless.

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Hi RAW people. I have a quick question about your classifications (Elite, Master, Class X, etc.).

Right now, I’m nowhere near the records for my weight class. I’m using the classifications on the RAW site as temporary goals. Are those classifications fairly standard across all raw federations? For example, I see that the AAU ones are a few tens of pounds higher (in general) than the RAW ones, but if the difference is generally this small, then I won’t worry about it.

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Hi. If you’re asking about the classifications for elite/m1 etc, the standard at the 100% RAW site are being unified. NASA, AAU, ADAU have gotten on board, and USAPL is considering.

An update from the nationals meet. The whiz quiz results aren’t in yet, so I’m going to be a tad vague until all “drug free” is verified.

Bench only: female, 130 lbs, 260 bench. Male, 181, 445 (missed 500)
Male, 198, 525 or 545, can’t remember.
That’s all the bench-only I remember.

Full power: 8 qualified elite. 148: 1 lifter elite. 165: 2 lifters elite, including a 1400 lb performance. 181, squat record of 515. 198: 2 (?) lifters elite, 2 600+ deadlifts, 1 squat around 600. 242: can’t remember. 275: 1 elite lifter. 308: 825 squat. SHW: well, all I can say is Beau Moore.

I learned why it’s all caps for RAW. It was started in 1999 as a Christian federation, no drugs, also raw. A creative acronym was formed, and it stands for “Redeemed Among the World.”

40+ lifters full power, tight judging, excellent quality meet. The DVD will be worth watching.

Obligatory disclaimer: I set no records, did not qualify elite, didn’t win a weight class, have no agenda other than I enjoy lifting in this fed.

God Bless.
Doug P.

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Pretty cool. Congrats to all lifters.

Any idea when the full results will be posted?