#1 Seduction Artist in the World 2012 - Arash Dibazar

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

All around me I see married people happily pursuing their lives together, young people getting married and having babies, and people of all ages dating. One of my clients’ 70-something grandparents recently got married, with a big, long-anticipated celebration.
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The eternal sollipsism of the female mind, you dont experience it, it does not exist, certainly not in significant numbers.

Meanwhile, I am glad that we moved on from me taking advantage of innocent little doves and moved on to my feelings of helplessness.

YOu dont really care if you narrative makes sense, dont you, because even on a theoretical level I have problems envisioning a man that might incorporate all of these qualities, the sheer cognitive dissonance…[/quote]

What qualities? Are we talking about my delusions, or the men I’ve deluded myself about?

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
You may have heard this whole “married men are healthier, make more money, live longer” whatever.

The implied conclusion is, that marriage is good for men.

Hogwash.

If you are healthy, rich and male you can have your pick of the litter and damn, right, she wont leave you, because she cannot get better.

So, if I apply my spin to the very same data, married men are preselected in two ways, the good catches are more likely to get married and, if they remain a good catch to stay married.

That spin you will never hear in public because of the apparently non existing female narrative which kind of has a problem accepting that if you go broke she will leave your ass.
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So, your argument is that these studies failed to apply the most elementary of statistical methods: controlling for SES? Maybe. Can you show me that in the data? Believe it or not, I personally know many couples who are not well off at all. None of the women have left the men for being broke. And trust me, they are broke. Honestly, my guess is that you’d find this is more common with higher SES, because women coming from privileged backgrounds would be more used to being taken care of at a certain standard.

I don’t know. I’d like to hear your version of a reality that would actually please you to live in. I’ve certainly had moments where I felt the way you do; but not all (or even a majority) of the attractive women I knew in college were dating football players or jocks. They dated guys at about their attractiveness level who had social skills that were about normal for their peer group.[/quote]

I used those statistics as an example for the official narrative. The data is undisputed, but you can look at when women decide to get a divorce and the official narrative does not hold.

http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2087&context=commpapers

I am actually doing alright right now.

All you need to do is to break free from the female narrative and start to believe that if they can go feral, so can you.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

As for single moms being socially accepted, yes, as are single dads. It’s the non-custodial mom who isn’t around I’m comparing your dead beat dad to. And she is despised to a degree he is not. We expect more on the maternal side.[/quote]

Mebbe, but how many are there really?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

All around me I see married people happily pursuing their lives together, young people getting married and having babies, and people of all ages dating. One of my clients’ 70-something grandparents recently got married, with a big, long-anticipated celebration.
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The eternal sollipsism of the female mind, you dont experience it, it does not exist, certainly not in significant numbers.

Meanwhile, I am glad that we moved on from me taking advantage of innocent little doves and moved on to my feelings of helplessness.

YOu dont really care if you narrative makes sense, dont you, because even on a theoretical level I have problems envisioning a man that might incorporate all of these qualities, the sheer cognitive dissonance…[/quote]

What qualities? Are we talking about my delusions, or the men I’ve deluded myself about?[/quote]

And sollipsism again…

No the qualities I would have to possess to be all that you want to believe me to be.

I mean, I could see an angry, bitter, slightly creepy dude preying of insecure maidens with daddy issues that lost their way but I dont see how the helpless part fits in there.

BTW, “whoopppeee, 2nd woman” woman was 38.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
The unhappiest, most virulent of the feminists are the bed partners of orion’s ilk, which seeks revenge as much as positive change. Orion’s motto may as well be "you’ll be sorry!’

In fact, positive change is already occurring and has been. I’m determined to stay on schedule this morning so I’ll have time to run and lift, so I’m not going to look it up, but wasn’t the Violence Against Women Act amended in 2004 to address unfairnesses to men? I’ve posted it a half dozen times. I think it was '04.
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And then female arrests skyrocketed and the model of the “prinary aggressor” was introduced which lead to the following result:

The primary aggressor. This is who law officials are trained to take into custody on a standard domestic violence disturbance. How exactly is the primary aggressor defined? According to the Violence Against Women Act, which happens to be the blueprint law enforcement departments use when handling a domestic violence case, the primary aggressor is the person with the most height, weight, and physical strength while the primary victim, an appropriate title for the one not being arrested is the person who will most likely need protection. Basically, if one can read in between the mile wide lines of this law, the main party that law officials are instructed to arrest upon arrival to the disturbance are men since most men are physically stronger than women.

http://jmnzz.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/primary-aggressor/[/quote]

That is some top-notch fear mongering, but I believe that nowadays everyone is brought in in a domestic violence complaint unless one party is clearly drunk or high and out of control, which certainly happens.[/quote]

A violent assault is one act in a series of controlling and intimidating tactics used by a batterer to attain power and control over the victim. Victims may utilize violence to avert an attack from the aggressor or in self-defense. Thus, the predominant aggressor may not be the first party to use violence in the incident. Batterers may try to convince the police that the violence was mutual and that they are also a victim. If both parties are arrested and charged, there is little possibility that the batterer will be convicted. Research indicates that when mandatory arrest laws are combined with predominant aggressor policies, dual arrests are reduced to 2% of all domestic violence arrests.

http://www.stopvaw.org/determining_the_predominant_aggressor

The guidelines on how to determine the predominant agressor however contain gems like this:

Relative size/apparent strengthâ??a clear signal to arrest the man
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Risk of future injuryâ??short of clairvoyance, how can an officer accurately predict the future risk of injury?
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Prior complaints of domestic violence between the partiesâ??does not distinguish between complaints that were based on trivial or non-existent incidents versus complaints that were upheld in a court of law.
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Relative severity/extent of injury inflicted on each personâ??statistically, women face a greater risk of injury than men, but the decision to arrest should be based on the facts at hand, not on general statistics (as the example on page 1 of this Special Report reveals)

which means that, if you are a man, your ass is geitting arrested.

Which just so happens to fit into the statistics, even though we know that domestic violence is initiated as often by women as by men.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

But the size and number of gametes are not the only thing to consider here.

You have to take into account that in order to succesfully procreate a woman has to invest at least 9 months a man about 10 seconds.

So, even if you had eggs in abundance, your minimal investment would still be higher, thus you would be more discriminating. [/quote]

On the surface this appears to make sense.
However, many women report experiencing insatiable libido during pregnancy.
Many report enjoying sex the whole 9 months.

And males also report becoming “attached” to the 9 months after his 10 second contribution. ( no offense intended ).

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I dont see though how that contradicts anything I wrote.

Yes, we have mechanisms in place to make sure that the man stays for a period after birth.

So?

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So it is not just about eggs x sperm.

And you need to look outside my womb deeper down into my id:

Heil the Sheocracy?

[quote]enigma666 wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

Orion…you’re a chill dude who actually Understands, from the few posts I’ve read. No need to explain yourself to idiots.

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Unfortunately, there is.

It is not about them, it is about the one in ten that suffers in silence because he thinks the problem is him.

If anyone who reads this is one of those, start here:

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/[/quote]

I Agree with that point, which is why I do what I do. I Fight for those guys, Because I Can. I take hits for them, Because I Can. I Teach and Empower them, Because I Can.

All you chumps and idiots still debating endlessly on the science of attraction, THAT ABOVE RIGHT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.

Orion, keep fighting the good fight Brother. If you need help with anything or wish to get in touch with Arash, let me know via private message.

Same goes for anyone else. If you are looking to Better Your Life, Learn the Science of Attracting Beautiful Women, Develop Unbreakable Confidence, shoot me a private message and we’ll go from there.

…once again

carry on…

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I hope to god Arash gives you monetary kick backs for the fish you snag him, because there is otherwise way to much nuthugery and shameless promotion going on.

Sorry but memorizing routines and lines and pretending to talk on your phone to have an excuse to talk to a woman(like Arash him self endorses)is not “alpha” its try hard, fake, and reeks of being afraid and needing a crutch or a prop, that in its self is as far from “alpha” and confidence as it gets.

Your “teacher” said one thing I like “Be cause not effect” but that’s not really that mind blowing now is it?

Guess what girls are human just like us men, they are not some magical creature that you need to be handed a rulebook to understand. Understand your self, understand human nature, no need to give 1000 bucks to a snake oil salesman.

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Cool…yet another guy who is NOT getting laid, pretending to know a lick about being Alpha and hating on someone who is.

You little beta sheep amuse me. Please continue…

Orion. Keep putting these chumps and feminist She-men in their place.

Back on topic folks!

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]enigma666 wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

Orion…you’re a chill dude who actually Understands, from the few posts I’ve read. No need to explain yourself to idiots.

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Unfortunately, there is.

It is not about them, it is about the one in ten that suffers in silence because he thinks the problem is him.

If anyone who reads this is one of those, start here:

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/[/quote]

I Agree with that point, which is why I do what I do. I Fight for those guys, Because I Can. I take hits for them, Because I Can. I Teach and Empower them, Because I Can.

All you chumps and idiots still debating endlessly on the science of attraction, THAT ABOVE RIGHT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.

Orion, keep fighting the good fight Brother. If you need help with anything or wish to get in touch with Arash, let me know via private message.

Same goes for anyone else. If you are looking to Better Your Life, Learn the Science of Attracting Beautiful Women, Develop Unbreakable Confidence, shoot me a private message and we’ll go from there.

…once again

carry on…

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I hope to god Arash gives you monetary kick backs for the fish you snag him, because there is otherwise way to much nuthugery and shameless promotion going on.

Sorry but memorizing routines and lines and pretending to talk on your phone to have an excuse to talk to a woman(like Arash him self endorses)is not “alpha” its try hard, fake, and reeks of being afraid and needing a crutch or a prop, that in its self is as far from “alpha” and confidence as it gets.

Your “teacher” said one thing I like “Be cause not effect” but that’s not really that mind blowing now is it?

Guess what girls are human just like us men, they are not some magical creature that you need to be handed a rulebook to understand. Understand your self, understand human nature, no need to give 1000 bucks to a snake oil salesman.

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Cool…yet another guy who is NOT getting laid, pretending to know a lick about being Alpha and hating on someone who is.

You little beta sheep amuse me. Please continue…

Orion. Keep putting these chumps and feminist She-men in their place.
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You are so god damned clueless its fucking funny.

Instead of addressing the validity of my statement in that Arash is teaching you to use crutches like memorized lines and fake phone calls and a bunch of other bull shit like rephrasing common sense and saying that its mind blowing stuff, you choose to go juvenile.

Grow up, grow a set of fucking balls and maybe you people wouldn’t need Arash to teach you these “mind blowing” lessons.

Congratulations on being indoctrinated by this ass hat.

Yah you are right being a strong confident man is so beta, and I guess being a little wide eyed ball licking sponge for some one else ideals is alpha.

keep bleating and praising the master you blind little sheep.

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]enigma666 wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

Orion…you’re a chill dude who actually Understands, from the few posts I’ve read. No need to explain yourself to idiots.

[/quote]

Unfortunately, there is.

It is not about them, it is about the one in ten that suffers in silence because he thinks the problem is him.

If anyone who reads this is one of those, start here:

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/[/quote]

I Agree with that point, which is why I do what I do. I Fight for those guys, Because I Can. I take hits for them, Because I Can. I Teach and Empower them, Because I Can.

All you chumps and idiots still debating endlessly on the science of attraction, THAT ABOVE RIGHT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.

Orion, keep fighting the good fight Brother. If you need help with anything or wish to get in touch with Arash, let me know via private message.

Same goes for anyone else. If you are looking to Better Your Life, Learn the Science of Attracting Beautiful Women, Develop Unbreakable Confidence, shoot me a private message and we’ll go from there.

…once again

carry on…

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I hope to god Arash gives you monetary kick backs for the fish you snag him, because there is otherwise way to much nuthugery and shameless promotion going on.

Sorry but memorizing routines and lines and pretending to talk on your phone to have an excuse to talk to a woman(like Arash him self endorses)is not “alpha” its try hard, fake, and reeks of being afraid and needing a crutch or a prop, that in its self is as far from “alpha” and confidence as it gets.

Your “teacher” said one thing I like “Be cause not effect” but that’s not really that mind blowing now is it?

Guess what girls are human just like us men, they are not some magical creature that you need to be handed a rulebook to understand. Understand your self, understand human nature, no need to give 1000 bucks to a snake oil salesman.

[/quote]

Cool…yet another guy who is NOT getting laid, pretending to know a lick about being Alpha and hating on someone who is.

You little beta sheep amuse me. Please continue…

Orion. Keep putting these chumps and feminist She-men in their place.
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LOL!

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Guys try so hard to find someone to squander their energy to. The real challenge is to transmute the sexual energy into something better.[/quote]
Like making maple syrup?

Or snow angels?

or Hockey?[/quote]

That explains a lot…

This thread is entertaining.

I thought it was a lack of deadliftz that caused a lack of wominz.

Silly me.

[quote]enigma666 wrote:
Grow up, grow a set of fucking balls and maybe you people wouldn’t need Arash to teach you these “mind blowing” lessons.

Congratulations on being indoctrinated by this ass hat.

Yah you are right being a strong confident man is so beta, and I guess being a little wide eyed ball licking sponge for some one else ideals is alpha.

keep bleating and praising the master you blind little sheep.[/quote]

x2

[quote]orion wrote:

All you need to do is to break free from the female narrative and start to believe that if they can go feral, so can you. [/quote]

“Its premise is that if women want to be successful in love, they should reject the cultural script they’ve been sold and adopt a whole new view of men and marriage.”

"Prior to the 1970s, people viewed gender roles as as equally valuable. Many would argue women had the better end of the deal! It’s hard to claim women were oppressed in a nation in which men were expected to stand up when a lady enters the room or to lay down their lives to spare women life. When the Titanic went down in 1912, its sinking took 1,450 lives. Only 103 were women. One-hundred three.

Compare that with last year’s wrecked cruise line, the Costa Concordia. It resulted in fewer deaths, but there was another significant difference. “There was no ‘women and children first’ policy. There were big men, crew members, pushing their way past us to get into the lifeboats. It was disgusting,” said passenger Sandra Rogers, 62.

The captain of the ship agrees. In USA Today, Francesco Schettino was asked about his New Year’s resolution. He responded, “Bone up on the parts about ‘women and children first’ and ‘the captain goes down with his ship.’”

You see, the problem with equality is that it implies two things are interchangeable - meaning one thing can be substituted for the other with no ramifications. That is what feminists would have us believe, and anyone who contradicts this dogma is branded sexist."

And she does touch on what I have said - same equity not equality - though still not using the word equity:

“But the truth must be heard. Being equal in worth, or value, is not the same as being identical, interchangeable beings.”

Read more: To be happy, we must admit women and men aren't 'equal' | Fox News

[quote]seph89 wrote:
Back on topic folks!

The Fortune Teller's Gift - Live in the Future - YouTube [/quote]

Screen grab caption = “This is how you caress a man’s balls, okay?”

wut

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Is this a joke?

A man who needs to disfigure himself like that, recycling 1960 hippie philosophy, and MEN actually admire and emulate him?

If I felt I needed to follow someone like this, I think I’d just have a good friend take me out and put a bullet in my head.

Well, not really, but, really???[/quote]

I think you used the term MEN incorrectly there…

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Is this a joke?

A man who needs to disfigure himself like that, recycling 1960 hippie philosophy, and MEN actually admire and emulate him?

If I felt I needed to follow someone like this, I think I’d just have a good friend take me out and put a bullet in my head.

Well, not really, but, really???[/quote]

I think you used the term MEN incorrectly there…
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LOL. Thanks, you’re right.

How are you, Busy?[/quote]

Earning my name as usual.

Things are going ok.