#1 Seduction Artist in the World 2012 - Arash Dibazar

Alpha_F · February 3, 2013, 2:14am

Nephorm,

You have made a great return.

Welcome back.

on_edge · February 3, 2013, 7:01am

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Nephorm,

You have made a great return.

Welcome back.[/quote]

Sounds funny because a nephorm is a intestinal parasite one picks up in TJ.

orion · February 3, 2013, 10:00am

[quote]nephorm wrote:
orion, I am going to quote back to you some of the advice you gave me in 2006:

[quote] orion wrote:

All right, finish you education, get a well paid job , meet an attractive, intelligent woman with an insatiable sexual appetite
[…]
Just accept that, and let go of the rock …
[…]
You are going to die, you know that, don?t you?
[/quote]

Let go of the rock, orion. [/quote]

I did let go.

You just dont like what I found downstream.

EmilyQ · February 3, 2013, 8:54pm

[quote]nephorm wrote:
orion, I am going to quote back to you some of the advice you gave me in 2006:

[quote] orion wrote:

All right, finish you education, get a well paid job , meet an attractive, intelligent woman with an insatiable sexual appetite
[…]
Just accept that, and let go of the rock …
[…]
You are going to die, you know that, don?t you?
[/quote]

Let go of the rock, orion. [/quote]

Did you ever let go of the rock? If so, what did you find downstream?

nephorm · February 3, 2013, 9:14pm

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Nephorm,

You have made a great return.

Welcome back.[/quote]

Sounds funny because a nephorm is a intestinal parasite one picks up in TJ.[/quote]

That’s just a part-time gig.

nephorm · February 3, 2013, 9:15pm

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Did you ever let go of the rock? If so, what did you find downstream?[/quote]

Still clinging on for dear life. I spend most of my time working.

undoredo · February 4, 2013, 4:34am

[quote]orion wrote:
There is no way that this is how its going to be.
[/quote]
I think most of what you say about this kind of stuff constitutes a pretty good model to explain certain aggregate behaviors and certain aggregate phenomena. (Compared to anything else I have seen or heard, maybe a superb model.) But I also believe in free will, morality, and the ability of an individual human being to make the hard choice to overcome drives and instincts.

It is possible that “this is how it’s going to be”.

That is probably what happens in a lot of similar cases; for all I know it might be what happens in 99%+ of similar cases. But that is not guaranteed to be that way in any individual case.

Damn hard to turn back, but he has a free will.

I would assume this last one is intended to mean women whose men are highly “alpha”. This last one is probably partially correct: there are probably more such women who will tolerate discreet cheating than there are such women who will tolerate public humiliation. But this is virtually impossible to be universally true, even limited to women whose men are highly “alpha” (even if we cherry-pick which of several people’s definitions of “alpha”). I understand hypergamy and crowded at the top, but sometimes the queen of the hill just doesn’t take any shit from anybody.

seph89 · February 4, 2013, 5:29am

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

Orion…you’re a chill dude who actually Understands, from the few posts I’ve read. No need to explain yourself to idiots.

[/quote]

Unfortunately, there is.

It is not about them, it is about the one in ten that suffers in silence because he thinks the problem is him.

If anyone who reads this is one of those, start here:

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/[/quote]

I Agree with that point, which is why I do what I do. I Fight for those guys, Because I Can. I take hits for them, Because I Can. I Teach and Empower them, Because I Can.

All you chumps and idiots still debating endlessly on the science of attraction, THAT ABOVE RIGHT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.

Orion, keep fighting the good fight Brother. If you need help with anything or wish to get in touch with Arash, let me know via private message.

Same goes for anyone else. If you are looking to Better Your Life, Learn the Science of Attracting Beautiful Women, Develop Unbreakable Confidence, shoot me a private message and we’ll go from there.

…once again

carry on…

enigma666 · February 4, 2013, 2:44pm

[quote]seph89 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]seph89 wrote:

Orion…you’re a chill dude who actually Understands, from the few posts I’ve read. No need to explain yourself to idiots.

[/quote]

Unfortunately, there is.

It is not about them, it is about the one in ten that suffers in silence because he thinks the problem is him.

If anyone who reads this is one of those, start here:

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/[/quote]

I Agree with that point, which is why I do what I do. I Fight for those guys, Because I Can. I take hits for them, Because I Can. I Teach and Empower them, Because I Can.

All you chumps and idiots still debating endlessly on the science of attraction, THAT ABOVE RIGHT THERE IS ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.

Orion, keep fighting the good fight Brother. If you need help with anything or wish to get in touch with Arash, let me know via private message.

Same goes for anyone else. If you are looking to Better Your Life, Learn the Science of Attracting Beautiful Women, Develop Unbreakable Confidence, shoot me a private message and we’ll go from there.

…once again

carry on…

[/quote]

I hope to god Arash gives you monetary kick backs for the fish you snag him, because there is otherwise way to much nuthugery and shameless promotion going on.

Sorry but memorizing routines and lines and pretending to talk on your phone to have an excuse to talk to a woman(like Arash him self endorses)is not “alpha” its try hard, fake, and reeks of being afraid and needing a crutch or a prop, that in its self is as far from “alpha” and confidence as it gets.

Your “teacher” said one thing I like “Be cause not effect” but that’s not really that mind blowing now is it?

Guess what girls are human just like us men, they are not some magical creature that you need to be handed a rulebook to understand. Understand your self, understand human nature, no need to give 1000 bucks to a snake oil salesman.

EmilyQ · February 4, 2013, 3:07pm

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This makes me very sad for the sweet young woman and I wonder why the man who professes to love her doesn’t feel the same. Because if he did, there would be no question what to do, and wouldn’t have been that night. That being the case, he should consider his ability to make commitments of this magnitude.

[/quote]

Sadly, the, um, guy does love her. He would never hurt her intentionally.

Orion is correct that guys can cheat just because a girl is hot and there is no emotional betrayal involved. Sad, but that’s how guys are wired.[/quote]

You regret your hypothetical friends nature?

If I may ask, when was the last time you heard a woman apologize for hers?

[/quote]

Apologize for her specific nature, or for your own personal idea of all women’s nature? I do the former all the time, and in fact had to do it last week. I did it last night, when it was called to my attention that I was chattering during football part of the Superbowl. Talkative is my nature, occasionally reactive to things going on in my head is my nature, quick to pull back so as not to get hurt is my nature. I’ll apologize for any of those things, along with various other qualities of mine that I know can be trying to the people close to me.

But I’m not going to apologize for the projection of your fears onto women.

Meanwhile, had an incredibly stressful weekend with a cousin who seemed to embody your views on women, orion, and at the same time sounded a lot like you. I couldn’t wait for her to leave.

She’s not very feminine and I can’t decide whether her looks have caused her to be treated in ways that have formed her beliefs and personality with regard to men, or whether her behavior and mindset are such that she creates the very “men are shitbags” dynamic she complains about. But she sounded incredibly cold and calculating and - and this was the stressful thing - overwhelmingly unhappy.

dirtman · February 4, 2013, 3:21pm

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
she creates the very “men are shitbags” dynamic she complains about. But she sounded incredibly cold and calculating and - and this was the stressful thing - overwhelmingly unhappy. [/quote]

I meet women like this all the time. Made me give up on them.

When the perfect girl for me comes along she will come along I will know it and so will she

EmilyQ · February 4, 2013, 5:53pm

[quote]dirtman wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
she creates the very “men are shitbags” dynamic she complains about. But she sounded incredibly cold and calculating and - and this was the stressful thing - overwhelmingly unhappy. [/quote]

I meet women like this all the time. Made me give up on them.

When the perfect girl for me comes along she will come along I will know it and so will she :)[/quote]

Because when you neg her she touches her hair?

Kidding, kidding…

system · February 4, 2013, 5:57pm

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This makes me very sad for the sweet young woman and I wonder why the man who professes to love her doesn’t feel the same. Because if he did, there would be no question what to do, and wouldn’t have been that night. That being the case, he should consider his ability to make commitments of this magnitude.

[/quote]

Sadly, the, um, guy does love her. He would never hurt her intentionally.

Orion is correct that guys can cheat just because a girl is hot and there is no emotional betrayal involved. Sad, but that’s how guys are wired.[/quote]

You regret your hypothetical friends nature?

If I may ask, when was the last time you heard a woman apologize for hers?

[/quote]

No, I don’t regret my “hypotheical” friend’s nature.

I do view marriage and the raising of children as a partnership, and that requires mutual trust and sacrifice, which this could jeapardize.

Putting that partnership in jeapardy because of a hot piece of ass is the regret.

I will note the sweet girl is very aware that other girls find me very attractive/all around “good catch,” and has grown a pretty thick skin about aggressive girls, but would still be beyond pissed.

Testy1 · February 4, 2013, 6:35pm

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]dirtman wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
she creates the very “men are shitbags” dynamic she complains about. But she sounded incredibly cold and calculating and - and this was the stressful thing - overwhelmingly unhappy. [/quote]

I meet women like this all the time. Made me give up on them.

When the perfect girl for me comes along she will come along I will know it and so will she :)[/quote]

Because when you neg her she touches her hair?

Kidding, kidding…[/quote]

orion · February 4, 2013, 9:16pm

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This makes me very sad for the sweet young woman and I wonder why the man who professes to love her doesn’t feel the same. Because if he did, there would be no question what to do, and wouldn’t have been that night. That being the case, he should consider his ability to make commitments of this magnitude.

[/quote]

Sadly, the, um, guy does love her. He would never hurt her intentionally.

Orion is correct that guys can cheat just because a girl is hot and there is no emotional betrayal involved. Sad, but that’s how guys are wired.[/quote]

You regret your hypothetical friends nature?

If I may ask, when was the last time you heard a woman apologize for hers?

[/quote]

No, I don’t regret my “hypotheical” friend’s nature.

I do view marriage and the raising of children as a partnership, and that requires mutual trust and sacrifice, which this could jeapardize.

Putting that partnership in jeapardy because of a hot piece of ass is the regret.

I will note the sweet girl is very aware that other girls find me very attractive/all around “good catch,” and has grown a pretty thick skin about aggressive girls, but would still be beyond pissed.[/quote]

I think what I was trying to say is, if she was to leave you for a better guy, would she be sorry?

Dont think you need to worry about that, but she would not be.

Its just this, if I had kids I would take family seriously by extension. Fuck it, my mother is cool and my brothers are sometimes beareable, so maybe I already do.

However, if I found it hard to keep my dick in my pants, which I would, I would try to be discreet, not bring any STDs home and make damn sure that any of those part time broads understood that my family is sacrosanct, which, in the original meaning meant that even touching it was an insult to the gods that could only be washed away by the blood of the perpetrator.

Be that as it may, whichever side you come down on, it is your problem, not hers, deal with it.

That is the price you pay for getting some strange pussy, to make her pay the price emotionally, that would be wrong.

To quote my great-grandmother:

“If you are a man at night, you are a man at daytime too”.

Usually said to farmhands who drank all night and chased girls when she kicked them out of bed by 0530.

EmilyQ · February 4, 2013, 11:00pm

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

This makes me very sad for the sweet young woman and I wonder why the man who professes to love her doesn’t feel the same. Because if he did, there would be no question what to do, and wouldn’t have been that night. That being the case, he should consider his ability to make commitments of this magnitude.

[/quote]

Sadly, the, um, guy does love her. He would never hurt her intentionally.

Orion is correct that guys can cheat just because a girl is hot and there is no emotional betrayal involved. Sad, but that’s how guys are wired.[/quote]

You regret your hypothetical friends nature?

If I may ask, when was the last time you heard a woman apologize for hers?

[/quote]

No, I don’t regret my “hypotheical” friend’s nature.

I do view marriage and the raising of children as a partnership, and that requires mutual trust and sacrifice, which this could jeapardize.

Putting that partnership in jeapardy because of a hot piece of ass is the regret.

I will note the sweet girl is very aware that other girls find me very attractive/all around “good catch,” and has grown a pretty thick skin about aggressive girls, but would still be beyond pissed.[/quote]

Hurt and pissed are two different things. Pissed is what you are when someone uses your car and leaves it on empty, and then you’re late for an important meeting in the morning because you have to stop and get gas in the icy rain. Devastated is what you are when you discover that the person you trusted most did something he knew would cause you permanent damage, and now all the things you believed were true aren’t, or maybe they are but how can you ever know?

Not to beat you up, you say you’re done and I believe you, but you’re still minimizing what this is from her perspective, assuming she’s the girl you think she is, which I don’t doubt.

EmilyQ · February 4, 2013, 11:02pm

[quote]Chushin wrote: