[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m always impressed by the raw power of a man afraid to write his naughty words. Fukk yeah, shyt’s real, man!
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That was my first reaction too, but I have no doubt in my mind that the author gets laid like tile. [/quote]
Is “getting laid” the ultimate goal when it comes to women?[/quote]
What else is there.
At least in the West you can only buy into an illusion that your game has already shattered.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I don’t even know where to start. [/quote]
Geez Emily, Give poor O a break! All that talk about liking yourself, confidence, and growing in a relationship probably hurts him at least as much as guys who don’t give a crap about his jihad.
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You are right, it bothers me about as much.[/quote]
Ohh! Too cool! Only a page ago you were writing paragraphs about men who don’t give a crap and don’t care about this war of the sexes you are waging.
Now this? What happened in 24 hrs?
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Nothing.
You just dont understand the place of cold detachment I am coming from.
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Most jail cells are, indeed, cold and detaching – regardless of whether they are meant to keep you in or those who would hurt you out.[/quote]
If that is so, it is also true that I am no longer a slave to the pussay.
Choose your cell, you will be staying for a while.[/quote]
Cool with me.
My wife is here to keep me company.
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As long as you are healthy and make good money, sure.
Married men are healthier and wealthier than their single peers.
Find the flaw in the implied conclusion.
You can take the premise or the conclusion, works either way.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m always impressed by the raw power of a man afraid to write his naughty words. Fukk yeah, shyt’s real, man!
[/quote]
That was my first reaction too, but I have no doubt in my mind that the author gets laid like tile. [/quote]
Is “getting laid” the ultimate goal when it comes to women?[/quote]
What else is there.
[/quote]
“What else is there?”
Wow, Orion, I am genuinely feeling bad for you.
There is so much more, that is so much more meaningful and so much more profound and lasting.
There are plenty of us who have found this, and we are not all in Asia.
I don’t know what else to say.
What does one tell a slave who asks, “What else is there?” when asked about life on the plantation?[/quote]
What does one tell to the mental patient who insists on living a lie?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I don’t even know where to start. [/quote]
Geez Emily, Give poor O a break! All that talk about liking yourself, confidence, and growing in a relationship probably hurts him at least as much as guys who don’t give a crap about his jihad.
[/quote]
You are right, it bothers me about as much.[/quote]
Ohh! Too cool! Only a page ago you were writing paragraphs about men who don’t give a crap and don’t care about this war of the sexes you are waging.
Now this? What happened in 24 hrs?
[/quote]
Nothing.
You just dont understand the place of cold detachment I am coming from.
[/quote]
Most jail cells are, indeed, cold and detaching – regardless of whether they are meant to keep you in or those who would hurt you out.[/quote]
If that is so, it is also true that I am no longer a slave to the pussay.
Choose your cell, you will be staying for a while.[/quote]
Cool with me.
My wife is here to keep me company.
[/quote]
As long as you are healthy and make good money, sure.
[/quote]
My wife’s father suffered from a serious mental illness later in life, and then 2 strokes that left him unable to speak or move the right side of his body.
This all happened before he retired from his job, and things were financially tight from there on in.
For the next several decades, my mother-in-law cared for and took excellent care of him (sharing the work with my full-time working wife, BTW), even when he was completely bed-ridden. I’m talking 24-hour care for the last 9 years. No way he was going into some facility to be looked after by strangers, my MIL said.
I have absolutely no doubt about my wife having my back, no matter WHAT shape I’m in.
If I had to live with your view of women, I’d likely kill myself.
[/quote]
Which just goes to show how much you are emotionally invested in your view of women.
I would not clip a fingernail if I had your view of them.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m always impressed by the raw power of a man afraid to write his naughty words. Fukk yeah, shyt’s real, man!
[/quote]
That was my first reaction too, but I have no doubt in my mind that the author gets laid like tile. [/quote]
Is “getting laid” the ultimate goal when it comes to women?[/quote]
What else is there.
[/quote]
“What else is there?”
Wow, Orion, I am genuinely feeling bad for you.
There is so much more, that is so much more meaningful and so much more profound and lasting.
There are plenty of us who have found this, and we are not all in Asia.
I don’t know what else to say.
What does one tell a slave who asks, “What else is there?” when asked about life on the plantation?[/quote]
What does one tell to the mental patient who insists on living a lie?[/quote]
So I’m lying, or making all this up?
As are the other men who’ve chimed in?
Then I got nothing else for you, my friend.[/quote]
Lying?
No.
Protecting yourself emotionally, yes.
See post above.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I don’t even know where to start. [/quote]
Geez Emily, Give poor O a break! All that talk about liking yourself, confidence, and growing in a relationship probably hurts him at least as much as guys who don’t give a crap about his jihad.
[/quote]
You are right, it bothers me about as much.[/quote]
Ohh! Too cool! Only a page ago you were writing paragraphs about men who don’t give a crap and don’t care about this war of the sexes you are waging.
Now this? What happened in 24 hrs?
[/quote]
Nothing.
You just dont understand the place of cold detachment I am coming from.
[/quote]
Most jail cells are, indeed, cold and detaching – regardless of whether they are meant to keep you in or those who would hurt you out.[/quote]
If that is so, it is also true that I am no longer a slave to the pussay.
Choose your cell, you will be staying for a while.[/quote]
Cool with me.
My wife is here to keep me company.
[/quote]
As long as you are healthy and make good money, sure.
[/quote]
My wife’s father suffered from a serious mental illness later in life, and then 2 strokes that left him unable to speak or move the right side of his body.
This all happened before he retired from his job, and things were financially tight from there on in.
For the next several decades, my mother-in-law cared for and took excellent care of him (sharing the work with my full-time working wife, BTW), even when he was completely bed-ridden. I’m talking 24-hour care for the last 9 years. No way he was going into some facility to be looked after by strangers, my MIL said.
I have absolutely no doubt about my wife having my back, no matter WHAT shape I’m in.
If I had to live with your view of women, I’d likely kill myself.
[/quote]
Which just goes to show how much you are emotionally invested in your view of women.
I would not clip a fingernail if I had your view of them.[/quote]
Nice skip over the point of my post.
Denial is more than a river in Egypt, eh?[/quote]
I think I explained that a heavy does of internalized cultural indoctrination is neccesary to counter female hypergamy.
Also, you think you can look into a Japanese womans soul?
Are you shitting me?
My money is on she felt glad when he died.
Thats not me being an asshole, thats me living in the real world.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I don’t even know where to start. [/quote]
Geez Emily, Give poor O a break! All that talk about liking yourself, confidence, and growing in a relationship probably hurts him at least as much as guys who don’t give a crap about his jihad.
[/quote]
You are right, it bothers me about as much.[/quote]
Ohh! Too cool! Only a page ago you were writing paragraphs about men who don’t give a crap and don’t care about this war of the sexes you are waging.
Now this? What happened in 24 hrs?
[/quote]
Nothing.
You just dont understand the place of cold detachment I am coming from.
[/quote]
Most jail cells are, indeed, cold and detaching – regardless of whether they are meant to keep you in or those who would hurt you out.[/quote]
If that is so, it is also true that I am no longer a slave to the pussay.
Choose your cell, you will be staying for a while.[/quote]
Cool with me.
My wife is here to keep me company.
[/quote]
As long as you are healthy and make good money, sure.
[/quote]
My wife’s father suffered from a serious mental illness later in life, and then 2 strokes that left him unable to speak or move the right side of his body.
This all happened before he retired from his job, and things were financially tight from there on in.
For the next several decades, my mother-in-law cared for and took excellent care of him (sharing the work with my full-time working wife, BTW), even when he was completely bed-ridden. I’m talking 24-hour care for the last 9 years. No way he was going into some facility to be looked after by strangers, my MIL said.
I have absolutely no doubt about my wife having my back, no matter WHAT shape I’m in.
If I had to live with your view of women, I’d likely kill myself.
[/quote]
Which just goes to show how much you are emotionally invested in your view of women.
I would not clip a fingernail if I had your view of them.[/quote]
Of course not!
My view is one that makes life more pleasant.[/quote]
Truth is what feels right?
Do you have them lady parts?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Ya know, Orion, I’ve seen folks like you before.
You make statements (like, “She’ll leave you once you are poor or sick!” or “It wouldn’t bother me to have your perspective!”) and then when someone provides personal experience or a statement that goes against your claim, you scramble to defend yourself from an angle that ignores your original statement.
As I said, I’ve seen this before, and it typically means that the person has been hurt somewhere along the line, and has constructed some impenetrable, “perfect” explanation of how things work so that they will never be hurt again.
You NEED to believe that you have found the answer, and that answer MUST involve you never being vulnerable to the pain again.
And you have every right to live that way, I guess.
Multitudes of people have lived – and died – alone, convinced that the only other option is to be “used,” “exploited” or “abandoned” by the other sex.
If you want to be one of them, that is your choice.
But from where I sit, you are essentially a coward who hides behind walls and intellectualizes fancy theories about why they are a must…
As long as you are happy, that’s all that counts.
But I’d bet dollars to donuts that you will someday regret having built all those walls.
I think I need a break from you and this discussion.
I’m happy with what I have, whether you believe that or not.
No need to try any further to show you that more than “fuck buddies” and sex via extortion is possible.
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extortion
The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.
Under the Common Law, extortion is a misdemeanor consisting of an unlawful taking of money by a government officer. It is an oppressive misuse of the power with which the law clothes a public officer.
Most jurisdictions have statutes governing extortion that broaden the common-law definition. Under such statutes, any person who takes money or property from another by means of illegal compulsion may be guilty of the offense. When used in this sense, extortion is synonymous with blackmail, which is extortion by a private person. In addition, under some statutes a corporation may be liable for extortion.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m always impressed by the raw power of a man afraid to write his naughty words. Fukk yeah, shyt’s real, man!
[/quote]
That was my first reaction too, but I have no doubt in my mind that the author gets laid like tile. [/quote]
No doubt! All those capital letters. All that scathing scorn for women AND men! Guy is like a pus-oozing wound, why WOULDN’T a nice girl want that??[/quote]
That he may be as dumb as a box of rocks and still outfucks a biochemistry student should give you pause. [/quote]
It doesn’t, though. Not even a little bit. It’s like arguing to me that someone else can get plenty of food…lots and lots of tasty food…but they are limited to McDonald’s and don’t realize that it’s kind of shit food. Tasty maybe, but not THAT tasty and devoid of any nutritional value. People who eat it regularly get pasty and fat, but they figure that’s normal. They probably wonder why I go to all the effort to shop and prep and cook my food. [/quote]
Well put!
BTW, congrats on the new job. Same content?[/quote]
Yes, still community mental health, kids. I think I’m being groomed to be a boss, though, which is odd and unsettling. Not sure that’s a good fit for me, at least preferentially. I like rabble-rousing.
But hopefully it’ll be good. Thanks!
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Of course his experiences have made him insecure. What else? And mine have made me insecure. I’m sure if we allowed it, we could both tip over into bitterness. We choose not to. My ex-husband and I have reasons to feel bitterness toward each other, but we both work to hold it at bay. We’re friends, or at least working in that direction. He’s called when he’s needed support a couple of times recently and I know I could do the same.
There is nothing in the red pill worth having. It is joylessness and loneliness.[/quote]
Nonsense, there are men who try very hard to “game” their wives and often with success.
Why?
Because they love them and their wives love it.
However, this was not about how it makes you feel.
It was about him reading it and his reaction to it.
And that you are afraid of.
Plus, has your ex actually done anything for you?
I bet he has.
You would, possibly, do things for him?
That means you have not.
You are turning him into a beta orbiter.
That is instinctual too. [/quote]
I’m not afraid of his reaction to it, I’m afraid he’ll think I’m an idiot for showing him a screed written by a mouth-foaming misogynist. Just as I would find his judgment questionable if he showed me poorly written political rantings and asked my opinion. Do you remember that bit I quoted back recently, about the wife whose friend took the book banning personally? It was embarrassing in its complete lack of generalizable meaning or accuracy of message. Also, I personally find book-banners narrow and foolish, as he would. This is your messenger, orion. There’s a problem.
My boyfriend is a smart guy with a cynical bent who understands both personally and universally the risks involved in marriage and having children. He’s familiar with the content on the internet, so I am sure he’s come across various pro-male, anti-female stuff. He is also able to form his own judgments, both of the world and the individuals in it.
His pool of friends, like mine, contains long-term happy couples and multiply divorced people. In most cases it’s very easy to see what personal qualities each brings that has impacted the outcome.
As for the stuff about my ex, I’m not sure what you’re saying. We have a long history of doing things for one another. I am not without resources, practical as well as emotional. He’s not nearby, so if I need a heavy box lifted I’m not looking to him. He’s not my beta orbiter, he’s a member of my extended family; someone whose history I’ve shared for a long time. And I make a good friend, in my ex’s case a much better friend than wife, because as a friend I have no expectation of healthy sex, no expectation that we’ll go outside and enjoy the day, no expectation that he’ll deal with his depression.
He doesn’t have to any longer anguish over whether I’m smarter than he is, feel pressured by my desire for a social life, or worry that I’m going to want to talk about money management when he prefers to ignore it and wander around in a state of passive suicidality. And for all those same reasons in reverse, he makes a better friend than husband for me.
There is nothing sinister at play here. You keep assuming that I am jockeying for dominance in these relationships, but I am not. I don’t care about that.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Of course his experiences have made him insecure. What else? And mine have made me insecure. I’m sure if we allowed it, we could both tip over into bitterness. We choose not to. My ex-husband and I have reasons to feel bitterness toward each other, but we both work to hold it at bay. We’re friends, or at least working in that direction. He’s called when he’s needed support a couple of times recently and I know I could do the same.
There is nothing in the red pill worth having. It is joylessness and loneliness.[/quote]
Nonsense, there are men who try very hard to “game” their wives and often with success.
Why?
Because they love them and their wives love it.
However, this was not about how it makes you feel.
It was about him reading it and his reaction to it.
And that you are afraid of.
Plus, has your ex actually done anything for you?
I bet he has.
You would, possibly, do things for him?
That means you have not.
You are turning him into a beta orbiter.
That is instinctual too. [/quote]
I’m not afraid of his reaction to it, I’m afraid he’ll think I’m an idiot for showing him a screed written by a mouth-foaming misogynist. Just as I would find his judgment questionable if he showed me poorly written political rantings and asked my opinion. Do you remember that bit I quoted back recently, about the wife whose friend took the book banning personally? It was embarrassing in its complete lack of generalizable meaning or accuracy of message. Also, I personally find book-banners narrow and foolish, as he would. This is your messenger, orion. There’s a problem.
My boyfriend is a smart guy with a cynical bent who understands both personally and universally the risks involved in marriage and having children. He’s familiar with the content on the internet, so I am sure he’s come across various pro-male, anti-female stuff. He is also able to form his own judgments, both of the world and the individuals in it.
His pool of friends, like mine, contains long-term happy couples and multiply divorced people. In most cases it’s very easy to see what personal qualities each brings that has impacted the outcome.
As for the stuff about my ex, I’m not sure what you’re saying. We have a long history of doing things for one another. I am not without resources, practical as well as emotional. He’s not nearby, so if I need a heavy box lifted I’m not looking to him. He’s not my beta orbiter, he’s a member of my extended family; someone whose history I’ve shared for a long time. And I make a good friend, in my ex’s case a much better friend than wife, because as a friend I have no expectation of healthy sex, no expectation that we’ll go outside and enjoy the day, no expectation that he’ll deal with his depression. He doesn’t have to any longer anguish over whether I’m smarter than he is, feel pressured by my desire for a social life, or worry that I’m going to want to talk about money management when he prefers to ignore it and wander around in a state of passive suicidality. And for all those same reasons in reverse, he makes a better friend than husband for me.
There is nothing sinister at play here. You keep assuming that I am jockeying for dominance in these relationships, but I am not. I don’t care about that. [/quote]
You are noz jockeying for dominance, you are jockeying for dominance in the instinctual hope that you will lose.
You dont want to be on top, but you have to try and fail.
Then, as I said, I posted the link to the most non offending site there is in this area, you did not even look at it.
It is funny how I am the one closed to evidence that would make my views invalid, because I certainly do seek out information that might nuke my preconceived notions.
Stay on the safe side Emily, its where the proper and righteous people live.
I’m amazed by two things about this thread. One is that it is still going. How you people still have stuff to talk about past page 3 is a mystery to me. Are you still making new points or just rehashing the same old shit? I’m not going to read to find out but i am a little curious.
The other is how singles will actually argue this type of stuff with people who are happily in long term relationships. Would you argue with Neil Armstrong about what it’s like on the moon too?
I believe you are from Pgh, Chushin…
showing your age there, bud ;).