#1 Seduction Artist in the World 2012 - Arash Dibazar

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Damn, O; getting a bit attacking there, aren’t ya?

Look: You can rail at people like me all you want.

But the fact of the matter is that I found a good – make that an EXCELLENT – woman, and I didn’t do it by seeing the world in the dark, cynical, untrusting, pessimistic way that you do.

Hey, you’re welcome to your rather unpleasant world view and your “fuck buddies” to whom you are nothing more than a breathing vibrator.

Just don’t try to tell me that I’m somehow “wrong” because I don’t join you in your jihad against women. [/quote]

I agree with this.

The way O is framing all of this reminds me of someone who is no good at math so they blame the numbers.

Intellectually lazy and egotistical to the point of neurotic.
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If you only knew how much I was laughed at in my life and a few short years later people were singing the same tune…

We have something you do not have, we have “game”.

That part is important, because it works.

How could it, if we were wrong?

Its the question Emily has avoided for pages now, so maybe it is not fit for polite company?

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DL/TL

but, I really really like our friend O -

and, think that most of his observations on the opposite sex is spot on.

we just would like to choose not to belive it, is all.

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[quote]Edgy wrote:
DL/TL

but, I really really like our friend O -

and, think that most of his observations on the opposite sex is spot on.

we just would like to choose not to belive it, is all.[/quote]

You only like me because I tell you that you are not insane or misguided, but that what you know in your heart to be true is right.

You do not like me, you like the truth and that is actually an excellent thing to like.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Damn, O; getting a bit attacking there, aren’t ya?

Look: You can rail at people like me all you want.

But the fact of the matter is that I found a good – make that an EXCELLENT – woman, and I didn’t do it by seeing the world in the dark, cynical, untrusting, pessimistic way that you do.

Hey, you’re welcome to your rather unpleasant world view and your “fuck buddies” to whom you are nothing more than a breathing vibrator.

Just don’t try to tell me that I’m somehow “wrong” because I don’t join you in your jihad against women. [/quote]

I agree with this.

The way O is framing all of this reminds me of someone who is no good at math so they blame the numbers.

Intellectually lazy and egotistical to the point of neurotic.
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If you only knew how much I was laughed at in my life and a few short years later people were singing the same tune…

We have something you do not have, we have “game”.

That part is important, because it works.

How could it, if we were wrong?

Its the question Emily has avoided for pages now, so maybe it is not fit for polite company?[/quote]

I wasn’t avoiding, I started a new job this week! And for now it comes with a commute that’s eating up my morning posting time.

Then I spent the weekend with my boyfriend, being lovey-dovey because we like each other, and also hanging out with friends because we’re not embarrassed by one another.

And now I don’t remember what the question was so I’ll have to go back and look.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s beta to fuck a woman you like and respect? I would think it’s just the opposite, because those women would be choosey and go for the mighty alpha. The unwanted skanks, on the other hand…[/quote]

What is that even supposed to mean?

Seriously.

I am not the voices in your head, I cannot speak for them.

Plus, if I could do PMs you would shit yourself.

Skank?

Maybe.

Unwanted…

Yeah, right…

A 9.

A 9, I say…

You did not answer my question though, how come what I believe in works for me?

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Ah, here it is, the avoided question.

The answer is that it only works for you to the extent it does, which to my way of thinking is very limited. There’s a whole world out there that I don’t think you know anything about. I think you exemplify the Thomas theorem, which states that “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.”

I realize that you keep accusing me of the very same, but I, and others who believe as I do, report positive outcome while you are disheartened and disappointed in the world around you. So do you achieve your goals (i.e. get laid)? Yes. But do you have what you ultimately want, which would seem to be relief from this awful entrenched position you’ve put yourself in? No.

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[quote]The dynamics of the whole mens rights and Pua movement are interesting insofar as any man who actually does speak up and says that he got a rotten deal is automatically seen as a loser.

Women can whine in public all day long and people will listen, if men do that all they get is contempt and derision. [/quote]

Meh, I don’t know. I don’t think people much want to hear it from women, either, unless there is an agenda involved.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s beta to fuck a woman you like and respect? I would think it’s just the opposite, because those women would be choosey and go for the mighty alpha. The unwanted skanks, on the other hand…[/quote]

What is that even supposed to mean?

Seriously.

I am not the voices in your head, I cannot speak for them.

Plus, if I could do PMs you would shit yourself.

Skank?

Maybe.

Unwanted…

Yeah, right…

A 9.

A 9, I say…

You did not answer my question though, how come what I believe in works for me?

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Ah, here it is, the avoided question.

The answer is that it only works for you to the extent it does, which to my way of thinking is very limited. There’s a whole world out there that I don’t think you know anything about. I think you exemplify the Thomas theorem, which states that “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.”

I realize that you keep accusing me of the very same, but I, and others who believe as I do, report positive outcome while you are disheartened and disappointed in the world around you. So do you achieve your goals (i.e. get laid)? Yes. But do you have what you ultimately want, which would seem to be relief from this awful entrenched position you’ve put yourself in? No.

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No worries, I just have an 18 year old girl masturbating for me on OK Cupid.

I want you to take a long hard look at my profile.

Also, what are you wearing?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s beta to fuck a woman you like and respect? I would think it’s just the opposite, because those women would be choosey and go for the mighty alpha. The unwanted skanks, on the other hand…[/quote]

What is that even supposed to mean?

Seriously.

I am not the voices in your head, I cannot speak for them.

Plus, if I could do PMs you would shit yourself.

Skank?

Maybe.

Unwanted…

Yeah, right…

A 9.

A 9, I say…

You did not answer my question though, how come what I believe in works for me?

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Ah, here it is, the avoided question.

The answer is that it only works for you to the extent it does, which to my way of thinking is very limited. There’s a whole world out there that I don’t think you know anything about. I think you exemplify the Thomas theorem, which states that “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.”

I realize that you keep accusing me of the very same, but I, and others who believe as I do, report positive outcome while you are disheartened and disappointed in the world around you. So do you achieve your goals (i.e. get laid)? Yes. But do you have what you ultimately want, which would seem to be relief from this awful entrenched position you’ve put yourself in? No.

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No worries, I just have an 18 year old girl masturbating for me on OK Cupid.

I want you to take a long hard look at my profile.

Also, what are you wearing?[/quote]

Can’t you tell?

That’s “self-respect” that she’s got on.[/quote]

The girl I am just messaging is a corn fed, totally inexperienced, all American darling.

A virgin.

I had her diddling herself with the exact profile I posted.

I dont know how to put this, but, HOW COME THAT SHIT WORKS?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
It’s beta to fuck a woman you like and respect? I would think it’s just the opposite, because those women would be choosey and go for the mighty alpha. The unwanted skanks, on the other hand…[/quote]

What is that even supposed to mean?

Seriously.

I am not the voices in your head, I cannot speak for them.

Plus, if I could do PMs you would shit yourself.

Skank?

Maybe.

Unwanted…

Yeah, right…

A 9.

A 9, I say…

You did not answer my question though, how come what I believe in works for me?

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Ah, here it is, the avoided question.

The answer is that it only works for you to the extent it does, which to my way of thinking is very limited. There’s a whole world out there that I don’t think you know anything about. I think you exemplify the Thomas theorem, which states that “If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences.”

I realize that you keep accusing me of the very same, but I, and others who believe as I do, report positive outcome while you are disheartened and disappointed in the world around you. So do you achieve your goals (i.e. get laid)? Yes. But do you have what you ultimately want, which would seem to be relief from this awful entrenched position you’ve put yourself in? No.

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No worries, I just have an 18 year old girl masturbating for me on OK Cupid.

I want you to take a long hard look at my profile.

Also, what are you wearing?[/quote]

Can’t you tell?

That’s “self-respect” that she’s got on.[/quote]

The girl I am just messaging is a corn fed, totally inexperienced, all American darling.

A virgin.

I had her diddling herself with the exact profile I posted.

I dont know how to put this, but, HOW COME THAT SHIT WORKS?
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Because many people have problems / issues.

Question: Do you think you leave women better for having known you?
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They can be.

I can led the horse to water, but I cannot make it drink.

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Also, I posted the profile, I could even post the conversation, which, I must say, was me on my best game, but you would still insist that she is fucked in the head.

Alright…

What would I have to do to convince you that I have a point.

Try me.

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Soooo…

Enders Game and the Princess Bride.

Well, you do keep quality male company.

There is no way you stumbled over this yourself, but at the very least you know quality when you see it.

Kudos!

Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:22am
It’s just what I grew up with. 80s stuff. I love it :)Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:36am
Big brothers?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:39am
Nope. I’m close with my father. Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:41am
Damn.

Religious?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:42am
Not one bit.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 12:48am
Damn.

You refuse to fit into my neat little boxes, dont you?

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:12am
I don’t appreciate misogynists. Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:25am
Did you not get the part where I was just really, really sexist!?!

Also, my misogyny is a polite one from a safe distance.

So, whats not to appreciate?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:32am
You kinds of people don’t typically treat women rightSent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:37am
Really?

How many of “my kind of people” have you met?

My bet is one.

And I am treating you just fine.
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:41am
You’re right I don’t know anyone except you. It just has a terrible connotation :stuck_out_tongue: just don’t go all berserk on me… Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:44am
What could I possibly do to you?

Plus, you are 18, you have impeccable taste and probably have respect for your father.

Trust me, there are more worthy targets.

Lots and lots and lots of them.

Or did you think all women are innocent angels!?!

O_o !?!
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:49am
Not all of women are innocent…but not all men aren’t either and sometimes a girl like myself has got to be careful, I don’t know you. Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 1:56am
I am in Vienna, Austria.

There is no way that we could meet… alright, there would be, but it would be expensive and trying.

Dont send me nudes and all will be well.

Also, its not sometimes but always and I am one of the not so innocent men.

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:01am
I thought you were joking when your profile said that. So why did you wanna talk to me then? What makes you not so innocent?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:09am
No, I really wasnt.

What makes me want to talk to you?

Thats complicated, but you have to understand that noone is born a misogynist. We are made.

Guess by whom?

You just seem like a sweet girl. You are fluffy in a way, I know, that is not what you want to hear, but trust me, it is something to cherish, because it is rare.

What makes me not so innocent is that I act like most women instictively do.
Meaning, I am cold, calculating and utterly without pity, but, while they do it instinctively, I do it in a calibrated manner.

That makes me either better or worse, depends on who you ask.
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:14am
You’re so different. I think I like the way you talk. No one has ever spoken to me like that. I try hard to be sweet and to care for people. I always help people with their problems and stuff like that. What is fluffy supposed to mean?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:20am
Fluffy?

Wide eyed innocence maybe?

A kind heart?

Also, I am talking to you like I would to any other adult.

We misogynists tend to do that.

Hence the hate.
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:25am
If that’s your definition of fluffy I’m pretty fluffy then. Like my little bunny rabbit :3 I like the way you talk to me.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:28am
How am I talking to youß
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:31am
I don’t know but I like it. Keep doing it hahaSent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:46am
Am I to entertain you?

You just have a hankering for them bad boy misogynists…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:49am
I don’t know it kind of turns me on…Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:53am
Ah…

There is nothing I can do about that though,…

You, however, can…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 2:55am
What can I do?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:00am
Take care of your business like a grown woman would?

Need directions?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:01am
Yes please.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:06am
Alright.

Did I mention I was one of the not so innocent guys?

What are you wearing?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:07am
Just a tank top and pj pants. It’s what I sleep in.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:10am
If you were to make your fingers wet, put them under your tank top and circle your nipples, what would that feel like?

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:11am
Well should I do that? I don’t know what it would feel like…I’ve never really touched my body but I have urges…a lot.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:14am
I really cannot tell you what you should do, but you are in a unique position to find out what its like.
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:16am
What would one do if they wanted to put there fingers some place maybe lower? Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:18am
One would not be impatient and do as I say.

Naughty girl!

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:20am
I’m sorry I just want more pleasure :frowning: I can feel something happening down there and I want to find out.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:24am
Take your hands, imagine their mine and caress your breast,

Circle your nipples, pinch them, softly.

Imagine a guy with shit eating grin, slowly torturing you by building up you desire…

Dont worry, we will get there…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:25am
Okay. Ill do whatever I’m told. Or at least try to anywaysSent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:27am
Are your nipples getting hard?

Do you squirm in your seat, aching for more?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:30am
Yes they’re hard alright. I really want to touch something else. Please. I’m in bed btw. Should I call you master?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:35am
Yes.

You can take one hand and start stroking your inner thighs.

Once, or twice you can rub yourself where you really want it, but dont dare slipping your hands beneath your PJs…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:40am
I don’t know if I can stop once I’ve started…Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:43am
You are a girl badly in need of some discipline.

Fortunately, you are very spankable…

Also, “I don’t know if I can stop once I’ve started…” WHAT!?!
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:45am
I have a pretty nice butt for spanking :3 and well you told me I could touch myself where I wanted once or twice. I did it a lil more than once or twice Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:47am
I would like to see the butt that I would spank into all being all hot and bothered…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:47am
I don’t know how to show it. What should I do next?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:50am
Now you slowly slide a hand into your PJs and slowly start to rub where its warm… and moist… and inviting…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:51am
Go inside or? Stay on the outside?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:52am
Rub…

Only… massage it…thoroughly…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:54am
One spot feels funny >.<Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:57am
Really?

Maybe you should stick one finger in your mouth, make it wet and explore that spot?

Who knows what you might find?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 3:58am
Should I have to? That area is already pretty wet…I guess either in anticipation or from my nipples… But yeah okay ill explore it :3Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:00am
So, what did you find?

And you are to adress me as Master.
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:02am
Yes, Master. It feels kind of good on one part put if I touch it directly…it makes my legs sort of twitch I guess. It’s kind of weird and scary that it does that to my legs and its such a tiny little thing.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:07am
Well, at least sometimes, the tiniest pressure can make a big difference…

Slide two fingers in your pussy girl, dont be greedy, take it slow…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:09am
My face is getting hot >.< my pussy even hotter.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:11am
Are you getting all flushed?

You face, your breasts, you thighs even?

Do you feel like the only thing that could bring you down is a good, hard fuck?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:13am
Yes Master I need it. I need to be fucked. I need to be stripped of my virginity. My whole body is heated and ready.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:15am
I’m sorry I got greedy. I went really fast and I couldn’t stop, but Master it felt so good.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:17am
Then I want you to plunge your fingers in there and fuck yourself like I would.

Imagine me towering over you, taking your virginity without a care, stopping your groans of delight by a soft but firm kiss…

Can you feel me taking you? Can you feel my tongue exploring your mouth?
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:18am
Well, looks like you already did what I told you…
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:22am
I wish you really could fuck me. I don’t know how to make myself…get to that moment and its killing me here just playing with myself not being able to do itSent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:27am
Get to what moment?

Getting fucked?

Girl, that is not your job.

Your job is to be kind to guys that do not make the cut.

If you dont know how to come, practice, practice, practice…

Plus, have you forgotten what a bad rep people like me have?

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:28am
Well I guess I need lots of practice. And I don’t care what kind of rep that is. I think I like it.Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:33am
Yeah well, if you werent so fast and decisive when it comes to you touching yourself maybe it would be easier.

Message me if you want to try again, I am going to sleep now.

Plus, a pic of your very spankable derriere would be welcome.

Dont worry, nobody would recognize it, even if I put it on the web, which I would not.

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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:34am
How could I send it to you?Sent from the OkCupid app
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Jan 28, 2013 ? 4:42am
Ok Cupid wont let you embed pictures?

How barbarian.

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Roybot, eat your heart out.

Unless of course, I made that up too, however, the evidence suggests that I just too darn lazy to clean up the fluff.

She is a genuinely nice girl though, I just gave her the alpha tingles in a bad way.

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And no you pervs, you will not get to see a pic of her butt.

Troll your own virgin.

Ah, thats right, you dont know how…

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She’s not a virgin.

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She’s not a virgin.[/quote]

Maybe not.

Since I did this while watching a movie, my emotional investment is rather limited.

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Wow. Yeah. That’s no virgin.

Which makes me question both “18” and “female,” much less “cornfed.” But enjoy your fantasy.

You know, from the very first time I met my guy I’ve done every single thing wrong according to your methods, and so has he. I was having so much fun on our first date that I said “sure!” to a second bottle of wine and then to one more glass after that, and got completely wasted. Over the course of that evening I told him every single one of my most private secrets, informed him that I liked him so much, did immoderate things in a car in the parking lot (no sex) and then had to be driven home with a stop to throw up.

Because I was a lot of fun on the way to drunk (and my secrets are interesting) and because he liked the way I felt in the car, we went out again later that week, during which I was very well behaved. Sort of. I was sober, at any rate. Of course, he had some knowledge of me before we went out that first night. I don’t think there was ever any real question that I’m a drunk or a floozy. Still.

I’ve known all along that he’s crazy about me. He knows that I adore him. If there are games, they are of the unintentional sort. I’ve started the new job, which is near him. This week I had a giant freakout over whether I’d made a mistake because I convinced myself that he was feeling suffocated and didn’t know how to tell me. So I got all weird and suffocated myself, and bolted one morning when we were supposed to go to breakfast.

Then I changed my mind and decided to behave normally because I wasn’t positive about the suffocation and didn’t want to be in a fight because those are sad and lonely. But he was distant and cool because he felt I should explain myself. So I decided he was giving me the silent treatment, realized I’d been right all along about him feeling suffocated, and decided to break up. But then of course I missed him.

Idiocy is not manipulation. In the end, I suppose I was looking for reassurance, which I got once I was able to talk about what happened, so it could perhaps be called a shittest, but coldly calculating? Ha, no. ALL of our fights have been based in being fearful of how much we like each other, and one of us feeling vulnerable as a result. They’ve also all been the lead-in to a conversation that increased intimacy or commitment. But these are big decisions, and wise people make them carefully and with a lot of thought. We’re on our way to serious stuff, talking about combining our lives. It’s frightening.

So again, I don’t deny much of what you say. YES, there are tests, but they come from both sides. YES, women want men they can’t control (but who will control themselves). YES, women want successful men. Where I disagree with you is in your takeaway. Your mistrust of women has distorted your thinking and turned healthy, natural behavior into something sinister.

Embittered women do it, too. In either case, it’s sad. Sad that they’ve endured events that hurt them and sad that their embitterment is going to continue to disadvantage them.

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Why is a grown men doing all that crap and posting it on a forum? I am half your age and I think you are pathetic and childish. I feel ashamed just reading this through my computer. You are in personnal bankrupt.