[quote]Makavali wrote:
I’m pretty sure he denied using steroids fyi.[/quote]
He was australian, u can never trust that mob of lying bastards! LOL.
Shame he died, to young too, at least he trained.
He got one thing right though, I agree with the fact that if you are “shredded”, you can do “anything u want” and look more awesome. WHile partying and trolling is nice, and it just makes it that much funnier to troll and easier to get laid if you are shredded, why does everything that fall under “living life to the fullest”, and “doing whatever you want because I don’t care about what you think” has to always come down to that?
There are plenty of things u can do with a nice physique. And in fact, it’s much more interesting to do things OTHER than partying and fucking hoes and flexing at the camera with a nice physique because those endeavors are almost a “given”.
too normal. Too boring. Not enough contradiction there.
Try singing opera while weighing 250 pounds of muscles. now THAT"S AWESOME.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
How dumb are you guys??
“Yeah I outweigh zyzz and I’m NATURAL…I don’t know why he had to take drugs”
Frank Zane competed at 187-195…Whoa I weigh that much–so I should look as good as he did, right?!
Steroids give you an entirely different look, completely independent of weight. You just can’t get that “look” as a natural…so stop talking about how your physique is, or is going to be, as good as his. It just won’t happen.[/quote]
Tbh, if I didn’t know better, I wouldn’t think this kid was on roids. I don’t know what your talking about with this “steroids look”, but if someone showed a picture of Zyzz to me and said he got here after 5 years naturally, I’d believe it.
Funny how we’re being called the haters when it’s you guys who keep saying we’ll never look as good as someone with a BMI of 27.7 @ <8% body fat as though such an achievement is simply impossible without taking enough steroids to kill off a 22 year old. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure he denied using steroids fyi.[/quote]
Pretty sure he didnt’t. At least not once hed been caught, charged, plead guilty, and consequently fined for possession of anabolic steroids.
I would Much rather look like Serge Nubret at 66, than Zyzz at 22. If this Zyzz guy inspires you, good for you. I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.
I think someone in this thread mentioned this before;Zyzz single handily killed trance. Seriously. Trance used to be cool and creative and fun and then all these douchebags and brotards started listening to it and not its not as special as it once was.
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
X2
HEY LOOK, I’m agreeing with YOU!
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
This is who you look up to? This is who you idolize? This is a person you want to emulate? A self-absorbed hubristc narcissit whos only accomplishments are looking better than 90% of people and having a cult following of idiot internet fanboys?
That is a fucking joke, and is to the detriment of society.
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
looking better than 90% of people
[/quote]
You do realize you are in a website where looking better than 90% of the people around us is the goal right?
[quote]Hellfrost wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
looking better than 90% of people
[/quote]
You do realize you are in a website where looking better than 90% of the people around us is the goal right?[/quote]
Sure, if you plan on competing, or if your motivation is just to look better than everyone.
I lift to be stronger than I was the day before. I have no use for going around dick measuring all the time.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
X2
HEY LOOK, I’m agreeing with YOU![/quote]
Noooooooo–
Well played, good sir!
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
This is who you look up to? This is who you idolize? This is a person you want to emulate?
[/quote]
Read better.
You don’t have to agree with his methods or aspire to be his carbon copy, but to dismiss his results or success because you don’t like the guy for whatever reason is fucking moronic.
He knew how to play the game and capitalized on it.
Again, what have YOU accomplished that is comparable?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
How dumb are you guys??
“Yeah I outweigh zyzz and I’m NATURAL…I don’t know why he had to take drugs”
Frank Zane competed at 187-195…Whoa I weigh that much–so I should look as good as he did, right?!
Steroids give you an entirely different look, completely independent of weight. You just can’t get that “look” as a natural…so stop talking about how your physique is, or is going to be, as good as his. It just won’t happen.[/quote]
Tbh, if I didn’t know better, I wouldn’t think this kid was on roids. I don’t know what your talking about with this “steroids look”, but if someone showed a picture of Zyzz to me and said he got here after 5 years naturally, I’d believe it.
Funny how we’re being called the haters when it’s you guys who keep saying we’ll never look as good as someone with a BMI of 27.7 @ <8% body fat as though such an achievement is simply impossible without taking enough steroids to kill off a 22 year old. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure he denied using steroids fyi.[/quote]
Do you even believe that?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Do you even believe that?[/quote]
Pretty sure I saw a pic of one of his buddies sticking him in the glute.
There’s a rumor he had an injection there shortly after.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
This is who you look up to? This is who you idolize? This is a person you want to emulate?
[/quote]
Read better.
You don’t have to agree with his methods or aspire to be his carbon copy, but to dismiss his results or success because you don’t like the guy for whatever reason is fucking moronic.
He knew how to play the game and capitalized on it.
Again, what have YOU accomplished that is comparable?[/quote]
Read better.
I am saying his accomplishments are trivial and nothing to be proud of. Not dismissing what he actually accomplished. Nice try.
And asking what I have accomplished is just deflection, so, nice try again.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
I don’t deny that he accomplished a lot by his own standards. I just don’t think the comparisons to Arnold were justified.
As I said, good for him. He led the life he wanted to. He fulfilled his own definition of success.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
It’s not that I don’t recognize his success, it’s that he paid (in my opinion) a stupidly irrational price to get it.
Even if it takes me until I’m 30 to achieve the level of wealth and aesthetics he achieved (it won’t), I would still take that deal over having those things now, but be dead at 22.
If you guys would take that deal, fine, but that’s certainly not what I would want out of life.
If calling something “trivial and nothing to be proud of” is NOT dismissive, then apparently i no longer know the English language
[quote]Aggv wrote:
If calling something “trivial and nothing to be proud of” is NOT dismissive, then apparently i no longer know the English language [/quote]
Maybe he had actually given serious consideration to the fact that, at 22, zyzz was both relatively famous, wealthy, with his own line of protein supplements, with aesthetics better than a majority of the population… and then thoughtfully concluded that those are all trivial accomplishments.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
If calling something “trivial and nothing to be proud of” is NOT dismissive, then apparently i no longer know the English language [/quote]
Sorry, let me rephrase
I acknowledge what he accomplished, but find it mostly trivial.