[quote]Anonymity wrote:
And asking what I have accomplished is just deflection, so, nice try again.[/quote]
I would disagree. I’ve found that people who are successful are generally not so quick to shit on others who successfully pursued their dreams as basement-dwelling neckbeards are.
Or, at least, they are willing to acknowledge the end even if they don’t necessarily agree with the means.
But nice try with the evasion.
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
I don’t deny that he accomplished a lot by his own standards. I just don’t think the comparisons to Arnold were justified.
As I said, good for him. He led the life he wanted to. He fulfilled his own definition of success. [/quote]
I think the issue with Arnold is that most of the younger generation can’t relate to him. He had a fantastic body, but let’s face it, none of us can ever even come close to what he achieved. The Zyzz character is something that most introverts sitting in front of a computer can relate. If you have ever read one of Arnolds books, he was literally born looking awesome, and was sleeping with women at the age of 16.
I just don’t see how anyone can actually relate to Arnold now a days.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
If calling something “trivial and nothing to be proud of” is NOT dismissive, then apparently i no longer know the English language [/quote]
Maybe he had actually given serious consideration to the fact that, at 22, zyzz was both relatively famous, wealthy, with his own line of protein supplements, with aesthetics better than a majority of the population… and then thoughtfully concluded that those are all trivial accomplishments.[/quote]
Yet again my point is raised. The only defense you have for idolization of this man is fame, wealth and looks.
I do not have a problem with him personally, I have a problem with the idolization of such vain and materialistic characteristics.
People have chosen the man as a role model, a person to post legacy threads about, despite the fact that outside of those accomplishments he seemed to be a person of quite low character.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
And asking what I have accomplished is just deflection, so, nice try again.[/quote]
I would disagree. I’ve found that people who are successful are generally not so quick to shit on others who successfully pursued their dreams as basement-dwelling neckbeards are.
Or, at least, they are willing to acknowledge the end even if they don’t necessarily agree with the means.
But nice try with the evasion.[/quote]
What to do when you can’t make a valid on-topic argument anymore: deflect, assume character, attack assumed character.
LOL
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
I don’t deny that he accomplished a lot by his own standards. I just don’t think the comparisons to Arnold were justified.
[/quote]
+1
Holy christ, some genuinely terrible and childish people in this topic.
So insecure. ‘He didn’t accomplish anything, wah wah wah, I weigh more, wah wah wah’
Holy FUCK this is pathetic.
[quote]anonym wrote:
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.[/quote]
This.
‘WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THINGS I DON’T LIKE, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH’
I agree we can’t compare him to Arnold on various achievements, but only perhaps in the numbers of those he inspired within his generation.
I’d love to be structured and built like Zyzz, but I’d MUCH rather be built like Arnold in his prime.
Wouldn’t that be zyzz plus some weight? (and a bit taller)
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Wouldn’t that be zyzz plus some weight? (and a bit taller) [/quote]
You might be right.
But of course potential means nothing until achieved.
True, but everyone has to start somewhere.
[quote]Hellfrost wrote:
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
I don’t deny that he accomplished a lot by his own standards. I just don’t think the comparisons to Arnold were justified.
As I said, good for him. He led the life he wanted to. He fulfilled his own definition of success. [/quote]
I think the issue with Arnold is that most of the younger generation can’t relate to him. He had a fantastic body, but let’s face it, none of us can ever even come close to what he achieved. The Zyzz character is something that most introverts sitting in front of a computer can relate. If you have ever read one of Arnolds books, he was literally born looking awesome, and was sleeping with women at the age of 16.
I just don’t see how anyone can actually relate to Arnold now a days.
[/quote]
That’s a fair point about Arnold. It’s probably why he never seemed to have any self-doubt.
How do you think people of the younger generation relate to Zyzz? Serious question. I’m 21, and I don’t relate to him. I fully acknowledge that I may be an atypical 21 year old in some respects, so perhaps that’s why I don’t see it.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
True, but everyone has to start somewhere. [/quote]
True, but that’s not what I was saying. For all I know, Zyzz reached his goal of how he envisioned himself to look. If so, mission accomplished.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Defiance wrote:
I aspire to be great, not mediocre, and I am enjoying the process.[/quote]
Famous
Wealthy
Cult following
Looks better than 90% of the posters on this site
Mediocre
Cool story, bro.
I enjoy how some people, rather than just admit he accomplished a lot but that the things he did don’t necessarily appeal to them, instead do everything they can to trivialize his success at such a young age.
How old are all of you, and what have you all done that is attention-worthy?[/quote]
Exactly! I just don’t think his death was a tragedy. I mean I feel horrible for his family and friends. But you can only play with fire so many times before you get burned.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
True, but everyone has to start somewhere. [/quote]
True, but that’s not what I was saying. For all I know, Zyzz reached his goal of how he envisioned himself to look. If so, mission accomplished.
:)[/quote]
Speaking strictly about myself, Muscle is like horsepower or money; there is never enough.