[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can honestly say though that my actions were an attempt to motivate people, not dissuade from reaching for the best.[/quote]
This has always been obvious to me.
Though I never served in the military, I did have a professor in art school who was relentless in how he’d break a student down. Those who couldn’t recover from his scrutiny usually dropped out or failed to make a career of art after school. Those who “got him” (like me) soared.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can honestly say though that my actions were an attempt to motivate people, not dissuade from reaching for the best.[/quote]
This has always been obvious to me.
Though I never served in the military, I did have a professor in art school who was relentless in how he’d break a student down. Those who couldn’t recover from his scrutiny usually dropped out or failed to make a career of art after school. Those who “got him” (like me) soared.
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I think it is obvious to anyone actually reading the words written, but as we can see, many just look for certain words or just read the title of a thread and then unload emotionally based on stereotypes and assumptions. While predictable, in the long run, those stereotypes and assumptions become spread as “the truth”…which is why anyone here would think I recommend eating fast food all day or why some actually think I have spent years just degrading people…both completely false assumptions based on more of an emotional response than reality.
“He thinks he is bigger than Rockel” gets wrung out of “I hope my back is about that size now”…one a statement hoping I had reached a certain level of size before I had even taken a picture of my back…and the other some ludicrous exaggeration meant to make it seem like I thought I was a pro bodybuilder already. People largely see what they want…but the truth is, I already knew this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can honestly say though that my actions were an attempt to motivate people, not dissuade from reaching for the best.[/quote]
This has always been obvious to me.
Though I never served in the military, I did have a professor in art school who was relentless in how he’d break a student down. Those who couldn’t recover from his scrutiny usually dropped out or failed to make a career of art after school. Those who “got him” (like me) soared.
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I think it is obvious to anyone actually reading the words written, but as we can see, many just look for certain words or just read the title of a thread and then unload emotionally based on stereotypes and assumptions. While predictable, in the long run, those stereotypes and assumptions become spread as “the truth”…which is why anyone here would think I recommend eating fast food all day or why some actually think I have spent years just degrading people…both completely false assumptions based on more of an emotional response than reality.
“He thinks he is bigger than Rockel” gets wrung out of “I hope my back is about that size now”…one a statement hoping I had reached a certain level of size before I had even taken a picture of my back…and the other some ludicrous exaggeration meant to make it seem like I thought I was a pro bodybuilder already. People largely see what they want…but the truth is, I already knew this.[/quote]
Dude, I don’t want to turn this into a giant debate about you (though I’m sure you’d love that), but nobody is sitting around thinking about how to attack Professor X next. You post stuff that rubs people the wrong way and they respond.
Have you ever though that since everybody has a problem with you, maybe the issue is isn’t them, it’s you?
Since you’ve “decided to change” after the To Professor X thread, you’ve gone from openly attacking people to the kind of passive aggressive BS you just posted.
What I’m trying to say is, JUST BE COOL MAN. I KNOW YOUVE GOT IT IN YOU.
Like I said, no matter what gets typed…
I am assuming the last post “rubbed someone the wrong way”.
If so, it is clear this is unavoidable.
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can honestly say though that my actions were an attempt to motivate people, not dissuade from reaching for the best.[/quote]
This has always been obvious to me.
Though I never served in the military, I did have a professor in art school who was relentless in how he’d break a student down. Those who couldn’t recover from his scrutiny usually dropped out or failed to make a career of art after school. Those who “got him” (like me) soared.
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I think it is obvious to anyone actually reading the words written, but as we can see, many just look for certain words or just read the title of a thread and then unload emotionally based on stereotypes and assumptions. While predictable, in the long run, those stereotypes and assumptions become spread as “the truth”…which is why anyone here would think I recommend eating fast food all day or why some actually think I have spent years just degrading people…both completely false assumptions based on more of an emotional response than reality.
“He thinks he is bigger than Rockel” gets wrung out of “I hope my back is about that size now”…one a statement hoping I had reached a certain level of size before I had even taken a picture of my back…and the other some ludicrous exaggeration meant to make it seem like I thought I was a pro bodybuilder already. People largely see what they want…but the truth is, I already knew this.[/quote]
Dude, I don’t want to turn this into a giant debate about you (though I’m sure you’d love that), but nobody is sitting around thinking about how to attack Professor X next. You post stuff that rubs people the wrong way and they respond.
Have you ever though that since everybody has a problem with you, maybe the issue is isn’t them, it’s you?
Since you’ve “decided to change” after the To Professor X thread, you’ve gone from openly attacking people to the kind of passive aggressive BS you just posted.
What I’m trying to say is, JUST BE COOL MAN. I KNOW YOUVE GOT IT IN YOU.[/quote]
I’ve seen Prof. X, Bonez, etc. in the beginners forum. The way they post may offend people, but I think it’s the way to go. Wake up call, straight to the point, etc.
If they didn’t want to help or they wanted to annoy, I’m sure they wouldn’t even bother posting in that forum.
I am going to write this and see what it leads to.
I openly apologize to anyone who even remotely thinks anything I have written is in an effort to slow anyone down. My goal was to motivate others which in turn helps motivate me. I haven’t attacked anyone in this thread. I am stating clearly that my goal is to move in a positive direction.
I don’t really care what many think…at least not anymore. I have too many other goals at this point and that type of thinking does nothing but slow progress.
If that rubs someone the wrong way, that guy in the mirror may need some work too.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I’ve seen Prof. X, Bonez, etc. in the beginners forum. The way they post may offend people, but I think it’s the way to go. Wake up call, straight to the point, etc.
If they didn’t want to help or they wanted to annoy, I’m sure they wouldn’t even bother posting in that forum.[/quote]
That beginners forum used just be combined with the bodybuilding forum. I think I spent a good 5 straight years responding to newbs before they separated it.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
But there is some good news on the horizon… Justin Bieber will be turning Pro very shortly.[/quote]
This pic is just so…wrong,and disturbing too
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I’ve seen Prof. X, Bonez, etc. in the beginners forum. The way they post may offend people, but I think it’s the way to go. Wake up call, straight to the point, etc.
If they didn’t want to help or they wanted to annoy, I’m sure they wouldn’t even bother posting in that forum.[/quote]
That beginners forum used just be combined with the bodybuilding forum. I think I spent a good 5 straight years responding to newbs before they separated it.[/quote]
It’s also logical that beginners would have more questions. There’s lots to learn and sometimes you need some specific help. It’s also good for motivation, to have some questions and have some big dudes answering you.
I never heard of this guy. I don’t care about this guy. Fwiw.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DTP88 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DTP88 wrote:
All I have to say Prof X is if you can tell me you had lived your life and were ready to die by 23 then you win. Nothing tragic about this. [/quote]
That wasn’t what I said. Anyone can SAY they are ready for death, but no one really is ready for the discontinuation of all things they experience in this existence. That goes for 40 year olds just like it goes for those who are 23. Why are you making some distinction based on him being 23? Most of the soldiers killed in Iraq were younger than that I imagine.
My point was that I grew up around death. It wasn’t some distant concept that ONLY happened to people over 40. It was happening to kids my age at EIGHT YEARS OLD.
I think some of you have been sheltered in the sense that you really still see yourselves as “kids” even though you already grew up.[/quote]
So those kids dying at 8… Wasn’t tragic? Being around death might of dulled it’s affect on you, but to me kids dying in Iraq is tragic… As is Az’s death. It’s an opinion, just like yours is that it’s not tragic… But anyway, we’re doing exactly what my post was intended to stop, so I’ll bow out :)[/quote]
What? How many remarks do you plan on making that aren’t about what was actually written?
8 years old is still a kid.
23 years old is a grown man.
How do you not see the difference there?
The point is, if you can volunteer to die in the military at the age of 18, don’t come on claiming it is tragic that a “23 year old” died just because they were 23. That doesn’t make sense.
Why compare an 8 year old to that as if my point wasn’t clear?
I mentioned “8” to give you the understanding that I never considered death to be something that ONLY happened to people of a certain age, nothing more.
Look, I know you are having a hard time coming up with logical solid arguments against what is written, but you can do better than this.[/quote]
Your words hurt me sir. Ouch!
Seems like this is “attacking someone in this thread”: “Look, I know you are having a hard time coming up with logical solid arguments against what is written, but you can do better than this” , but maybe you meant it constructively, to motivate.
There’s no “logical solid arguments” to come up with, because me thinking it’s tragic is an opinion, as you thinking it’s not tragic is again an opinion.
Please try to wrap your mind around that, there’s no need to respond anymore. The threads about remembering a fellow meathead that passed, not you or me.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO say it aint so
When you hear thunder, don’t be alarmed. It’s just zyzz deadlifting. RIP BRAH MIRRIN
Not sure if this relates directly to the discussions here but I’ll chip in my 2 cents about this life/death situation under a different light.
Every life can be considered “full”. Let me explain.
Usually we view death as being nearer than yesterday as if we are given a quota called LIFE by viewing it as a substance that we USE UP with time as we age. Each day that passes by, we use up more of this life-stuff and move closer to death. It is also interesting to note that people seem to always have a notion of an entitled generalized lifespan. Meaning that most people think they somehow have a sort of a right to live to a certain age, and that if they do not reach that self-proclaimed age, they consider their lives to be incomplete.
For instance, most people would consider somebody’s life to be more COMPLETE if he gets to live to be 90 than say, somebody who died at the age of 22 like Zyzz did. And most tend to think that someone who died at 22 is “tragic”, where the 90 year old isn’t since the person who died at 90 lived a more complete life because he filled up more of his life bucket, where the 22 year old lived a less COMPLETE life because he didn’t use up his expected life quotas like he should have.
But a person does not really have a life quota to begin with. We are not like prisoners who are waiting for execution, with the date and time of death written down already. People of course, live for a certain number of days. But since the exact date of your death is unknown and unpredicted, we don’t need to think we are moving closer to death with each passing day.
The date of your death is always in constant state of flux. Everything that you do, and everything that happens to you through out life pushes or pulls that date further or closer from you. If you spend the next week fucking prostitutes and eating McDonalds every meal, then you are probably pulling that date closer to you, than say, if you spend that week sitting at home, eating vegetables and carrots.
Likewise, if you have a high fever now, death is probably closer to you now than after your recovery. Even a condemned prisoner who is expected to be executed tomorrow can suddenly die of an accidental death today. So, a person does not experience finite as such, and he does not experience himself as progressing towards nothingness. Death is an unknown element that is always up for grasps, and what we do with our lives are merely means to play around with that date, tossing it around, making it closer or further away from you.
Since the date of our death is never set in stone, we really donâ??t have a clear idea how “complete” our lives are. It is only with a fixed date of death as a frame of reference that we determine how old or how “complete” we really are. The proclaimed life expectancy we all hold up is more or less an illusion because each organism has only, as its time of reference, ALL THE TIME IT HAS EVER KNOWN…
So everybody’s life is ALWAYS the fullest at a given moment because we are always, at THIS particular moment, the oldest we have ever been. So there really isnâ??t such a thing as an INCOMPLETE life, since every life, at any given moment, can be said to be at its fullest.
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
So everybodyâ??s life is ALWAYS the fullest at a given moment because we are always, at THIS particular moment, the oldest weâ??ve ever been. So there really isnâ??t such a thing as an â??incompleteâ?? life, since every life, at any given moment, can be said to be at its fullest.[/quote]
…or, you could say that if you believe that things happen for any sort of universal reason, every life has a purpose…and he served his.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
So everybody�¢??s life is ALWAYS the fullest at a given moment because we are always, at THIS particular moment, the oldest we�¢??ve ever been. So there really isn�¢??t such a thing as an �¢??incomplete�¢?? life, since every life, at any given moment, can be said to be at its fullest.[/quote]
…or, you could say that if you believe that things happen for any sort of universal reason, every life has a purpose…and he served his.[/quote]
Instead of UNIVERSAL reason, I tend to think in the particular reasons made up by individuals under particular contexts.
If every life is purposeless like I like to think that it is, then there really is no tragic in any death because in a way, death is a more ‘natural’ state than life because you are simply going back to the state that you originated from. it is life, with its accidental emergence, that makes it tragic.
When you die, your body gets sucked back down to the ground where all things initially energy, where your atoms get recycled into nature. Most of the stuff in the universe, most of the time, is dead anyway. Your life at THIS particular moment can be viewed as a tiny pinnacle point of a huge “cone of death” (collection of past moments that are no longer) that pushes tiredly upward.
Dreamless sleep is very similar to death, and thereâ??s something very natural about falling into a dreamless sleep, where no efforts are needed, and no awareness and consciousness need to be spared. When we wake up each morning, we make efforts into that simple act of forcing yourself to get up from your bed, into the ‘denatured’ state that we called “life” and sometimes with much energy, to resume the role that each of us has to play in it.
I think that is where we differ. I find it hard to relate to anyone who sees life as an “accident” and our lives as “purposeless”.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
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If that vid doesn’t show that this kid had a sense of humor and a schtick, nothing does.
