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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

The sporting goods stores would have been looted long ago, no?[/quote]

i think someone in the series said it had been 68 days since the breakout right?

with an outbreak spreading that fast, i dont’ think people would have had enough time to seriously loot all places.

but my point was that there would be so many places to find 5.56 ammo (all major cities police stations, gun ranges, ect) that even picking up an empty m4 with some empty magazines would still be definatly worth it[/quote]

Not only that, but when people first see a corpse walking down the street I doubt they have the composure to stop and think about what all is needed. They probably grab the first few things they think of and bolt. But, the cities seem to be too infested to go loot a Carter’s Country so those with firearms are conserving ammo as best they can. I don’t remember, did Grimes grab all the ammo from the police station or just what he could fit in the duffel bag?[/quote]

Personally, I would take the crew back to the police station in the town where they were from and use that as base.

In a rural area, zombie numbers would be lower, and I’d just start going out to spots, setting off firecrackers or a car alarm, them killing zombies en masse or lure them into traps.

Do this for a couple months and your local population of zombies would be pretty damn low.

Have a secure area that you gradually expand with rings of defenses and constantly have patrols to keep zombie levels low.[/quote]

That’s a pretty good idea, but I’m guessing the zombies smell or sense humans somehow. I don’t remember if that was covered yet. They obviously hear 'em, but why did the zombies go all the way up the country side to their little compound?

Thinking about it, a small rural area is potentially the worst idea 'cause if zombies can smell/sense/whatever, you could be surrounded fairly quickly and then there’s little chance to get away. A mountain community seems like a good idea to me as it’d be hard for zombies to climb several thousand feet. Or sky castles. Yeah, I’m taking sky castles.

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Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Have they played the last episode yet? Some of you are talking about shit I don’t remember.

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The last episode aired Sunday. It starts with them entering the CDC facility.

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68 days eh? I was wondering how long he was passed out on the hospital bed for? I was also wondering how quick his wife got over him and started going for romps in the forest with his partner? Not long enough for me .The lady is a tramp.

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[quote]Ridiculous wrote:
68 days eh? I was wondering how long he was passed out on the hospital bed for? I was also wondering how quick his wife got over him and started going for romps in the forest with his partner? Not long enough for me .The lady is a tramp.[/quote]

i imagine a few weeks, then a week with the dad and son, then a few weeks at their makeshift camp.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.[/quote]

I still think kansas would be safe… or any central us state… When I can drive through there at 80 mph for 2 hours and not see 10 houses i think zombie infestations would be low…

plus, lots of food / farming land…

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[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.[/quote]

I still think kansas would be safe… or any central us state… When I can drive through there at 80 mph for 2 hours and not see 10 houses i think zombie infestations would be low…

plus, lots of food / farming land…[/quote]

Having now driven around the United States (a goal of mine since a kid), Kansas is surprisingly woody and hilly. Lots of hidey holes.

Trapped in building, the upper stories could be easily fortified.

If I was going to stay in the USA, it would be Nevada, West Texas, Panhandle Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be my pick.

Flat, empty, armed populace propbably did fine.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.[/quote]

I still think kansas would be safe… or any central us state… When I can drive through there at 80 mph for 2 hours and not see 10 houses i think zombie infestations would be low…

plus, lots of food / farming land…[/quote]

Having now driven around the United States (a goal of mine since a kid), Kansas is surprisingly woody and hilly. Lots of hidey holes.

Trapped in building, the upper stories could be easily fortified.

If I was going to stay in the USA, it would be Nevada, West Texas, Panhandle Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be my pick.

Flat, empty, armed populace propbably did fine. [/quote]

Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.[/quote]

I still think kansas would be safe… or any central us state… When I can drive through there at 80 mph for 2 hours and not see 10 houses i think zombie infestations would be low…

plus, lots of food / farming land…[/quote]

Having now driven around the United States (a goal of mine since a kid), Kansas is surprisingly woody and hilly. Lots of hidey holes.

Trapped in building, the upper stories could be easily fortified.

If I was going to stay in the USA, it would be Nevada, West Texas, Panhandle Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be my pick.

Flat, empty, armed populace propbably did fine. [/quote]

Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.
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Isolation works both ways, less Zombie but less stuff to salvage and live off of. Sorry Four60 only you could come in cause you like the same kind of movies I do, everyone else you are on your own.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.
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Isolation works both ways, less Zombie but less stuff to salvage and live off of. Sorry Four60 only you could come in cause you like the same kind of movies I do, everyone else you are on your own. [/quote]

true, however, I am pretty mechanically inclined. Fixing things and building what I need is not a problem. if you have watched that show about surviving an apocolypse they set up a system to capture rain water and in one good rain accumulated over 2 thousand gallons using tarps, a roof, pipes and a bunch of kiddie pools / buckets / barrels.

I think the real let down would be charging electronics, luckily I have a small generator that can be turned by a bike (mainly used to provide resistance when you dont feel like going outside in nasty weather)…

I think I would pass on the whole urban living area since I want to be able to sleep and not worry about zombies. A longer trip to find stuff is fine with me…

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Okay that is funny because you are rachet. :slight_smile:

Water was not what I was thinking about, FOOD. Growing food is a full time job, hence FARMERS. So scavaging for food is going to be the only means for a time. So back to the isolation, less people and having to travel 10 miles to the next house in west texas to ransack there pantry could be a bitch.

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[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.
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Isolation works both ways, less Zombie but less stuff to salvage and live off of. Sorry Four60 only you could come in cause you like the same kind of movies I do, everyone else you are on your own. [/quote]

true, however, I am pretty mechanically inclined. Fixing things and building what I need is not a problem. if you have watched that show about surviving an apocolypse they set up a system to capture rain water and in one good rain accumulated over 2 thousand gallons using tarps, a roof, pipes and a bunch of kiddie pools / buckets / barrels.

I think the real let down would be charging electronics, luckily I have a small generator that can be turned by a bike (mainly used to provide resistance when you dont feel like going outside in nasty weather)…

I think I would pass on the whole urban living area since I want to be able to sleep and not worry about zombies. A longer trip to find stuff is fine with me…[/quote]

Yeah…but I think some of you are forgetting your greatest threat…other living people who are desperate. That is your biggest concern. Zombies are dumb (at least in most movies). You already know how to kill them and you know how they hunt. What you don’t know are how many hillbillies are living in the woods around you waiting on you to let your guard down.

Being out in the middle of nowhere is no protection from other people. They can drive or run too and they will be scavenging. That means unless you have a well fortified living area that you can’t drive a truck through, you will eventually get got by someone.

That is why big buildings may be ok (unless someone sets fire to it). The water keeps you protected AND isolated unless they can swim really good and have scuba gear.

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^ That is what makes the whole concept intense and entertaining. It is one thing if you are dealing with the end of the world, it is quite another by adding the zombie concept. Leaves very little room for anything other than sheer survival.

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Are any of you now looking at different buildings while driving around and saying “Yeah that would be a good place to hole up for a couple days before moving on” or “That house on the top of the hill has good sightlines and some area to setup some defenses to delay the zombies while we could slip out the back”? Then again, maybe it’s just me thinking these things…

I think strategy depends on how many people you have to provide for and protect. If you have just a handful of survivors, find an abandoned farmhouse somewhere, preferably with a fallout shelter (eg The Road) set several perimeters, try to find livestock and start your new career as a farmer. If you have several families, finding a podunk town somewhere and figuring a way to wall it off might be a way to go. I agree with X though, an island would probably be a good bet, the problem is getting to one that is secluded enough or clearing the island of zombies after landing and keeping it zombie free.

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On another subject, what say you to this? If I get infected, but not eaten- this is how I go out?

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[quote]Mackk wrote:
I’m just tryin to figure out what the shit the scientist whispered into sheriff mans ear[/quote]

After the scientist analyzed the blood samples - he answered “No surprises” when he was asked if everything was alright.

He kind of dodged the question and I have a feeling it ties into what he whispered in the sheriff’s ear.

I’m guessing either:
A) Your wife is pregnant (most likely Shane’s); or
B) Someone in your group is a zombie virus carrier.

Who knows. Either way - great show!

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So the season finale aired Sunday. We got what 5 or 6 episodes? Will we be seeing another season between January and May, sort of like the Battlestar Galactica with seasons 2.0 and 2.5.

[quote]four60 wrote:
Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.
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Water wells are just holes dug below the water table. Just because the pumps get shut off doesn’t mean the water goes away. If anything there should be more water due to fewer people consuming it. It may prove difficult to switch to a manual and wind driven pump, but not impossible.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote] wrote:
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Okay that is funny because you are rachet. :slight_smile:

Water was not what I was thinking about, FOOD. Growing food is a full time job, hence FARMERS. So scavaging for food is going to be the only means for a time. So back to the isolation, less people and having to travel 10 miles to the next house in west texas to ransack there pantry could be a bitch. [/quote]

To make things worse the American farm is dedicated to growing in a seasonal mono-culture style. The Texas Panhandle is great place to farm, but it’s going to be large tracts of land of one type of crop. That crop will have to be harvested at a specific time to be of use, and will probably have a minimal chance to self propagate without human assistance. If you know where to look you can find federally mandated sections that are required to remain as wild/natural prairie. There you should find lots of seed plants and legumes. It may not be the most appetizing but it would keep you from starving. Plus there should be plenty of rodents, predatory birds and some snakes to eat.

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The problem with islands is, again, other people. People WILL be thinking the same thing you are regarding islands. They think it’s safe. More likely than not, one or more people will be infected upon arriving. That’s all it takes to create Zombie Island.

If you can survive on your own or in a small group the further away from civilization (or what once was civilization) is your greatest chance of survival. Less people DOES = less zombies AND less desperate/hostile survivors to worry about. Ideally, you want a place that is as out of the way as you can get while still being able to survive and be relatively safe. But, even if you do happen across/have a plan to obtain this, no matter how comfortable you may get you CAN NOT become complacent.

Reason is is zombies wander. Mostly in groups. One zombie hears a noise far away it WILL attract that zombie. If that zombie is wander chances are others will blindly follow. Even if that noise they heard is no longer there they will continue to wander in that direction until they reach something. They’re mindless remember. They are driven by instinct and nothing else. They also don’t tire so they will wander relentlessly. And if they accumulate enough they become massive.

This is why it’s important to find a place as remote as possible. If you know how to survive/thrive in cold weather you have increased your chances of survival provided you can get to somewhere (a remote cabin maybe) where it’s remote and cold. Regardless of how relentless wandering hordes can be, they can not wander when they’re frozen. Most won’t have cold weather gear thus limiting their numbers, especially in cold climates in winter. A frozen zombie is a relatively harmless zombie.

Of course, in this type of scenario there is an inverse relationship between the size of your group and chances of survival. There will be less food to hunt/forage and less space for shelter in an isolated, cold climate. So, if at all possible, keep your group limited, maybe just take with you those that you truly love and know can contribute to surviving a zombie apocalypse.

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[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Your best bet would likely be a boat. They can smell living flesh. That is why they didn’t notice them during that “Guts” episode until it started raining. Unless you are in the Colorado mountains, water is the next safest place to be.[/quote]

I still think kansas would be safe… or any central us state… When I can drive through there at 80 mph for 2 hours and not see 10 houses i think zombie infestations would be low…

plus, lots of food / farming land…[/quote]

Having now driven around the United States (a goal of mine since a kid), Kansas is surprisingly woody and hilly. Lots of hidey holes.

Trapped in building, the upper stories could be easily fortified.

If I was going to stay in the USA, it would be Nevada, West Texas, Panhandle Texas, Oklahoma, etc, would be my pick.

Flat, empty, armed populace propbably did fine. [/quote]

Ok, now how about Water, remember the well will run dry since no one is around to work the pumps. I like the idea of TX.
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Amost every old-fashioned wind-mill you see in the country is a water well for cattle tanks, and can be hand-pumped, if need be.

That said, I was in the Israeli Army. Finding water in the desert was Survival 101. There’s plenty to be found.

There’s also plenty to eat, if you know where to look.

I could see zombies doing fine in a dairy farm, but there is no way they could catch an un-injured deer.