Zidane... Last Game

[quote]Devstar wrote:
zidane gave that guy what was comming, dude was running his mouth. personally i give zidane props for putting that dude in his place, bet he will think twice before we talks shit again. plus that was one hell of a headbutt.[/quote]

people and their false sense of pride…Yeah, he sure showed him. I bet Materazzi has trouble hanging his first place medal around his neck…the bottom line: Zidane == Tewl;

[quote]Devstar wrote:
zidane gave that guy what was comming, dude was running his mouth. personally i give zidane props for putting that dude in his place, bet he will think twice before we talks shit again. plus that was one hell of a headbutt.[/quote]

You miss the point of talking trash.

The goal is to piss off your opponent and make them lose focus.

The holy grail is to make them hit you and get thrown out of the game.

Yeah, he showed him!

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
xjayx300 wrote:
Stuey wrote:
Where did this term “flopping” come from??

I’ve watched football for years and have never once heard this term before this thread.

The term “flopping” comes from basketball…and you are correct, in regards to soccer, it is “diving”, as with hockey.

That’s a new one to me, and I’ve been watching b-ball for 30 years. “Acting” is the term most used. That said, it’s not hard to figure out what someone means by “flopping” is it?

DB [/quote]

bwhahahaha…I don’t know what type of “b-ball” you’ve been watching, but “acting” generally takes place on Broadway lol.

Here is a search on NBA.com on “Flopping”: http://search.nba.com/search/promosearch?sp_a=sp10033e5e&sp_f=ISO-8859-1&sp-t=nba&sp_advanced=&sp_q=flopping&x=0&y=0

And here is a search regarding “Acting”: http://search.nba.com/search/promosearch?sp_a=sp10033e5e&sp_f=ISO-8859-1&sp-t=nba&sp_advanced=&sp_q=acting&x=0&y=0

Funny how the first artice found under the acting search is “CHARLOTTE BOBCATS: Bobcats Celebrate Random Acts Of Kindness Day” and the first article for flopping is: “…what’s your reaction to Shaq’s comments that Dikembe was flopping and should stand up and play him like a man?”

[quote]nephorm wrote:
You miss the point of talking trash.

The goal is to piss off your opponent and make them lose focus.

The holy grail is to make them hit you and get thrown out of the game.

Yeah, he showed him![/quote]

I am glad I am not the only that understands this.

[quote]supermick wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Sweet head butt. At least he didn’t pop him in the face.

Agreed. He went out his own way, headbutting an Italian surrender monkey in the process.

That and the fact that he’s already won a world cup, footballer of the year and the European cup the European championships = a great career.[/quote]

Yup, he went out on his own terms alright. A disgraceful, classless gesture to say the least. You come to expect these sort of acts from thugs like Rooney, but never expected this from Zidane. What the hell was he thinking man??

[quote]robs wrote:
I think France should accuse Italy of doping.[/quote]

Please elaborate??

I call it penis envy.

All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis ) for his free will to act are just secretly envious of the size, girth, and thrushing power of the manhood that it takes for a man to act on the callings of his instinctual nature when he wants it and how he wants it, regardless of the consequences.

He didn’t make a mistake he just just made a choice which differs from what most of you would have made.

That is what I call psychological autonomy.

I’d marry him anyday.

[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
algian wrote:

America is not the world (and thank fuck for that).

Hey Algian FUCK YOU!!![/quote]

Did you just headbutt him in the nose…?

How ungracefull of you…

Moderator, “red card” him at once!

As a T-member you must be penalized for your behaviour; you have too much “T”, it will show up the other males as weak and deficient, and in need of a t-booster. As you are well aware, steroids are banned substances so we need to supress and sacrifice the stronger minority for the sake of the weaker minority to maintain our normal state of delusion( include self-righteous tone )

; )

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I call it penis envy.

All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis ) for his free will to act are just secretly envious of the size, girth, and thrushing power of the manhood that it takes for a man to act on the callings of his instinctual nature when he wants it and how he wants it, regardless of the consequences.

He didn’t make a mistake he just just made a choice which differs from what most of you would have made.

That is what I call psychological autonomy.

I’d marry him anyday.[/quote]

Actually, his nickname is Zizou which means white cat. That being said, I guess cats have callings of instinctual nature as well…

:wink:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis ) for his free will to act are just secretly envious of the size, girth, and thrushing power of the manhood that it takes for a man to act on the callings of his instinctual nature when he wants it and how he wants it, regardless of the consequences.

He didn’t make a mistake he just just made a choice which differs from what most of you would have made.

That is what I call psychological autonomy.

I’d marry him anyday.[/quote]

It is what I call “childish behavior.”

A child hits because he lacks the self-control to allow himself to be unaffected by antagonizers.

As far as acting on one’s “instinctual nature” “when he wants it and how he wants it,” we have higher brain function for a reason.

I guess I should just walk around hitting people who piss me off for whatever reason.

Then I’d be a real man!

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis ) [/quote]

Also, where did you get that from? Last I checked, Zizzi is the plural of zizzo, which comes from sicilian zizzu, meaning an ostentatiously beautiful or elegant youth.

But I could be wrong.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
algian wrote:

America is not the world (and thank fuck for that).

Hey Algian FUCK YOU!!!

Did you just headbutt him in the nose…?

How ungracefull of you…

Moderator, “red card” him at once!

As a T-member you must be penalized for your behaviour; you have too much “T”, it will show up the other males as weak and deficient, and in need of a t-booster. As you are well aware, steroids are banned substances so we need to supress and sacrifice the stronger minority for the sake of the weaker minority to maintain our normal state of delusion( include self-righteous tone )

; )

[/quote]

Awesome post!!

[quote]nephorm wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis )

Also, where did you get that from? Last I checked, Zizzi is the plural of zizzo, which comes from sicilian zizzu, meaning an ostentatiously beautiful or elegant youth.

But I could be wrong.[/quote]

Does it even matter what it means in Italian ?

Zidane is french and is of of Algerian descent.

Zizou is a nickname given to him in France by the Bordeau manager Roland Courbis, when Zidane played there in the mid 1990s

In french Zizou doesn’t mean anything at all.

Concerning the headbutt I found this on wikipeadia :

On July 11, 2006, FIFA declared its intent to officially investigate the incident.

An Amendment regarding discrimination to Art. 55, Par. 4 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code stipulates that if any player, association or club official or spectator publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamatory manner on account of race, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous act and can be attributed to a certain team, the team in question faces deduction of points in the group stage resp. disqualification in the knockout stage.

The new provisions had been adopted on 28 March 2006 and may lead to the FIFA Executive Committee imposing harsh sanctions and even disallowing Italy’s team the World Cup victory if Materazzi is convicted of having insulted Zidane with racial slurs.

I think Zidane’s action is well done, that idiot deserved it.

[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
algian wrote:

America is not the world (and thank fuck for that).

Hey Algian FUCK YOU!!![/quote]

I noticed a typo in my post. I didn’t mean to say America, as America is a huge continent which I am in fact a member of, I meant USA.

Bigragoo, sorry if I offended you. It wasn’t an attack on you, it was more of a rant on some of the close minded and obnoxious views on this thread.

[quote]k.elkouhen wrote:
nephorm wrote:

The new provisions had been adopted on 28 March 2006 and may lead to the FIFA Executive Committee imposing harsh sanctions and even disallowing Italy’s team the World Cup victory if Materazzi is convicted of having insulted Zidane with racial slurs.

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That would f-ing rock!!! Even if it is wrong to take away a championship for a really stupid rule like that (I mean really, who disqualifies a team for trash-talking?). It would still kick ass simply because of the crying that would take place from Italians.

DB

[quote]k.elkouhen wrote:
nephorm wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis )

Also, where did you get that from? Last I checked, Zizzi is the plural of zizzo, which comes from sicilian zizzu, meaning an ostentatiously beautiful or elegant youth.

But I could be wrong.

Does it even matter what it means in Italian ?

Zidane is french and is of of Algerian descent.

Zizou is a nickname given to him in France by the Bordeau manager Roland Courbis, when Zidane played there in the mid 1990s

In french Zizou doesn’t mean anything at all.

Concerning the headbutt I found this on wikipeadia :

On July 11, 2006, FIFA declared its intent to officially investigate the incident.

An Amendment regarding discrimination to Art. 55, Par. 4 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code stipulates that if any player, association or club official or spectator publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamatory manner on account of race, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous act and can be attributed to a certain team, the team in question faces deduction of points in the group stage resp. disqualification in the knockout stage.

The new provisions had been adopted on 28 March 2006 and may lead to the FIFA Executive Committee imposing harsh sanctions and even disallowing Italy’s team the World Cup victory if Materazzi is convicted of having insulted Zidane with racial slurs.

[/quote]

The BBC’s view on what happended : BBC SPORT | Football | World Cup 2006 | I'm sorry but no regrets - Zidane

[quote]k.elkouhen wrote:
The BBC’s view on what happended : BBC SPORT | Football | World Cup 2006 | I'm sorry but no regrets - Zidane
[/quote]

BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being “you’re the son of a terrorist whore” - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday.

Materazzi’s first word to Zidane was “no” before he then told him to “calm down”.

He then accused him of being a “liar” and wished “an ugly death to you and your family” on the day the Frenchman’s mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by “Go f*** yourself”.

[quote]nephorm wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
All males who are criticizing Zizzi( Italian for penis ) for his free will to act are just secretly envious of the size, girth, and thrushing power of the manhood that it takes for a man to act on the callings of his instinctual nature when he wants it and how he wants it, regardless of the consequences.

He didn’t make a mistake he just just made a choice which differs from what most of you would have made.

That is what I call psychological autonomy.

I’d marry him anyday.

It is what I call “childish behavior.”

A child hits because he lacks the self-control to allow himself to be unaffected by antagonizers.

“How do you know he lacked self control?
As it has been said here, maybe he wanted to headbutt him in the nose.
I know that I, personaly, would have wanted to go for the jugular.”

As far as acting on one’s “instinctual nature” “when he wants it and how he wants it,” we have higher brain function for a reason.

“He did use his higher brain function. It said; ‘Headbutt him in the chest. Do not kill.’”

I guess I should just walk around hitting people who piss me off for whatever reason.

“Now you are overreacting. This is not what I meant. Use your higher brain fuction, ; )…1.He wasn’t walking around
2.He chose 1 act of physical agression in response to another act of emotional agression at that specific moment in time - which makes it all the more rational.
Also this is not a game of chess. When your higher brain is operating together with your higher body ( and unless you have played at that level you really cannot coment on “hight” ) ACTION happens.”

Then I’d be a real man![/quote]

All men are real. That’s the scary part.

; )

[quote]nephorm wrote:
chrisfoxnyc wrote:
He was defending his mother’s honor, and his own. I’ve got no problem with his not being a pussy, and being a man. He had to pay a price for it. And only he can decide for himself whether it was worth it.
Talk shit to me about my family and I’d do similar.

I’ve gotten into several arguments with people about this incident. Many feel that there is some level of insult that makes assault on another human being “justifiable.”

I was raised to believe that one shouldn’t hit another human being except in self-defense.

Do some of you think it is somehow manly to sucker-punch/sucker-headbutt a guy who is talking shit?

Some of you probably need to reexamine your priorities.[/quote]

Pussy.