You Vs. a Pit Bull

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As well they should.

I’ve had to face down a german shepard and a collie once and an Irish setter on another occassion when my fiance and I were walking my dog in the woods.

The dogs backed down and I ran them off, but if it had to come down to it, those dogs would have been carcasses by the time I got done.

One thing everybody seems to forget-

WE are also a hundred and some odd pounds of muscle, with a great ability and determination to protect our own.

When you forget that, you just took yourself down a notch on the food chain.

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My nickname is ‘The Pit Bull Killer’

If the dog is far enough away and is running at you aggressively I would take my shirt off and wrap it around my left forearm.

You will have to sacrifice this wrapped forearm inorder to pummel the animal.

Once the dog has bitten down on your forearm you must gouge out its eyes with your other hand using the thumb. If the dog has not let go by now you insert you fingers into the nostrils and yank back towards the head inorder to tear its nose off. Lastly tear off the testicles even if the dog has let go or not to help prevent future aggression. Twist and yank.

The last 3 pitbull let go after the eye gouging, but I successfully tore off 2 sets of balls.

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Years ago i had a Newfoundland. I bought the dog because they were know to be big and lovable. 100 years ago they were considered nanny dogs.

My dog was 10 months old and about 100 pounds. He had a very loving personality and was great with kids.

Well, one day i was walking him down the street towards the small town store. A full grown Rottweiler came out and went after my dog. Now, this dog wasn’t tied, was owned by drug taking white trash while there were kids playing in the area.

I spun my dog away from me and pulled my police model spyderco knife and stuck it right at the dog’s nose while he proceeded to growl at me. I wasn’t quite drawing blood, but my warning of go away or I’ll gut you was taken.

His dirtbag owner asked me what i had in my hand. i said it was a knife. She said i was crazy, while I just told her to keep her dog under control.

The dog was lucky I didn’t have my pocket .22 or .32.

Now there you have a case of a dirtbag with abd dog due to the dirtbagness. However, these trash buy these dogs to be tough guys. They don’t buy Newfies, they buy them for the rep. Personally, I’m great with dogs, but would never by a pit bull.

I’d much rather buy a breed with a great rep of gentleness. I wouldn’t go as far as to outlaw any breeds, but I’m very wary of sertain types.

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Shoot it with my ccw piece that I never leave home without.

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[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Instinctively, I would kick the dog when he got in range. If he latched on to me, I would hope my survival instinct kicked in and I would slam him and knee him and do whatever needed to be done to get the dog off me.

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No amount of kicking, hitting or bashing on the dog would make it lose interest in fight.
Try talking to hunters that use dogs. A dog can get torn, lose a limb, brake some bones and still had his teeth on the boar and attacked it until boar gave up. So no, no kick would make it stop or made it fly 100 yards in the air like you see in movies.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
<<< The dogs backed down and I ran them off, but if it had to come down to it, those dogs would have been carcasses by the time I got done.

One thing everybody seems to forget-

WE are also a hundred and some odd pounds of muscle, with a great ability and determination to protect our own.

When you forget that, you just took yourself down a notch on the food chain.
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Most dogs can be backed down, when off lead and not behind a fence in their own yard, by stomping on the ground and yelling at them.

A hard well trained dog, which like I said before is actually the safest kind, will not be deterred by anything short of it’s own death. With superior training they can spot a perp 200 pounds and still thwart their ill intentions and or prevent their escape.

I promise.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
WE are also a hundred and some odd pounds of muscle, with a great ability and determination to protect our own.
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Unfortunately not. The average person only has around 20lb actual muscle weight. The rest is bones, organs, water, fat, etc. Very big and strong men may have more like 80lb actual muscle.

But anyway, we’re definitely heavy, aggressive and most importantly CLEVER, so it wouldn’t be suicide to try and defend yourself.

BTW, here’s a video of a little bull terrier saving a man from a bull - bully breeds aren’t all bad.

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[quote]DM246 wrote:
In spite of the interesting tone in this discussion most of us on this forum probably don’t oppose the responsible ownership of any type of dog.

Unfortunately, a small percentage of the trailer trash gets a better paying job and buys a house in a nice subdivision.

The dipshit owner of the two Pits that tore up my son in 1999 stated that he bought the dogs because they afforded protection for his family. Yet he let his dogs roam the neighborhood unsupervised at various times during the day.

I own firearms for family protection but I would never allow my guns to be away from my direct influence.

I salute the dog owners who take their responsibility seriously and protect their dogs from potentially dangerous situations.

My contempt is reserved for those few unscrupulous owners who think their right to own a dog for personal protection means that “Fido” can roam the neighborhood and threaten other homeowners and children. That type of dog owner losses his investment and has to dig a hole. [/quote]

Very good post and I am sincerely sorry to hear about your son.

In regards to your post, we live in a “nice subdivision.”

I have a female AmStaff and am about to purchase a male. I have been around bully breeds most of my life.

There is a family one court over who recently bought a Rottie puppy.

These people are fucking trash. There yard looks like shit, their kids hual ass around the neighborhood in their Escalade with rap music blaring. Their oldest son was indicted over a shooting incident in a park not 3 blocks from their home.

Anyway, to our horror they recently bought a Rottie puppy (thank God it is not a ‘pit bull’.) They live in an expensive home and have a nice fenced in back yard but instead choose to leave him tied up in the front yard where he runs around at the end of his lead and barks at the kids playing. The gate to their backyard is always open, anyway.

Last nite the wife and I were out in front enjoying a light rainfall (it has been ridiculously dry here).

All the sudden we hear the dog barking and walk to the edge of our lot to see what is going on.

About 4-5 teenagers (owner’s kids and friends) are standing around the dog encouraging it to bark and yelling at it (roar!!!, stuff like that) and charging at him laughing and taking swings at him.

I can only imagine what the neighbors must be thinking as a majority of them have young children. My wife and I are just absolutely sickened by this.

To be clear, it has nothing to do with the Rottie but rather the fucking idiots who own what will soon become a large, powerful dog literally stuck in the midst of small children and are being completely stupid and irresponsible in their raising of it

It sucks because now in addition to being concerned for the kids in the neighborhood we are concerned that when something does happen it will turn attention on us because of the whole “aggressive breed” frenzy.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
<<< choose to leave him tied up in the front yard where he runs around at the end of his lead and barks at the kids playing. The gate to their backyard is always open, anyway.
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About 4-5 teenagers (owner’s kids and friends) are standing around the dog encouraging it to bark and yelling at it (roar!!!, stuff like that) and charging at him laughing and taking swings at him. >>>[/quote]

What’s REALLY bad about this is that what they are doing to that dog is creating an absolute timebomb.

This is an actual technique used in Schutzhund and Ring Sport to bring up weaker dogs. Agitation work while denying the bite. Sometimes for weeks. It can also be used responsibly to hone area guard dogs and even personal protection dogs in some instances if done right.

The bite at the end of the work is the reward and emotional release for the dog. (in a nutshell) By continuously teasing the dog, but denying him release they are building aggressive tension to a fever pitch. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bit one of the owners soon over feeding or some other dominance issue that they will most certainly have no idea about before it’s too late. Especially since they are ignorantly making themselves the object of his frustration. In any case, God help the poor schmuck that he takes it out on first.

This reminds of this bonehead that a buddy hooked me up with one time who wanted his dog trained for protection. He shows up with a 200 dollar Ray Allen sleeve and proceeds to announce that he’s already started the training himself.

He was indignant when I suggested it may not be the very wisest strategy to teach his own dog to bite HIM!!! Idiot, another of many jobs I turned down.

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Great points there Trib

Most animals are ferocious killers compared to a naked man

but a naked man with a knife, that is another thing

or a big stick for that matter

or anything pointy, cause our fingers don’t penetrate flesh very well, and our bite isn’t large, but it is strong, but our teeth are small too

but give a man ANYTHING as a weapon, even a garbage can, and everything changes

so if a pit bull attacks me on the street I slap it with my handbag and scream like a girl

of course the best trick would be getting it to bite hard and not let go of your forearm - of your jacket - not your actual arm.

you could always hold the dog out on the end of your arm so it hits a passing car. that’d learn’ it real good

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
<<< of course the best trick would be getting it to bite hard and not let go of your forearm - of your jacket - not your actual arm.

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Here’s one more promise. A well trained dog will know the difference having been conditioned by intrepid souls such as myself through the use of things such as the hidden sleeve.

Also, well trained dogs will have multiple bites in addition the the forearm. Such as armpit, back, crotch and leg bites. Neck bites are discouraged as the object is apprehension not execution. They can tell the difference between a solid bite and clothes. Indeed, it’s a standard part of non sport aggression training.

I’ve taken em all. I wish I had more pictures, but the one of me and the Rottie (Rommell, not surprisingly a german import) a page or 2 ago is one of the few I have left.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Most “pit owners” I know don’t say anything about how “deadly” their dog is. They talk about it’s athleticism, intelligence, stamina, strength, etc, etc. It’s all about the owners. Move out of the trailer park and maybe you will meet some responsible owners.
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Really? How many times has Trib boasted on this very thread about how dangerous his trained dogs are? Interesting.

And you really think that these dogs are not dangerous in urban settings? Why dont you ask HeavyThrower about his gentle critter.

The reality is that owning a dog aggressive breed (The APBT, SBT or AST) or a man aggressive dog like the Rottweiler in a community setting is called being an asshole. You are intentionally putting other people at risk because you want to own a dangerous dog.

But Give me a break malonetd. If you wanted a smart, sunny, athletic dog there are numerous breeds you could have chosen from that do not share the breeding history of the pitbull type dogs and so have much different dispositions towards other animals.

All you pit owners can keep making up excuses for your poor decisions, but the truth is obvious.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
malonetd wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Most “pit owners” I know don’t say anything about how “deadly” their dog is. They talk about it’s athleticism, intelligence, stamina, strength, etc, etc. It’s all about the owners. Move out of the trailer park and maybe you will meet some responsible owners.

Really? How many times has Trib boasted on this very thread about how dangerous his trained dogs are? Interesting.

And you really think that these dogs are not dangerous in urban settings? Why dont you ask HeavyThrower about his gentle critter.

The reality is that owning a dog aggressive breed (The APBT, SBT or AST) or a man aggressive dog like the Rottweiler in a community setting is called being an asshole. You are intentionally putting other people at risk because you want to own a dangerous dog.

But Give me a break malonetd. If you wanted a smart, sunny, athletic dog there are numerous breeds you could have chosen from that do not share the breeding history of the pitbull type dogs and so have much different dispositions towards other animals.

All you pit owners can keep making up excuses for your poor decisions, but the truth is obvious.
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Not sure I agree with this. If a 1 year old baby crawls up to a poodle and pull its ears, and the poodle grabs the baby by the nose/eyes/cheeks and scars the baby for live, does this make the poodle breed a dangerous dog?

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not everywhere. In Italy if you smack “some” dogs you can have trouble.
With “dangerouse” dogs you haven’t but with others it is possible (the gov have wrote a list of dangerouse dogs…)

nice! I hope something similar will be set also here…

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[quote]Chris J wrote:
If a 1 year old baby crawls up to a poodle and pull its ears, and the poodle grabs the baby by the nose/eyes/cheeks and scars the baby for live, does this make the poodle breed a dangerous dog?
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Then every creature, your pet budgie, is potentially dangerous, which is same as saying there is no difference between a budgie and a rotweiler, which is nonsense.

Because the media has a tendency to focus on pitt bulls is unfortunate because it allows the owners of these animals to claim that all attention is unwarranted and that they and the breed are victims of a witch hunt.

The type of animal a pet owner chooses is obviously going to clearly reflect his personality. There are intelligent, loyal, athletic, gentle dogs out there that generally do not cause fear when walking down the street. Pits and rots cause fear. They demand instant respect and wariness. You cannot ignore one these animals in your proximity. And it reflects on the owner, and the owner knows this.

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Scotacus, I agree with what you say.

To certain people, pitbulls are like tattoos, they get them for the immage, and this is stupid, but dont hate the dog because its owner is an idiot.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:

Really? How many times has Trib boasted on this very thread about how dangerous his trained dogs are? Interesting.

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You really are a brain dead retard. Any dog I’ve ever trained has been dangerous to no one, but those with criminal intentions. Just like a good cop. Friendly, helpful and and a threat only to those for whom he should be.

My dogs have been more reliable, trustworthy and probably stable than a reactionary, ignorant twiddle like you ever could be.

Relating how well rounded an animal can be in the right hands is not penis waving. If you had ever spent one calorie in this field you would know that. Actually you probably wouldn’t as your ability to assimilate information appears to have been damaged by some form of oxygen deprivation early in life.

It’s OK to be a gullible, post modern, fear mongering imbecile as long you can face the fact and seek help. You certainly aren’t alone. Against my inclinations I’ll continue to hold out hope for at least some meaningful recovery.

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I would hope this would never happen, because I love dogs. If it did, I know it would end badly for both of us.

The way I playfight with a dog is to shove my forearm as far back into its mouth as possible. This is for two reasons. First, the teeth in the back of its mouth aren’t as sharp. Second, you are closer to the fulcrum of the lever-like jawbone, so the force crushing your arm is much less because the distance from the origin is decreased.

The dogs know this on some level, and always try to wiggle backwards to get a better grip. To counter that, you grab them by the scruff of the neck HARD with your free hand, just like their mama used to, and plant them flat on their back.

After that, a good belly rub will usually do the trick, while keeping a firm grasp of their scruff. Usually they will start to act submissively to your status as the Alpha Male and will not fuck around with you any more.

However, if this was a vicious dog that was intent on killing/hurting me, I would return the favor by dropping all of my weight on its skull. An animal like that has no business living around people.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
malonetd wrote:
adubswils wrote:
Most “pit owners” I know don’t say anything about how “deadly” their dog is. They talk about it’s athleticism, intelligence, stamina, strength, etc, etc. It’s all about the owners. Move out of the trailer park and maybe you will meet some responsible owners.

Really? How many times has Trib boasted on this very thread about how dangerous his trained dogs are? Interesting. [/quote]

Wanna learn to read, genius? Look at what I typed again. I said “most pit owners I know.” I don’t know Thib. Interesting.

Poor decision? I’m lost with this one. How is my dog choice a poor decision? I eagerly await you biased, sensationalized, ill-informed response.

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[quote]adubswils wrote:
Really? How many times has Trib boasted on this very thread about how dangerous his trained dogs are? Interesting.

And you really think that these dogs are not dangerous in urban settings? Why dont you ask HeavyThrower about his gentle critter.

The reality is that owning a dog aggressive breed (The APBT, SBT or AST) or a man aggressive dog like the Rottweiler in a community setting is called being an asshole. You are intentionally putting other people at risk because you want to own a dangerous dog.

But Give me a break malonetd. If you wanted a smart, sunny, athletic dog there are numerous breeds you could have chosen from that do not share the breeding history of the pitbull type dogs and so have much different dispositions towards other animals.

All you pit owners can keep making up excuses for your poor decisions, but the truth is obvious.
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I have not read a sinble post where Tribulus boasts about how dangerous his dogs are but rather how trainable, intelligent and gentle they are despite being trained as working dogs (in case you haven’t picked up on it, Trib is a dog trainer).

It is primarily criminals who consider working dogs dangerous, not the regular public.

Out of curiosity I looked at your profile and some of your previous posts. You appear to troll around the off topic sections of this site and post crap like this.

Which leads me to the question, “Do you even train?!?”

Bottom line is you clearly don’t know what the fuck you are talking about and sound like a little bitch.

You would be better served to just STFU.