If attacked by a dog, just pull out your taser. 
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
Excellent article about Pit Bull attacks and profiling from The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/02/06/060206fa_fact
Pretty good indeed. It’s not often the poor chaps get a fair shake, but this was fair and startlingly informed compared to what is usually seen.
TC, I have a feeling you’re still lurking in this thread, give this article a whirl if you get a chance.[/quote]
That’s the New Yorker for you.
I’ve been thinking about getting a dog for a while, and all of you Pit lover’s have me seriously considering a pit bull now. Thanks.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
Excellent article about Pit Bull attacks and profiling from The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/02/06/060206fa_fact
Pretty good indeed. It’s not often the poor chaps get a fair shake, but this was fair and startlingly informed compared to what is usually seen.
TC, I have a feeling you’re still lurking in this thread, give this article a whirl if you get a chance.
That’s the New Yorker for you.
I’ve been thinking about getting a dog for a while, and all of you Pit lover’s have me seriously considering a pit bull now. Thanks.[/quote]
Make sure it’s a reputable breeder and I would recommend one of the excellent books by http://www.richardfstratton.com/ before making a decision. This guy would be here giving himself whiplash agreeing with what I’ve been saying and probably knows at least as much about the breed as anybody still alive.
EDIT: On a related note Marty Lieberman Home • martinsk9formula.com
who is mentioned by Stratton in one his books told me years ago “one you’ve owned a bulldog, everything else is jist a dog” . Quite so.
[quote]bound wrote:
Nevermind a pitbull, how about a boerboel? 160 lbs and only about 26" high herd dog.[/quote]
I like those dogs, if I could I would have a team of a Boerboel, a Bandogge and a Caucasian Ovcharka.
In response to the original post…
The best idea would be to get off the ground or in a house/car.
If none of those are available, depending on the dog(pitbulls tend to be small thus slow) you could make a run for it…
If those two options are not available, obviously look for a weapon, use weapon and bash it’s skull in.
If it is just you and the Pitbull locked in a cage UFC-style…use a jacket or even a shirt to hold in front of you(won’t work with trained dogs but in my experience others dogs just bite the shirt which you can then “wrap” around it’s head).
If no shirt, circle the pit constantly and if possible get a nice angle to boot the pitbull in the ribs…
You could also try for a feint and an immediate move to take the pitbull’s back…once you have a dogs back you are golden.
Dogs are bad asses, but people are much smarter(most anyways) and as such we can create a strategy to deal with the unique situation.
[quote]Scotacus wrote:
Ive also read that apparently it is much harder to get insurance for these animals. However, again, “trailer-trash” sorts will not be concerned about that.[/quote]
Yeah, it’s very hard to get insurance. Hell, if you don’t own your home, it’s hard to find a place to live that will allow bully breeds.
I understand there is fear of the breed, but I beg of people to fear how the dog – any dog – is raised, not the breed.
Also, to address some of the other issues in the thread, owners should hold some liability, and do in many counties, on dog attacks. At the same time, many people are ignorant on how to behave around a dog and why a dog reacts the way it does. (Don’t read that as an excuse or justification for a dog attack. It’s just a statement on people’s ignorance of animal behavior.)
My dog is very friendly and loves personal attention. He will paw at your feet to let you know he is there. So many people naturally bend down to greet him. Yet, they get confused and upset as to why when they stand up to walk away my dog jumps up on his hind feet and paws their chest.
You were just face-to-face with him interacting and stood up without giving him a command not to follow. Of course he is going to want to continue to interact. Dogs love attention.
I also can’t understand why people call my dog and talk dog-friendly to him, yet don’t want him to come near them. If you don’t want him around, just ignore him.
My point is, I think people could do well for themselves to have even a small understanding of dog behavior. Of course, with responsible ownership, there’s no reason this should even be an issue.
[quote]adubswils wrote:
I love how pit owners always want to tell everyone just how lovable their dog is… right after or right before they go on and on bragging about how deadly they perceive their dog to be. Fucking lunatics. [/quote]
Most “pit owners” I know don’t say anything about how “deadly” their dog is. They talk about it’s athleticism, intelligence, stamina, strength, etc, etc. It’s all about the owners. Move out of the trailer park and maybe you will meet some responsible owners.
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Most people own these things because they think they are “bad ass”. I know Trib up there would like to pretend that all dog owners are some god damned dog whisperer, but the reality is that almost all dog owners are morons[/quote]Really? I would agree that many are morons, but not “almost all.”[quote] (including two of my neighbors that let their pit bulls run off leash in the apartment complex).
Even good dogs will snap sometimes. The difference when this happens is the extent of damage they can cause. My border collie[/quote]You own a dog? Are you a moron?[quote] can give you some nasty nips, but is very unlikely to cause extensive damage to the neighbors children (even on the off chance that she actually acted violently). But the story is much different for heavily muscled dogs like pit bulls. They can easily cause extensive damage to the people they attack.
And then these morons want to defend their purchase choices. They want to own what are essentially dangerous autonomous weapons (by their own description) within city bounds. Why? Because the dog is oh so nice. LOL. Go buy a damn lab, border collie, or some other animal with good temperament. [/quote]
Plenty of breeds have traditionally much worse temperaments. The problem isn’t the temperament, it’s the one dog that does the damage of 4-5 smaller, weaker dogs. Besides, my dog has an amazing temperament. How long would you sit still while a three-year-old shoved Spongebob Squarepants’s arms in your eyes while another toddler pulled your tail?[quote]
Then even in the off chance that your dog behaves badly no one will be too badly hurt. Or just admit you want the pit because its “bad ass” and that you have no good reason to own the animal. [/quote]
I don’t want my “pit” because it is “bad ass,” I want it because he is smart and loyal. I want him because he is beautiful with full ears and a glowing red coat. I want him because he knew someone was breaking in my kitchen window while we were in the front yard, yet I was too dumb to listen to him. I want him for many reasons, but none include the phrase “bad ass.”
white trash lets her pit attack an officer and gets 6 months in jail for assault with deadly weapon
white trash with 6 rotts gets ONLY 2 yrs for a girl mauled to death by his dogs while he was not home.
Avoid the fight if possible.
If not, kick the dog first. Boots are nice, as they allow to apply maximum force. Wear steel toe boots, and kicking might be the only thing you need to do.
If you can give the dog something to bite (yank jacket, wrap forearm) that would be great. Then grab the dog by its neck.
Then inflict maximum and most brutal damage possible. Gouge eyes, impale the animal with something sharp (nice spiky metallic fence, yum!), bash its skull into the curb, drop on one knee with the animal’s belly underneath, etc.
[quote]adubswils wrote:
Some stuff.[/quote]
You know that feeling you get when you eat too much ice cream too fast and your brain freezes a lil bit?
Yeah. You just gave me that.
[quote]bound wrote:
Nevermind a pitbull, how about a boerboel? 160 lbs and only about 26" high herd dog.[/quote]
I love the boerboel breed, mine was the runt of the litterr, so she is smaller then most, 135lbs. They look very vicious, but in fact they have the most gentle nature of all dogs I have ever owned,
This is my puppy…
next to my labbie
Peoples comments certainly are interesting on this thread , good to see so many dog lovers ! I find the culpability issues very interesting . A lot of pit bull owners are saying their little bud is very smart , some are saying that irresponsible owners should be fully responsible for the dogs actions .
Please consider - how can you be responsible for another intelligent creatures actions ? My view is that training and environment accounts for probably 99 % of a dogs behaviour , but can the dog ever be considered responsible for its own actions ? Would certainly make an interesting trial , whaddya think ? ( how do you plead ? Woof ! )
[quote]Chris J wrote:
bound wrote:
Nevermind a pitbull, how about a boerboel? 160 lbs and only about 26" high herd dog.
I love the boerboel breed, mine was the runt of the litterr, so she is smaller then most, 135lbs. They look very vicious, but in fact they have the most gentle nature of all dogs I have ever owned,
This is my puppy…
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Aawwww… Cute . What a smile !
[quote]SouthernBrew wrote:
<<< If none of those are available, depending on the dog(pitbulls tend to be small thus slow) you could make a run for it… >>>[/quote]
The kicking and hitting are funny enough, but it’s impossible for me to believe some of these guys are serious. This desperado here talks about how slow Pits are suggesting you run away (thus guaranteeing a bite) and then talks about how people are smarter than dogs
Now I’d just shoot it.
I’ve had dog come at me. The wife and I were walking the baby and a German Shepherd came after us, very aggressive. Wife stayed put and I took off to draw him away. Saw a pile of firewood and ran towards it. Grabbed a log off the top and gave him a shot to the head. Didn’t kill him but gave him a good shot. It staggered off.
I want to say this thread is stupid but I won’t.
People are acting as if a pit bull is the only deadly dog in existence. As if every other dog has softer teeth or something.
It’s about knowing how your animal is going to react in any given situation and making sure negative situations don’t happen. That is what separates responsible owners from morons.
In spite of the interesting tone in this discussion most of us on this forum probably don’t oppose the responsible ownership of any type of dog.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of the trailer trash gets a better paying job and buys a house in a nice subdivision.
The dipshit owner of the two Pits that tore up my son in 1999 stated that he bought the dogs because they afforded protection for his family. Yet he let his dogs roam the neighborhood unsupervised at various times during the day.
I own firearms for family protection but I would never allow my guns to be away from my direct influence.
I salute the dog owners who take their responsibility seriously and protect their dogs from potentially dangerous situations.
My contempt is reserved for those few unscrupulous owners who think their right to own a dog for personal protection means that “Fido” can roam the neighborhood and threaten other homeowners and children. That type of dog owner losses his investment and has to dig a hole.
See, i dont think i would try to defeat the dog. Just to minimise the damage done to me.
I think if a pit bull bit down on me the teeth would peirce and i wouldnt be able to use my arm. There would be a whole lot of blood but little damage. UNTIL They started thrashing and pulling. Then everything gets torn up. So, i would try my best to get behind it and doing so would probably get one of my arms.
Then i would try to get a hold and lock it up and get its legs out from underneath him. Basicly so he can’t tear me up. He can clamp on that arm all he wants and i would end up at the ER but hopefully i will keep me arm reasonably intact.
In the meantime hopefully some passing stranger would be nice enough to call the cops/animal control.
Thats my philosophy in all violent confrontations. That your going to get hurt and your just going to have to accept getting stitches/broken bones to avoid getting seriously hurt.
I was thinking I would bite back and rip out the dogs throat. Looks like someone beat me to it …
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22018724-2,00.html
Man bites dog (to death)
A CHINESE man bit to death a fierce dog that was savaging his beloved puppy.
Awakened by the puppy’s yelps, a villager named Geng first tried to chase the dog away by hurling watermelons at it, a local newspaper reported today.
The farmer then threw himself on the dog, clamping his teeth around its neck and eventually killing it.
�??The two were rolling around on the ground and fighting for nearly 10 minutes,�?? the Yanzhao Cosmopolitan News in the northern province of Hebei said.
Geng suffered deep cuts to his arms and was treated in hospital. The puppy survived.