You Vs. a Pit Bull

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I agree with contrl. I used to own a 70lb female that I would wrestle with pretty damn hard. She loved it, and with these dogs if you keep kicking up the intensity so will they. But she is a sweetheart and comes from a very good line. Now she lives with my X.

In honesty any bull breed at 70 lbs + is going to be a hell of a fight if it’s serious. You would not believe how strong these dogs really are untill you have seriously wrestled and been bitten. What you guys don’t realize is that when they bite your arm it goes numb for about ten minutes. My girl did it on accident trying to get the tennis ball when we were playing. My hand and forearm literally went numb. I could’nt grip shit. And she was just playing! If she was attacking she would have shread that hand and either dragged or knocked me down in the process. Do you know what it’s like to have a 70LB snapping bowling ball coming at you!! You go down, period.

Honestly, these dogs can be great when raised with love, but also with a strong, consistent hand. AND they come from a solid lineage.

A fight with a bigger Pitty is going to be simply ugly. You will either need something to beat it with, or if you’re tall enough you could hopefully take the first bite on the arm and then drop and smother it. You will have to fight for your life like an animal, don’t hold back.

I have broken up American Bulldog fights (I had to golf it with a damn Large broom) and battled my girl something fierce. I have had two other dogs attack me (labs) so I come from experience. They were other people’s dogs, and I do not know why they attacked, they just did. All I can say is when it happens you have to fight back with EVERYTHING you’ve got. And with Bully’s you will still be going to the ER. These dogs see human’s as child’s play compared to taking on a BULL, or a BEAR.

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[quote]DM246 wrote:
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Half of your posts are exactly the same.

Same story. Over and over.

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One dog bite is more than enough to kill anyone no matter how big you are.
If it rips open your femoral or brachial artery or even tears open your wrist you’ll be dead within a few minutes.
Anything short of a knife or heavy bludgeon of some sort is not going to save you from a well placed bite from an out of control dog.
People who think they can defend themselves unarmed against a dog are stretching their luck.

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My old martial arts instructor taught me how to fight animals that are not significantly bigger than you (i.e. this wouldn’t work against a 600 pound tiger).

Cover your forearm with your shirt if possible and offer it as a ‘sacrifice’. While the offending animal is dining on your arm, scoop the animal up body slam it, landing on top of it with all your weight.

According to my instructor, dogs have relatively weak spines that will break under this kind of pressure, killing the animal.

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check this out:

Bite force competition. Pitbull, Rottweiler, and Shepherd.

Beautiful dogs, but they need to be trained carefully to be safe around people.

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I own a 2 year old APBT who is just calmest, most patient dog. I’ve watched him sit there and let 2 toddlers poke at his eyes and pull his tail without some much as a peep. He did whine to me and made it known that he wanted to get away from these two maniacs, though. It pains me to see there is so much fear of the breed. That’s all I have to say.

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I’d really like to say something cool like “Yeah I’d kick its head like a soccer ball then yell pwned” but honestly…if a pitbull jumped at me and got my neck or arm I’d be out. Those dogs are badass, I must have one.

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pusharder,

damn your boys are great lookin’. i really miss neptune, in my avatar. i’ll never forget when i’d be reading a book or studying and she’d very slowly put her heavy head onto my left lap not to startle me (thoughtful girl), looking up with these eyes. her way of asking for attention and to have her ridiculously muscular head petted several times. she was such a cutie.

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Not to rain on some folks parades but many police/guard dogs these days are being trained not to go for the arm/forearms but for that fleshy spot just below your arm pit. When you perform a lat spread, yeah that’s what they want to bite. If you don’t know how sensitive this area is, stab your self with a fork a few times and you’ll see.

I’m surprised so many took this thread seriously. Singling out Pit Bulls as the aggressor is just ignorant fear mongering. Any dog can attack, especially if your being stupid around it.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
The point I’m trying to make is the power, strength, endurance and savagery is so impressive that I’ve got to say that a man stands very little chance against one of them if they had their mind made up like they have when they are fighting with a bloodlust like they do when fighting each other. It’s stupendous. Staggering.[/quote]

Agreed. While it’s only natural for a man to imagine whether he could slay a give beast, no one would have a chance against a large dog that really wanted to maul him.

That being said, I’d first do nothing in hopes the dog would bore of me. If that didn’t work and it seemed the beast was going “all in,” I’d try to pluck out the dog’s eyes.

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I have very extensive experience with all aspects of working dog training. Both as a handler and as an agitator, oops, they have to be called “helpers” now.

I’ve been on the delivering and receiving end of more dog bites, I’m betting, than everybody else who will ever post in this thread combined… times 10.

There is a UNIVERSE of difference between an ill, backyard bred, un or poorly trained and possibly diseased ghetto beast and a well bred, competently trained dog of any breed.

The absolute, number one, no exceptions, temperament trait of any animal considered for bite training is that it MUST be a thoroughgoing people lover by nature.

The animal must be raised from day one with the knowledge that it will one day be trained to bite and release human beings on command or conditioned circumstance. At least if you want me to be involved.

That early character building consists largely of complete socialization with as many different types, ages and races of people as can be found. They are taught to love humans without reserve. Men, women, children, scratchies, belly rubs, hug love and coo all over em. They should not, however, be allowed to take food from anyone, but the handler because this will come into play with food refusal training later on.

Without getting into all the technical details with all the tug o war, stick, clatter stick, whip and implement work along the way (they are in no way abused and look forward to every minute of it) usually around nine months to a year they begin to be taught that there are rare exceptions to their wonderful experiences with people, but YOU are the one that determines what those are not them.

The short version of this dissertation is that you wind up with an unstoppable warrior that would sarcastically snicker at all the humorous scenarios described here. Knives, gouging, body slams LOL!!! HAR DEE HAR HAR. You ain’t met one of my dogs who, once having incapacitated you could be called off to immediately frolic with a yard fulla pre schoolers who would be safer with that dog than on the couch with their parents.

Of course I do realize that this type of responsible rearing/handling/training is not what’s represented in the media and once again the lowest specimens become the representatives for whole breeds, while idiotic, cruel and even worse, knowledgable mal-training are thought to be the norm.

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hmm, I actually clicked onto this thread thinking there would be some useful information…

Here is what would happen to virtually everyone who does not have extensive training in how to deal with this situation: the initial adrenaline spike that slams down your spine would demand from you fight or flight. However, because you have no training at all for handling these situations you would have no instincts, that is, countermovements that are reactive. Because in those type of situations, ie when you are in fear for your life, there is no time to think - just react. Therefore, likely you would freeze, even as the animal charged up to you and dug into whatever it found first. Then, perhaps due to the realization that flight is not an option, you may instinctually begin to flail uselessly away at the animal, even while your body is beginning to shut down from shock and bloodloss. However, if the animal is trained to kill, likely it would have knocked your terror-frozen body to the ground fairly easily and has already found your throat. Either way, due to shock and bloodloss, you are going down, quickly, within seconds, and what the dog decides to do after that is up to it, not you.

Personally, I can see no reason for having such animals within an inner-city or even city residential area. For the same reason we dont keep crocodiles, bears, tigers etc.

Second, I think if a dog attacks and injures or kills a human, then the owner is charged with the human equivalent. So if the dog kills and did so not in self-defense - then the owner is charged and tried for murder, which would be much more merciful than the biblical prescription of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
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I agree for the most part. It seems ignorant to villify an animal for the exact reasons you mentioned. However, I dont think owners of these and similar animals are required to have the same knowledge and experience as yourself. And for that reason, the slackness in human failure ought to be made up for, not with media-driven hysterics, but in zoning laws restricting ownership and, albeit post-fact, serious penal repercussions for offenses.

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[quote]Scotacus wrote:
hmm, I actually clicked onto this thread thinking there would be some useful information…

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I’ll give ya a hint. With a hard, well trained dog the more ya fight the worse off you are. The more thorough the training the less likely you will ever be at finding a weakness. Since the American Pit Bull terrier is what is mainly under discussion here, lemme say this. The best ones I’ve seen are 40-60 pounds and with proper training nothing short of 3 rounds center mass is going to stop em.

My white n brindle 45 pound male, Finster, who is no longer with us, would have given his life for any of ours gladly and with no hesitation. No amount of beating, slamming, gouging, pummeling or attempted knife attacks (try that one and see what happens =] ) would have deterred him while there was still breath in his lungs. It just never occurred to him that it was even possible that he could lose under any circumstances.

I can still see him droopily staring at me while our then infant daughter crawled all over him in loving torment.

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Id give the full body to body german suplex, drop the People elbow on his nose, and the Atomic Leg drop off the top rope, then ask him if he can smell what the Rock was cookin’. WHOOOO!!!

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I know this is just a hypothetical scenario, but as someone who breeds pits, this really pisses me off. The last thing I [or anyone who know’s the breed] needs is someone else perpetuating the “evil pit” myth.

You’re more likely to have to defend yourself against an out of control labradoodle, but I guess that’s not “hardcore” enough.

Facts are I’ve never been around more loving, caring,friendly and mellow dogs than pits. Obviously they way they’re raised plays a huge role, but from an “untouched” point they’re naturally teddy bears.

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[quote]Scotacus wrote:
Therefore, likely you would freeze, even as the animal charged up to you [/quote]

LOL! Yeah, we would all be frozen in fear from the sight of a 45lb dog charging! Maybe we should be, but, I’m sorry, it’s just not that intimidating.