You Vs. a Pit Bull

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[quote]dragonmamma wrote:
My husband is a letter carrier, and the “official” method of dealing with a biting dog is to stick your finger up his ass–theoretically, he will let go of you.

I’m not sure what’s supposed to happen next–do you just sit there with your finger up his butt until help arrives? Do you give the dog a prostate massage until he becomes your best friend? These questions remain unanswered by the postal service.[/quote]

I’ve seen some mail men here in Madison carry pepper spray or some repellent spray to ward off dogs on their bags.

I’ll have to ask them next time if they are into anal play.

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I own one of these dogs. (They score highest in temperament tests for kids EVERY time and I’ve got a toddler.)

They vary a lot in size, usually 30-70lb. If shouting SIT fails, you’ve only got two options really:

  1. If it’s small, pick it up and throw it far, preferably slamming it down on its back or into something to wind/shock it. Then get on something high which it can’t climb.

  2. If it’s big, you won’t be able to throw it. Hopefully it’s got a collar, in which case grab the collar and twist it tight like a hanging noose. Then straddle the dog and pinch your thighs into its waist (like a horse). This will disable its power (other dogs use their front legs, but having been bred to fight pits drive from the back legs). Then choke it.

Bear in mind that the dog wants to bite your forearms. That’s how the attack humans. Then once you got to ground and the dog has the upper hand, it will want to get your face/throat.

If it bites you, get a strong, 6"ish stick and pry it into its back teeth. Otherwise you will never get its jaw open.

If all else fails, get the front legs and pull them outwards away from each other in the hope of breaking its rib cage.

But in all honesty, you will NOT get away from an encounter without serious injuries, unless you get very, very lucky.

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Forgot to add: punching the dog won’t do anything. It’s almost impossible to hurt a healthy dog that way. Sticking your finger up its ass won’t get you anywhere, either. It will piss it off more. Same with grabbing its balls.

The best thing you can do is make friends with a big, strong dog and playfight with it. Then you’ll be prepared if the day comes when you have to do it for real.

The reaon I wrote so much in response to this question is that it’s a very real possibility that it will happen to a few of you at some time in your lives. There will always be dickheads who get powerful dogs and then don’t raise them properly.

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[quote]cidermonster wrote:
DM246 wrote:

Agreed. Being the aggressor saved my tail early one morning in 1999 when I was out walking. Two Pits came after me and I had no where to go so I turned towards them and starting yelling. Both dogs got within five feet of me and started backing up. My only guess is both Pits thought I was the bigger dog and decided not to attack.

My only regret is not retrieving my shotgun and executing both dogs. They ended up mauling my five year old son about four months later while he was outside playing with a neighbor child.

Lesson learned for me. If a dog comes out of his yard and shows any aggression at all he dies. The life of some else’s dog is not worth the pain and suffering my son went through.

OMG how long ago was this? is your son now alrighgt? i wouldnt hold it against you if you had shot thse dogs, sometimes it has to be done, did you find out who the owner was?
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My son was mauled in June 1999 and had to endure three surgeries and a skin graft. He has recovered fairly well thanks to a wonderful plastic surgeon with a heart for traumatically injured children.

While the scarring is still pretty significant my son is able to cover them with clothing and no longer worries about other kids’ reactions. Additional surgery is expected after he finishes growing so the remaining scars can be reduced in size.

The county law enforcement folks found the owner and quarantined the dogs for 10 days before they were destroyed.

If I had it to do over again I would have been more diligent and killed those dogs myself beforehand. Hence, my “aggression = death” policy.

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Last bit of info:

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It is a 40lb -60 lb dog not a mastiff to start off. That being said, the proper thing to do is to ignore the dog completely. If he actually attacks you, then you need to find some sort of exit / barricade from the dog.

For example find a fence or a door. Move all limbs not gripped in to safety and then wait for the dog to loose the area he has hold of and retreat. I really fricken�?? hate this topic because I love this breed and all of the terror that people have of this dog is from irresponsible owners.

Anyway, pit bulls are gripping dogs so fighting back is not really going to help. This dog has historically been used to catch and hold animals up to the size of a bull and they even have fought them against the likes of bears. The best thing to do is to get to an enclosed area and then if the dog continues to grip get a stick or spatula, something flat and hard, that can be slid in to the dogs mount and then turned to force the dogs jaws open.

This is the only way to get a pit bull off with out it immediately re-biting. It will continue to grip whatever you have used to force the jaws open until it loses interest. Fighting back will just cause the dog to fight harder. Same with if a pit bull attaches your dog.

Send one person for a spatula or thick wooden spoon and have the other person grab both of the back legs of the aggressor, this is what you should do if any dog is fighting, and lift its hid quarters off the ground and start walking backwards. Once the dogs are separate continue to walk in a circle backwards with the aggressor until you are sure that he is calm or you can safely remove yourself with out getting bit.

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So, in other words, let him bite you then walk to the nearest gate (dragging him) and shut it between as much of you and the dog as possible and then wait it out?

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
It is a 40lb -60 lb dog not a mastiff to start off. That being said, the proper thing to do is to ignore the dog completely. If he actually attacks you, then you need to find some sort of exit / barricade from the dog.

For example find a fence or a door. Move all limbs not gripped in to safety and then wait for the dog to loose the area he has hold of and retreat. I really fricken�?? hate this topic because I love this breed and all of the terror that people have of this dog is from irresponsible owners.

Anyway, pit bulls are gripping dogs so fighting back is not really going to help. This dog has historically been used to catch and hold animals up to the size of a bull and they even have fought them against the likes of bears. The best thing to do is to get to an enclosed area and then if the dog continues to grip get a stick or spatula, something flat and hard, that can be slid in to the dogs mount and then turned to force the dogs jaws open.

This is the only way to get a pit bull off with out it immediately re-biting. It will continue to grip whatever you have used to force the jaws open until it loses interest. Fighting back will just cause the dog to fight harder. Same with if a pit bull attaches your dog.

Send one person for a spatula or thick wooden spoon and have the other person grab both of the back legs of the aggressor, this is what you should do if any dog is fighting, and lift its hid quarters off the ground and start walking backwards. Once the dogs are separate continue to walk in a circle backwards with the aggressor until you are sure that he is calm or you can safely remove yourself with out getting bit.[/quote]

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
on edge wrote:
I’m thinking along the same line as you guys except I don’t have confidence I could get a death grip on the dogs throat. They have thick, solid necks and I think if I was able to get a grip on the dogs throat, he would release his grip, break away and come at me again. I wouldn’t want him to get me twice.

With my free hand I’d go for his collar. Once I’ve got that I can rip him off the ground and start slamming him into things.

I also agree with you guys who said to be the aggressor. If you step at them yelling and throwing your arms up the dog is probably alot less likely to strike. I think yelling “NO” would be good. A word they are familiar with. Better not to find out if my combat plan would work in real life.

Are their any Martial Artist here with a combat tactic?

My Staffie has a very thick, muscular neck and I have practiced (but only in play) locating and compresing vulnerable or sensitive spots.

I’m assuming the dog has no collar, but if it did, I would use it to haul the dogs nose up to my mouth where I would bite it as hard as I could.

Dogs rarely get bitten or stung on the nose, but if you’ve seen one that has, you might apprciate just how sensitive that area is to canines. I think that I could induce enough pain in that attacking dog, to get it to release its grip, and not ever want to get another one on me.

But I could be wrong.

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I imagine that once the dog bites onto you, he will begin pulling. I think this would make it very hard to reach down to find a vulnerable area of his throat. You might end up on the ground this way. That’s why I like a quick reach to the collar.

I don’t like the idea of trying to bite his nose, either. If he’s got your arm or fist the angle probably won’t be so great for getting your jaws around his muzzle. Also, it would be easy lifting a 60 lb dog off the ground but not so easy lifting him up to your face when he’s struggling, tearing you up with his front and back paws and the tork on your arm is breaking it in half. What if you do get him up there and he decides he likes face better than fist?

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[quote]on edge wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
on edge wrote:
I’m thinking along the same line as you guys except I don’t have confidence I could get a death grip on the dogs throat. They have thick, solid necks and I think if I was able to get a grip on the dogs throat, he would release his grip, break away and come at me again. I wouldn’t want him to get me twice.

With my free hand I’d go for his collar. Once I’ve got that I can rip him off the ground and start slamming him into things.

I also agree with you guys who said to be the aggressor. If you step at them yelling and throwing your arms up the dog is probably alot less likely to strike. I think yelling “NO” would be good. A word they are familiar with. Better not to find out if my combat plan would work in real life.

Are their any Martial Artist here with a combat tactic?

My Staffie has a very thick, muscular neck and I have practiced (but only in play) locating and compresing vulnerable or sensitive spots.

I’m assuming the dog has no collar, but if it did, I would use it to haul the dogs nose up to my mouth where I would bite it as hard as I could.

Dogs rarely get bitten or stung on the nose, but if you’ve seen one that has, you might apprciate just how sensitive that area is to canines. I think that I could induce enough pain in that attacking dog, to get it to release its grip, and not ever want to get another one on me.

But I could be wrong.

Bushy

I imagine that once the dog bites onto you, he will begin pulling. I think this would make it very hard to reach down to find a vulnerable area of his throat. You might end up on the ground this way. That’s why I like a quick reach to the collar.

I don’t like the idea of trying to bite his nose, either. If he’s got your arm or fist the angle probably won’t be so great for getting your jaws around his muzzle. Also, it would be easy lifting a 60 lb dog off the ground but not so easy lifting him up to your face when he’s struggling, tearing you up with his front and back paws and the tork on your arm is breaking it in half. What if you do get him up there and he decides he likes face better than fist?

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I feel like a strong strike on the nose would do about as much for disabling the dog as a bite would. Repeated strikes straight on with the knuckles onto the peak of the nose would cause enough shock to stun the dog. If youve ever had your nose broken, you know the kind of mental fog you experience immediately after the blow.

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[quote]on edge wrote:
You’re walking down the street, minding your own business, when all of the sudden, out of no where, a Pit Bull comes flying straight at you. He’s out for blood and you barely have time to react.

How are you going to handle him?[/quote]

“ain’t a damn thing changed boy, protect ya neck!”

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I am going to use my superpowers to dodge the onslaught and then find the onwers of the dog and kill them as painfully as possible considering it an excellent contribution to society.

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This is just another reason why I always carry a knife that I can open in half a second. I can shave my skin it is so sharp, so I think it would be pretty damaging going into a dogs skull.

I have also read that pulling the front legs apart will screw any dog up big time. It would be kind of hard in real life though, because I don’t think you would ever be able to get your hands on both its legs.

I also think in general these dogs don’t attack bigger guys. They don’t go in to fights that they have a chance at losing, so I think most of us would be fine.

If I ever saw pit bulls, especially in packs running the streets though, I would do everything in my power to kill them. I don’t care what pit bull owners say; If those dogs are running lose, the chances are way to great that someone will be mauled. A huge number of people get disfigured by dogs, and it’s just not acceptable.

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[quote]ska7e wrote:
<<< What the fuck are you talking about?
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If you don’t know, no explanation is possible on a forum like this. There will be some who get it, very few, but some… I hope.

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[quote]T234 wrote:
This is just another reason why I always carry a knife that I can open in half a second. I can shave my skin it is so sharp, so I think it would be pretty damaging going into a dogs skull.

I have also read that pulling the front legs apart will screw any dog up big time. It would be kind of hard in real life though, because I don’t think you would ever be able to get your hands on both its legs.

I also think in general these dogs don’t attack bigger guys. They don’t go in to fights that they have a chance at losing, so I think most of us would be fine.

If I ever saw pit bulls, especially in packs running the streets though, I would do everything in my power to kill them. I don’t care what pit bull owners say; If those dogs are running lose, the chances are way to great that someone will be mauled. A huge number of people get disfigured by dogs, and it’s just not acceptable. [/quote]

It’s almost not possible to get as many things wrong about dogs in general and the APBT in particular in one short statement as you have here.

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i’m talking about any dog, not just pits, but i figure i would drive my thumb and finger into its eyes until they pop. I’d be surprised if it kept holding on after that and if it lets go it will be blind and not too good at grabbing on again.

I also wonder how far you would have to drive your finger into the socket before you hit brain and kill it.

As a dog lover it is a horrible thought, but so is being attacked

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
My only hope would be that the high pitch squeal coming from me would be high enough to hurt the dog’s ears, and disorient him long enough for me to get out of harm’s way.

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HAH! Love that post. That would be me or I would have to try yelling “want a cookie!” which always gets my dogs attention.

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Arn’t you suppose to pull apart the dog’s jaw or something? lol I’m sure that ain’t easy.

I’m usually on my bike when chased by dogs, so as long as I’m not on a big hill, they can’t catch me.

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Id fuck it in the ass. If it grabbed onto my forearm id lift it up high and hit it missionary style. Cause nothing shows you’re the alpha male like makin it your bitch.

Hopefully it never has to come to that…:slight_smile:
On a serious note I do think that would mess with its head psychologically, especially when a big part of its mind is focused on dominance.

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I own a 90lb pitbull. His name is Sidis, after the intellectual prodigy William James Sidis. Let’s just say it’s a misnomer, because he’s about the dumbest sonofabitch I’ve ever seen. But that’s probably why I love him so much, he’s lovably innocent in every way. Now, I’ve raised my dog to never show the least bit of aggression. I don’t even play tug-o-war with him for fear that it might encourage competition/aggression. I did for a smaller dog I used to have, but for a 90lb pitbull… hell no. I realize that as strong as he is, it would be very, very difficult if not circumstantially impossible for some people to get out of that kind of situation against him unharmed. Therefore, as much as I love him, if he ever harmed anybody, I’d put him down myself. Not only because I couldn’t bare the idea of someone else taking his life, but also because being my dog, it would mean I failed as his owner/master/friend.