You Guys Ready for Sarah Palin Yet?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The analogy with Humpty Dumpty is a clever one because the issue with Palin is not that she is too stupid but it is because, unlike Humpty Dumpty, her integrity is still intact.

People with integrity are not good candidates for high political office since they are hard to be “broken”:
They are not good at being manipulated and cannot be “bought”.

It is not surprising envy drives the opposition to “break” their reputation instead.

In a mature way, of course.
Otherwise, one cannot climb over integrity without appearing superior.

Image over Integrity.

We seem to have lost image of how integrity behaves.[/quote]

If you consider campaigning for ,receiving and quitting an elected post then you are correct
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Well, Palin and your buddy Frank have at least one thing in common.

Whahahahahaa…(clears throat) that one cracked me up :slight_smile:

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Sarah would never sign anything of this sort.

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I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]

Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.

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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]

I stand corrected on the number of years but I am correct on the number of deaths by terrorism. Adolph Dubs was the most recent Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. The date of his death was 1979. That was 33 years ago (not 40). That’s when we had another ineffectual democratic President, Jimmy Carter. I guess the terrorists just seem to know huh? . . .

As for Obama’s foreign policy, he doesn’t have one. But you already know that you’re a sharp guy.

As for Palin, I would say in raw intelligence she is in obama’s league no question. I honestly think that Obama is far more sizzle than steak.

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Nope. Wrong again. Cleo A. Noel was assassinated by the PLO (Black September) in 1973 during the Nixon administration. Your quick google search should have informed you of that. Also, you never said deaths by “terrorism.” Rather, you said “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.” Regardless, how would you be correct if you weren’t aware of the deaths in the first place? [/quote]

LOL…1979 came 6 years after 1973. That means that the most recent terrorist attack to kill one of our Ambassadors was 33 years ago.

You’re going to read this and feel silly huh?

That’s okay…most people eventually end up feeling that way who try to defend Obama.[/quote]

I’m glad I could correct you after you made a declarative statement concerning a subject you are clearly unversed on. You still won’t admit your mistake but hey you wouldn’t be ZEB if you did that right?[/quote]

My mistake was that I said it was 40 years ago and it was only 33 years ago. Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.

Just give it up, go kiss your Obama ring and call it a thread.[/quote]

1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”

2-I proved your claim to be patently false

3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.

You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.

Here’s literally the 1st result on google. That was difficult.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/the-7-us-ambassadors-killed-in-the-line-of-duty-photos.php

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”

2-I proved your claim to be patently false

3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.

You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.

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(Steps up to the podium) ladies and gentlemen there is really only one way to say this, Legionary is a liar!

While I admitted that it was in fact 32 years and not 40 years since an Ambassador was killed. The point is still the same. The last time an Ambassador was killed by terrorists was during the other inept democrats administration, Jimmy Carter. The liar Legionary (he also makes love to his dog I heard) stated that there were a number of Ambassador’s who were killed by terrorists this is a flat out lie! Just one more lie that he has heaped on a pile of factually incorrect statements.

And now I will sit back and wait for this dog loving piece of excrement to once again use his posting time to say “nuh uh you said 40 year na na na na I got you I got you” as most little boys who just found the Internet do.

LMAO…go ahead little man we need to spend more time on this (eye roll). Your hero Obama would be so proud of you right now. You are lying with the best of them.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The analogy with Humpty Dumpty is a clever one because the issue with Palin is not that she is too stupid but it is because, unlike Humpty Dumpty, her integrity is still intact.

People with integrity are not good candidates for high political office since they are hard to be “broken”:
They are not good at being manipulated and cannot be “bought”.

It is not surprising envy drives the opposition to “break” their reputation instead.

In a mature way, of course.
Otherwise, one cannot climb over integrity without appearing superior.

Image over Integrity.

We seem to have lost image of how integrity behaves.[/quote]

If you consider campaigning for ,receiving and quitting an elected post then you are correct
[/quote]

Well, Palin and your buddy Frank have at least one thing in common.

Whahahahahaa…(clears throat) that one cracked me up :)[/quote]

I bet they have more in common than you’d believe :slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The analogy with Humpty Dumpty is a clever one because the issue with Palin is not that she is too stupid but it is because, unlike Humpty Dumpty, her integrity is still intact.

People with integrity are not good candidates for high political office since they are hard to be “broken”:
They are not good at being manipulated and cannot be “bought”.

It is not surprising envy drives the opposition to “break” their reputation instead.

In a mature way, of course.
Otherwise, one cannot climb over integrity without appearing superior.

Image over Integrity.

We seem to have lost image of how integrity behaves.[/quote]

If you consider campaigning for ,receiving and quitting an elected post then you are correct
[/quote]

Well, Palin and your buddy Frank have at least one thing in common.

Whahahahahaa…(clears throat) that one cracked me up :)[/quote]

I bet they have more in common than you’d believe :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Hmm…shall we count them?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”

2-I proved your claim to be patently false

3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.

You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.

[/quote]

(Steps up to the podium) ladies and gentlemen there is really only one way to say this, Legionary is a liar!

While I admitted that it was in fact 32 years and not 40 years since an Ambassador was killed. The point is still the same. The last time an Ambassador was killed by terrorists was during the other inept democrats administration, Jimmy Carter. The liar Legionary (he also makes love to his dog I heard) stated that there were a number of Ambassador’s who were killed by terrorists this is a flat out lie! Just one more lie that he has heaped on a pile of factually incorrect statements.

And now I will sit back and wait for this dog loving piece of excrement to once again use his posting time to say “nuh uh you said 40 year na na na na I got you I got you” as most little boys who just found the Internet do.

LMAO…go ahead little man we need to spend more time on this (eye roll). Your hero Obama would be so proud of you right now. You are lying with the best of them.[/quote]

When you can’t make a coherent argument you resort to ad hominems. You were incorrect regarding both the time line and causes of death of the 4 ambassadors I listed, MAKING DECLARATIVE STATEMENTS that I showed to be absolutely false. Want to look again? Category: DC - TPM – Talking Points Memo

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

Really good post Alpha![/quote]

Thank you kindly.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

The time is near when decency and honor will trump slippery talk and shady characters. The MSM is dying so they won’t be able to assasinate anyone anymore like they did to Palin.

The rule of the rats is ending.
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I must admit I do not feel as hopeful as you do and I sincerely hope that you are right.

If the majority has been fundamentally changed then the disorder has mutated into a disease that has permeated society.

Only those with a core of integrity will be immune to it and unfortunate enough to still have to live among it.

And that is why I hope you are right about the timing.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The analogy with Humpty Dumpty is a clever one because the issue with Palin is not that she is too stupid but it is because, unlike Humpty Dumpty, her integrity is still intact.

People with integrity are not good candidates for high political office since they are hard to be “broken”:
They are not good at being manipulated and cannot be “bought”.

It is not surprising envy drives the opposition to “break” their reputation instead.

In a mature way, of course.
Otherwise, one cannot climb over integrity without appearing superior.

Image over Integrity.

We seem to have lost image of how integrity behaves.[/quote]

It is a good post, AlphaF…

And I hope that you meant it to be true independent of Political Party or Political Ideology.

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

It is a good post, AlphaF…

And I hope that you meant it to be true independent of Political Party or Political Ideology.

Mufasa[/quote]

Yes, I did.

This is my third culture and I am a guest in this country.

I don’t have a political identity ( liberal, conservative, libertarian ), neither do I want to have an attachment to one in particular.

What is happening to America is truly sad. Such a great country!

But being socially weak will bring you ruin.
Being politically identified can blind people to what and who are bringing the demise of American society.

Losing a grip on internal values such as integrity, courage, and humble self-worth causes us to look for false gods to hold on to.

A political party is not a replacement for a core of integrity.

America, you need to rebuild your society from within.

Lose your spirit and you will lose your country.

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Thanks, AF!

Mufasa

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If you consider campaigning for ,receiving and quitting an elected post then you are correct

hey pitbull…you have any idea about why she had to quit??? The many allegations she was forced to go to court to defend were all politics…trumped up false charges…None of them stuck…She almost went bankrupt trying to defend herself…She certainly spent more time doing her job than obama…
ALL the charges were dismissed…why cant the libs tell us that?? Why is it that when a smart, conservative, white family woman gets a job in politics she is dumb and has no business in politics? Make her a liberal black lesbian and she is good as gold…
double standard in the liberal community has never been higher.
Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable

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[quote]steviebeast wrote:

Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]

Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?

His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring.

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]steviebeast wrote:

Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]

Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?

His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring. [/quote]

Exactly - he has got be kidding??

Count down to “that’s just another example of malicious editing by the media” in 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1…

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… but lack of foreign policy knowledge aside, atleast Herman Cain has proper credentials and he is clearly an intelligent individual.

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”

2-I proved your claim to be patently false

3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.

You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.

[/quote]

(Steps up to the podium) ladies and gentlemen there is really only one way to say this, Legionary is a liar!

While I admitted that it was in fact 32 years and not 40 years since an Ambassador was killed. The point is still the same. The last time an Ambassador was killed by terrorists was during the other inept democrats administration, Jimmy Carter. The liar Legionary (he also makes love to his dog I heard) stated that there were a number of Ambassador’s who were killed by terrorists this is a flat out lie! Just one more lie that he has heaped on a pile of factually incorrect statements.

And now I will sit back and wait for this dog loving piece of excrement to once again use his posting time to say “nuh uh you said 40 year na na na na I got you I got you” as most little boys who just found the Internet do.

LMAO…go ahead little man we need to spend more time on this (eye roll). Your hero Obama would be so proud of you right now. You are lying with the best of them.[/quote]

When you can’t make a coherent argument you resort to ad hominems. You were incorrect regarding both the time line and causes of death of the 4 ambassadors I listed, MAKING DECLARATIVE STATEMENTS that I showed to be absolutely false. Want to look again? Category: DC - TPM – Talking Points Memo

You nut I already posted 4 or 5 “coherent” posts. I immediately admitted that I was 8 years off as to the previous Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. But at least I had it right relative to how he died. But unlike you I didn’t ramble off a list of Ambassadors who died in car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit. At this point I am just mocking you because of your childish behavior. That I have to point that out does not speak very well for your ability to discern coherency from comedy gold.

You were wrong about the Ambassadors, let it go.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

It is a good post, AlphaF…

And I hope that you meant it to be true independent of Political Party or Political Ideology.

Mufasa[/quote]

Yes, I did.

This is my third culture and I am a guest in this country.

I don’t have a political identity ( liberal, conservative, libertarian ), neither do I want to have an attachment to one in particular.

What is happening to America is truly sad. Such a great country!

But being socially weak will bring you ruin.
Being politically identified can blind people to what and who are bringing the demise of American society.

Losing a grip on internal values such as integrity, courage, and humble self-worth causes us to look for false gods to hold on to.

A political party is not a replacement for a core of integrity.

America, you need to rebuild your society from within.

Lose your spirit and you will lose your country.

[/quote]

It’s already gone. Just look at the entitlement society, our culture of pornography, the political landscape, the filth and violence that Hollywood sells us. And of course the left wing media always right there to tell us how wonderful abortion, gun restriction and homosexual marriage are. It will take an act of God to restore the United States of America!

But it certainly did not begin with Obama. He is only a symptom of what has been brewing for about 50 years. I firmly believe that we’ll get worse than Obama over the next 10-20 years.

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?

(Raises hand) Me!

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[quote]winkel wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]steviebeast wrote:

Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]

Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?

His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring. [/quote]

Exactly - he has got be kidding??

Count down to “that’s just another example of malicious editing by the media” in 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1…[/quote]

You won’t hear me saying that. Cain is not Presidential timber. I’m thankful that those women stepped up and harpooned his chances. While I felt sorry for his wife, Cain should have known that stuff would come out. You cannot run for President as a republican and not expect the media to fricassee you until you are well done. They had nothing on Romney so they made stuff up. What was it? Oh yeah, he was a bullly as kid and a dog abuser. (eyr roll).And let’s not forget evil rich guy. Of course you can’t be wealthy without being evil according to the media.

Whereas, Obama could have been a former Marxist who hung out with terrorists and attended a racist church for 20 years and they wouldn’t have talked about it. Oh wait…that’s what he was and they didn’t talk about it.

See.

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]steviebeast wrote:

Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]

Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?

His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring. [/quote]

This is a good one, but I really enjoyed the one where he clearly had no idea what, if anything, was happening in Libya in 2011. Or where he says China is trying to get the bomb, which in fact they’ve had since 1964.