Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]
Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?
His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring. [/quote]
This is a good one, but I really enjoyed the one where he clearly had no idea what, if anything, was happening in Libya in 2011. Or where he says China is trying to get the bomb, which in fact they’ve had since 1964.[/quote]
I love Herman Cane’s series of one-on-one’s with Colbert. Pure gold.
1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”
2-I proved your claim to be patently false
3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.
You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.
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(Steps up to the podium) ladies and gentlemen there is really only one way to say this, Legionary is a liar!
While I admitted that it was in fact 32 years and not 40 years since an Ambassador was killed. The point is still the same. The last time an Ambassador was killed by terrorists was during the other inept democrats administration, Jimmy Carter. The liar Legionary (he also makes love to his dog I heard) stated that there were a number of Ambassador’s who were killed by terrorists this is a flat out lie! Just one more lie that he has heaped on a pile of factually incorrect statements.
And now I will sit back and wait for this dog loving piece of excrement to once again use his posting time to say “nuh uh you said 40 year na na na na I got you I got you” as most little boys who just found the Internet do.
LMAO…go ahead little man we need to spend more time on this (eye roll). Your hero Obama would be so proud of you right now. You are lying with the best of them.[/quote]
When you can’t make a coherent argument you resort to ad hominems. You were incorrect regarding both the time line and causes of death of the 4 ambassadors I listed, MAKING DECLARATIVE STATEMENTS that I showed to be absolutely false. Want to look again? Category: DC - TPM – Talking Points Memo
You nut I already posted 4 or 5 “coherent” posts. I immediately admitted that I was 8 years off as to the previous Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. But at least I had it right relative to how he died. But unlike you I didn’t ramble off a list of Ambassadors who died in car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit. At this point I am just mocking you because of your childish behavior. That I have to point that out does not speak very well for your ability to discern coherency from comedy gold.
You were wrong about the Ambassadors, let it go.[/quote]
Seriously, how stupid are you? LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE AMBASSADOR I LISTED WAS MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. Normally I wouldn’t take such issue with someone who is too blinded by politics to vet basic history, but these men deserve more than “car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit.”
I listed
–Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
–Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
–Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
–Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)
So were the instruments of death used by these terrorist organizations “car accidents, heart attacks and other random shit”? When you spout off about historical events you WEREN’T EVEN AWARE OF you sound almost senile ZEB.
yes…what on earth did obama know about foreign policy? zero! His gaffes would make a highlight reel…but the media dont let you know that. Hermann cain is a great LEADER!! thats what presidents are really. They dont really know anything but what intelligence informs them–they need to make decisions based on morals and proper needs for OUR country…not the rest of the world which obama seems to think is more important. Cain would have been great. Simple knowledge of foreign leaders etc doesnt make one a great leader…
Herman cain also…look what they did to him…the libs are afraid of a conservative black man…especially when he can run circles around obama in every way imaginable[/quote]
Yep. Who wouldn’t want Cain to be America’s chief diplomat?
His command of Foreign Policy is awe inspiring. [/quote]
This is a good one, but I really enjoyed the one where he clearly had no idea what, if anything, was happening in Libya in 2011. Or where he says China is trying to get the bomb, which in fact they’ve had since 1964.[/quote]
Yeah I thought about those, but decided to convey his utter lack of respect for the international community while he was running as a candidate for our nation’s highest office.
[quote]steviebeast wrote:
he wants a collapse…read clower and piven…its in the works[/quote]
Why would he want a collapse? His ego is so large that he, more than anyone wants to succeed. Oh he won’t don’t worry…but he wants to.[/quote]
Ignoring this post I see?
"Seriously, how stupid are you? LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE AMBASSADOR I LISTED WAS MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. Normally I wouldn’t take such issue with someone who is too blinded by politics to vet basic history, but these men deserve more than “car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit.”
I listed
–Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
–Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
–Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
–Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)
So were the instruments of death used by these terrorist organizations “car accidents, heart attacks and other random shit”? When you spout off about historical events you WEREN’T EVEN AWARE OF you sound almost senile ZEB. "
How many times do I have to restate the obvious? Scroll back I’m tired of posting it.
You were wrong about other Ambassadors being killed by terrorists. You rattled off a meaningless list of those dying by other events. But you want to be right so bad that you keep coming back like a little punk wet behind the ears who cannot stand to be corrected.
1- You made a declarative, concrete statement. “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.”
2-I proved your claim to be patently false
3- After your quick google search where you hopefully realized you were full of shit, you said “Your mistake was not even knowing that terrorists killed an Ambassador, and your second mistake was including Ambassador’s that were killed by car accidents, heart attacks etc.” Bullshit and bullshit. Every man I listed was murdered in the countries in which they were serving. YOU DIDN’T EVEN KNOW OF THEM UNTIL YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH, which evidently didn’t do much because you are still babbling on like an imbecile.
You have no ground to stand on ZEB. I don’t frantically google economic theories and attempt to argue in economic discussions for the sake of arguing because I frankly don’t have the educational background to do so. You should follow my example when it comes to Foreign Policy.
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(Steps up to the podium) ladies and gentlemen there is really only one way to say this, Legionary is a liar!
While I admitted that it was in fact 32 years and not 40 years since an Ambassador was killed. The point is still the same. The last time an Ambassador was killed by terrorists was during the other inept democrats administration, Jimmy Carter. The liar Legionary (he also makes love to his dog I heard) stated that there were a number of Ambassador’s who were killed by terrorists this is a flat out lie! Just one more lie that he has heaped on a pile of factually incorrect statements.
And now I will sit back and wait for this dog loving piece of excrement to once again use his posting time to say “nuh uh you said 40 year na na na na I got you I got you” as most little boys who just found the Internet do.
LMAO…go ahead little man we need to spend more time on this (eye roll). Your hero Obama would be so proud of you right now. You are lying with the best of them.[/quote]
When you can’t make a coherent argument you resort to ad hominems. You were incorrect regarding both the time line and causes of death of the 4 ambassadors I listed, MAKING DECLARATIVE STATEMENTS that I showed to be absolutely false. Want to look again? Category: DC - TPM – Talking Points Memo
You nut I already posted 4 or 5 “coherent” posts. I immediately admitted that I was 8 years off as to the previous Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. But at least I had it right relative to how he died. But unlike you I didn’t ramble off a list of Ambassadors who died in car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit. At this point I am just mocking you because of your childish behavior. That I have to point that out does not speak very well for your ability to discern coherency from comedy gold.
You were wrong about the Ambassadors, let it go.[/quote]
Seriously, how stupid are you? LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE AMBASSADOR I LISTED WAS MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. Normally I wouldn’t take such issue with someone who is too blinded by politics to vet basic history, but these men deserve more than “car wrecks, heart attacks and other random bullshit.”
I listed
–Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
–Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
–Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
–Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)
So were the instruments of death used by these terrorist organizations “car accidents, heart attacks and other random shit”? When you spout off about historical events you WEREN’T EVEN AWARE OF you sound almost senile ZEB.
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How many times do I have to restate the obvious? Scroll back I’m tired of posting it.
You were wrong about other Ambassadors being killed by terrorists. You rattled off a meaningless list of those dying by other events. But you want to be right so bad that you keep coming back like a little punk wet behind the ears who cannot stand to be corrected.
Again…Let it go junior.[/quote]
I really can’t comprehend how someone could be so blinded by the need to be right that they are unable to accept documented, historical fact.
–Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
–Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
–Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
–Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)
Where are the accidents there? Are you seriously that deluded ZEB? YOU WEREN’T EVEN AWARE THESE MEN HAD BEEN KILLED, MUCH LESS HOW THEY DIED.
My original statement was "this is the first Ambassador that has been killed by terrorists in 40 years. Turns out it was 32 years, and I gave you a nod on that one. But nonetheless I was correct. I never said that there were no Ambassadors killed BEFORE that time period.
let me give you an example you can understand Junior.
If I said that Kennedy was the first President assassinated since William McKinley in 1901 will you respond by saying “Nu uh Zeb there was Abraham Lincoln in 1865 and James Garfield in 1881, and um Roosevelt and Warren Harding died in office…so there.”
Why are you so dense?
I picture you sitting in front of your TV watching MSNBC and saying “Yeah that’s right dirty fucking republicans…GET EM!”
My original statement was "this is the first Ambassador that has been killed by terrorists in 40 years. Turns out it was 32 years, and I gave you a nod on that one. But nonetheless I was correct. I never said that there were no Ambassadors killed BEFORE that time period.
let me give you an example you can understand Junior.
If I said that Kennedy was the first President assassinated since William McKinley in 1901 will you respond by saying “Nu uh Zeb there was Abraham Lincoln in 1865 and James Garfield in 1881, and um Roosevelt and Warren Harding died in office…so there.”
Why are you so dense?
I picture you sitting in front of your TV watching MSNBC and saying “Yeah that’s right dirty fucking republicans…GET EM!”
LOL
your love for Obama driving you insane?
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Cool. You can rephrase what I said to misrepresent my argument. The vast majority of the posters in PWI are intelligent enough to see what you’re doing. You do realize that right? This isn’t about politics, republicans or democrats. This is about the ambassadors that were murdered in the course of their diplomatic duties. These are the men I listed. You went on to say that they were not killed by terrorists, but “killed by car accidents, heart attacks and other random shit.” So let’s examine the names I listed again.
-Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
–Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
–Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
–Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)
Were these men murdered or not? Fox News, a source you frequently use, lists these men as victims of terrorist attacks. You have denied the historical facts rather idiotically up to this point.
My original statement was "this is the first Ambassador that has been killed by terrorists in 40 years. Turns out it was 32 years, and I gave you a nod on that one. But nonetheless I was correct. I never said that there were no Ambassadors killed BEFORE that time period.
let me give you an example you can understand Junior.
If I said that Kennedy was the first President assassinated since William McKinley in 1901 will you respond by saying “Nu uh Zeb there was Abraham Lincoln in 1865 and James Garfield in 1881, and um Roosevelt and Warren Harding died in office…so there.”
Why are you so dense?
I picture you sitting in front of your TV watching MSNBC and saying “Yeah that’s right dirty fucking republicans…GET EM!”
LOL
your love for Obama driving you insane?
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Cool. You can rephrase what I said to misrepresent my argument. The vast majority of the posters in PWI are intelligent enough to see what you’re doing. You do realize that right?[/quote]
First of all junior try to get over yourself. This is a bodybuilding website with a really great political forum but most of the posters are more concerned about their own debates than you and I. I didn’t point out the truth to win anyone over, nor do I care who likes me and who doesn’t. I’m from a different era where you argue the truth for the sake of it not win friends and influence people. Clear on that?
Secondly, I merely pointed out a fact, that it has been a heck of a long time since an American diplomat has been taken out by terrorists. And I am correct, you’ve shown nothing to the contrary.
That’s odd because in a post on 1-4-13 at 12:01 you accused me of repeating the FOX talking points. So, I guess at that time you wanted it to be about politics. Now it’s about something else because you’ve lost the political debate? One can only guess where you’re going now you’ve changed positions so many times.
No actually it’s not about those other Ambassador’s who were killed in the line of duty, as I never claimed that others were not killed. And you must know that, or you’re dumb one or the other.
As I pointed out with an example that you could easily understand above. I know you want it to be about how many were killed but it simply is not and it never was. My original claim (for the 6th time) was that we have not had an Ambassador killed in 40 years. While I was off by 8 years and we had not had one killed since 1979 my point it the same. That point is it’s been a long time since an American Ambassador was taken out by terrorists. The last time was under the other failed democrat Jimmy Carter, the most recent under the failed democrat Barack Obama.
Again, mentioning that other Ambassadors were killed before 1979 is totally irrelevant to my original point. And quite honestly a 10 year old could grasp this by now.
So thanks for mentioning the other Ambassadors who died but that really has nothing to do with my main point. That is, it has been a heck of a long time since the last murder of a US Ambassador.
Now, if you can come up with an Ambassador who was killed by terrorists after 1979 you have won the argument. If you cannot all you’ve contributed is a short list of other Ambassador’s who have died in the line of duty before 1979. All very interesting but none of it disproves my original claim?
So where do we go from here?
Do you want to repost the Ambassadors that were killed in the line of duty before 1979 again?
hey Legionary…so my post about clower and piven…are you with it or against it? who anyway watches msnbc…? Its almost like a cartoon…Schultz is dumb as a doorknob.
I agree about the ambassador thing. But not too many people know about how the extreme left want to sink us through economic decay until the capitalist thing breaks down…
[quote]steviebeast wrote:
hey Legionary…so my post about clower and piven…are you with it or against it?
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Your post about Cloward-Piven is nonsense.
The premise that Barack Obama came to power with the intention to preside over an economic collapse and subsequent welfare overload is untenable in light of the fact that he, more than any President since FDR, took office in the midst of a situation in which collapse actually seemed like something more than a pipe dream and, under the guidance of a cadre of establishment capitalist economists, took action to avert it.
AIG was bailed out and then re-privatized. Chrysler and GM were bailed out in a move, begged-for by the genuflecting management of all of the Big Three (including Ford), that saved our economy an estimated 4 million jobs. Surely those 4 million would have put additional strain on the welfare system, no? Why not allow them to?
Tell me, why would a man hell-bent on economic collapse become the steward of the American economy as it teetered on the verge of catastrophe and then stop that collapse from happening? Why would he sign a fiscal cliff deal–surely you’ve heard that if we were to go over the cliff without any kind of adjustments we could have been back in recession within months? Why would he allow the economy to add jobs month after month?
Why, in other words, would an enemy of capitalism step in and save American capitalism?
what??? why dont you look up what percentage of the economy is now operated by the government and not free capitalism as compared with when he took office…What about the thousands of regulations which are killing businesses…of course he isnt going to come in and shut down capitalism in our face because everyone would recognize that…hello!? He is clearly gradually making government the control of our economy slowly and most surely. All his moves are designed to get rid of free market and individualism. Naturally its done skillfully and not so obviously. We are on a steady downhill course. Nothing he does helps our businesses…look at GM…all the money lost…even when GM tried to pay back and get out of the deal recently the white house said no…He wants control of everything. He is even more into this data tapping and secret espionage on us that bush was and thats hard to imagine. He is more secretive that Bush…The entire agenda he has is corrupt. All you Rachel Maddow lovers will come running someday and wonder what happened…just you wait.
this fiscal cliff deal isnt a deal…when will we ever stop spending??? when? does anyone on the left thing we spend too much???
