if theres a girl or guy here that can outlift me, id like to see it. yes, i do sometimes come off a bit strong, i mainly did that to get a good response. but i bench press about 585lbs, i can close grip well over 450lbs. i can military press just about 400lbs. ive done bent over rows with 415lbs for 8 reps. yes, i admit i’m a bit sexist, and to say some little girl would beat me up, this isn’t charlies angels were the girls beat up the men. this is real life. so before you say some little girl is going to outlift me, be carefull what you say. as far as little guys beating me up, lol, while some big guys can’t fight to save their life, i have many years of martial arts, kickboxing, boxing and wrestling experience, that combined with my size and strength, would make me pretty hard to beat.
Apparently you skipped out on the mental/spiritual side of your martial arts training.
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Kind of sad, really. Poor guy’s whole self-esteem adn sense of worth seems wrapped up in being a big, roided up meathead. So much so that he feels the need to attack those who don’t have the same goal. I think all he really needs is a hug.
Big Conan, you have no idea what being hardcore means.
You equate being hardcore to being big and doing a mere 2 reps with a lot of weight.
I equate being hardcore to three things: being strong of MIND first and foremost; strong of spirit; and strong of body.
You say to be hardcore you need to be a huge guy - as humanly possible - and bench press ridiculous ammounts of weight.
I say being hardcore involves a miriad of thing - being strong of mind to handle a situation no matter how horrible and inhumane it may be; the spiritual strength to get you through that situation and a strong sense of values from leadership to the ability to upt yourself in harm's way for the man next to you; to the ability to lift good ammounts of weight; to the ability to lift decent ammounts of weight for prolonged periods of time; to excellent cardio endurance; to the ability to handle physical hardships from exhaustion to lack of water and food, to physical threats... to the ability to defend yourself, and to the slyness and ability to come up with a way to get yourself out of a bad situation or defeat your enemy.
See my point? In MY picture, bench pressing 450 and weighing 265 lbs is only a very small fraction of the whole picture of being HARDCORE, if not somewhat counterproductive as it is nothing but a big extreme which reduces all the other qualities needed to be HARDCORE all around. I'm afraid you fell into the classic error of mistaking the trees for the forest, buddy.
As for the 'whimpy' 160 lbers...A good friend of mine is a Martial Arts instructor - no big deal in and of itself. He teaches Kun Tao, and he weighs 160 lbs. He also has a 6 pack. He will kill you with his bare hands. You, Conan, would be a dead man at his hands. You wanna know why? Because besides being physically strong he has actual physical endurance; He has the strongest most determined mind I know; and he has a very strong sense of values - he doesnt go around displaying his skill, and he doesnt make it a point to make sure everybody knows just how good he is. You would never know how deadly the guy is. He doesnt keep whining about stupid insignificant things.
Take a Marine f.ex. Most Marines dont weigh 265 lbs and bench press 450 lbs. No, they do countless push-ups, situps, they run for prolonged periods of time day and day out. They train in fields where C4 is detonated to get them ready for battle. They may see things most cant handle, and hear things most cant handle. But they get ready for it. And against what you may believe, they're more courteous and thoughtful than most weightlifter you see at a gym - they're professional...killers, but professional. They defend our country, and that is their feat and the reason they train the way they do. Whats is YOUR feat? Weighing 265 lbs and bench pressing 450 lbs so that when you put on a tight shirt everybody can be sure to see your big 20 inch guns? That my friend is not Hardcore. In fact that is what in many ways has given a bad reputation to bodybuilders - who train to have outstanding bodies just so they look good at the gym, but come time for action all they do is whine and do nothing. Bodybuilders arent leaders, they wont put their lives on the line for the man next to them, and they, for the most part have no strong character (and no, whining and complaining, or walking around with a lot of bravado does not qualify as strong character, but rather as a need for attention if anything)
At my gym in particular, there are about 3 big guys - powerlifter style. Well, here's the funny thing: one of them, a 275 lb big guy, known for lifting huge ammounts of weight, cant squat anymore. He's had 4 operations to both his knees. All he EVER does is chest press and biceps curls now. The other guy never squats either, because he doesnt want to end up like that other guy with screwed up knees. So all he does is his upper body now. To me they dont qualify as hardcore in the least...1) fucking up your knees for good is not harcore - it's STUPID, 2) stopping squatting and deadlifting altogether because you know somebody who misused those 2 lifts is not hardcore - it's weakness of mind. You know who the hardcore lifters at my gym are? They are a couple of 185-205 lb guys who are tough of mind, have a great sense of values; and are physically fit ALL AROUND.
Furthermore, it is my opinion that the huge guys tend to be a conglomerate of losers. They whine and complain about not getting laid, about fucked up knees, about work, about taxes, about wanting to move to Florida or California but then doing nothing about it... For everything there's a balance. Im pretty sure an extreme - a huge guy with no endurance but can do a couple reps with huge ammounts of weight - is not the image of a hardcore man.
Come on guys, he’s a TROLL! Why even bother?
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ok, i will tone this down a bit. as far as your buddy martial arts instructor killing me with his bare hands, lets just say, i started martial arts when i was 9, along the way, i did kickboxing for many years and also boxing, and also competed in wrestling. as you see, the big weakness in most martial artists is their lack of different types of training, if uve ever watched the ultimate fighting or anything goes, for the most part, the guys that win are the big strong wrestlers. remember one thing, the bigger stronger animal will always always always win, just look at nature, the lion would kill a cheetah, but the crocodile would kill the lion. just as in humans, the bigger stronger person will always win, given that his skill level is equal, of course if u get some out of shape 240lb guy that can’t fight and put him with roy jones jr or a bruce lee type, they would get killed. ok, im rambling now, forgot what my point was.
A bunch of “Hardcore” professional bodybuilders take it in the grocery hole.
And Conan, you should know better than anyone else a couple things:
In the context of Martial Arts and size:
1) In a fight where you know Martial Arts, you should know that size is irrelevant. Tell an Aikido student that you can kill him with your bare hands because you're huge and he'll laugh at you straight in your face. Why? Because he knows all he needs to do is use your huge ammounts of weight and force against you. how does he do that? Very Simple, he waits for you to charge at him, slide 2 feet off to the side, and give you a little push against to aid you in your movement. He waits for you to punch him and uses that movement against you.
A Kun Tao fighter is even more deadly. What are you gonna do when he jabs you in your eyes? In your throat? kicks your balls? Your knees? What are you gonna do when he gives you a deadlock and knocks you unconscious in a mer 7 seconds? What are you gonna do when he grabs your had tight and squats down while turning your head to the side - breaking your neck? See, being big does nothing for you when the guys knows how to fight in the Martial Arts world. So while your size may make you 'pretty hard to beat' with someone who doesnt know how to fight, you're on the same level if you're fighting someone who knows how fight.
2: Those who run their mouths off the most are the ones with the least skill. Talk to an unexperienced Martial Arts student and he'll run his mouth off to you, even though he still doesnt know squat. Talk to an experienced, talented, seasoned Martial Arts fighter, and he wont say anymore than he needs to say - he knows he can defend himself and make your life miserable if you mess with him, so why bother running his mouth off? Reminds me of dogs: the more they bark the more they run with their tails in between their legs when another dog challenges them. In other words the bigger the mouth, the bigger the pussy.
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Ok, big Conan - bigger animals ALWAYS defeat the smaller animals. Which should explain why a snake can kill a Gazelle or a human, right? Or why a lion can kill a Gazelle right? Or why lions kill buffalos right? Or why crocodiles kill hypos right? I mean Lions MUST BE bigger than a Gazelle, and definitely MUCH BIGGER than a Buffalo...
See, the reason why lions can kill a buffalo is not their size. It's their ferocity, their teeth, their speed, their endurance to go after them without falling with fatigue. Ask a hypo to do the same fuckin thing and what happens? The poor thing cant do any of those things. See, the lions are fit to defeat other animals all around -buffallo, rabbit, gazelle, or elephant, they can run after them at a good speed for prolonged periods of time, and strike them with their teeth - their advantage is not having 20 inch front legs and bench pressing 585 lbs... They can HIDE and wait for the moment to strike, without roaring and making a helluva noise about how strong they are...No, they stay there quiet. The gazelle doesnt need to know how strong the lion is, because if she hears the lion, the lion loses a prey. So the lion knows to keep to himself.
I can imagine Bigconan as a lion. 'RRRRROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!...oh shit, there goes another lost prey, DAMN IT!!!! There's always something wrong, either I lose a fuckin prey, or its taxes too high, or its a bad job, or its my infant lions always crying for this n that, God I wish I could move to Florida where it's sunny and taxes are lower...' Typical loser - all he does is whine and make sure EVERYBODY knows just how strong they are...Because they just MUST know...
WELL, saying that guys that run their mouths are not good or don’t have any skills, roy jones jr, runs his mouth alot, yet hes perhaps the best fighter ever. muhammid ali, now he really ran his mouth, yet he was the greatest heavyweight champion of all time, people are all different, some guys have big mouths while others are more humble, but that has nothing to do with skill level.
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WHEN CONAN WAS COMPARING ANIMALS THAT CAN KILL OTHERS, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ANIMALS WITH EQUAL SKILL LEVEL, A LION AND A CHEETAH ARE BOTH CATS, BOTH EQUALLY GOOD HUNTERS, BUT THE LION WOULD ALWAYS WIN, CAUSE ITS BIGGER AND STRONGER, I WAS TALKING ABOUT ANIMALS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE SAME. NOT TALKING ABOUT SPIDERS OR SNAKES. A GAZZEL, ACTUALLY ARE VERY SMALL, IF YOUR TALKING ABOUT A WILDERBEAST, SURE THEY ARE BIG, BUT THEY ARE NOT HUNTERS LIKE A LION IS. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HUNTERS, (MEAT EATERS). LETS LOOK AT THE BIGGEST MEAT EATER ON LAND, THE KODIAC GRIZZLEY BEAR, NO LION OR ANY OTHER ANIMAL CAN BEAT THE BEAR.
Bench Ricer…
WOW, U GUYS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANIMALS, FIRST OFF, THE LION DOESN’T HUNT THE GAZELLE, THE ONLY ANIMAL FAST ENOUGH TO CATCH A GAZELLE IS THE CHEETAH. AND TO CORRECT ONE STATEMENT, THE ELEPHANT, HAS NO NATURAL ENEMIES, NONE. ZERO.
Bigconan, you have no character and that is the bottom line.
Hardcore men have character - it's the backbone of their lives. They're strong of mind and they dont a)whine, b)brag to everybody.
Kids on the other hand though do plenty of each. They whine about this n that, and they bragg about any and everything. Kinda like you.
You can be as big as you want. You can be the biggest strongest man alive - heck you can have the arms of Greg Valentino for all that's worth. You're still not a hardcore man. You're weak of mind, because you whine about those who arent like you, and you bragg about how much better than everybody else you are. I wil tell you the truth, if I was in a battle field, I would be scared shitless to be fighting side by side with you - you know why? Because all you have is a big mouth and big arms. If you cant keep your mouth shut and take it like a man when something as insignificant as a 160 lb guy wanting his 6 pack bothers you, than I cant imagine what strenght of mind you could possibly have when your fellow men are taking actual bullets in front of you and dropping dead...Or when they lose an arm and the screaming and moaning becomes unbearable...what would you do then, whine about it? Because in all honesty I dont see you being able to endure something like that and keep fighting and moving along as the REAL TOUGHT HARDCORE MEN do. My point is, your muscles are obviously out of proportion with your head. The toughest men are the ones with the toughest minds in strong bodies, not the ones in the strongest bodies with weak minds who feel the need to show off and run his mouth on how everybody is weaker than him. Cause see, if you ever did that on a battle field, youd be dead, much like the lion would lose its prey if it kept roaring left and right while hunting for gazelle.
Muscle is supposed to be a reflection of how strong you are, not how much better than everybody else you are. It's supposed to be a practical thing that keep you alive, that allows you to defend yourself and fight when necessary, if necessary, not something you use for no other purpose thatn to show off. You're no better than a beauty pageant contestant in my eyes, and no better than a teen girl who badmouths a hotter chick who is getting laid because sh? has fake boobs.
Snakes kill and eat rats, rabbits and so forth. Snakes are hunters. It seems your problem is not about categorizing the animals as hunters, but rather the fact that the snake has something no other animal has - poison, the ability to move without being noticed and without any noise, the ability to camouflage. It does these things because it inherited them. Like wise real hardcore men use whats available to them - they have the ability to think of something different which will allow them to defeat an enemy or turn a diffcult situation around. Of course, if one were to listen to you, you'd think all you need to be a real man is be a big guy who, although he has no endurance whatsoever, can so a couple reps with a lot of weight - and NOT have to use their heads, or have any sense of values, integrity, self-control, maturity, skill, as all you really need to do is whine and carry yourself with a lot of fake bravado to make pretend you're better than everybody else.
Actually Conan, it’s simply because the Cheetah has evolved to only bring speed to the table. A lion is much more balanced, that’s why it wins, not because it’s bigger.
Take fish for example. Cichlids of all types can kill most other fish, even if they are bigger, unless of course the other fish is so big that the smaller fish fits in it’s mouth. Other then that your theory is bunk.
Want another example?
Mongoose and cobras. Wild boar, while not bigger then people, will destroy any man.
Please stop typing in all caps, BigConan. It makes you look like a fat, dumb 'roid monkey with esteem issues… oh wait, nevermind.
Conan: Didn’t I tell you to shut the fuck up? Why are you still talking?
Oooh, BigConan… You are a real man. I’ve read so many of the things you have to say and I just can’t hold it back any longer…
Can I suck your dick? Your big, maaanly, larger-than-humanly-possible cock? Or maybe if I’m not hardcore enough for you, will you at least let me lick the sweat from your massive balls? Ohhh, god. I can almost cum from just thinking about it… I do sooo love the way you speak of yourself in the third person. And the stunningly brilliant elocution you display has me hanging on every maaanly syllable. I’ve just never run across anyone so stimulating and hardcore…