YOU are SELFISH

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Gael wrote:

A good definition is tricky. Selfishness is a general outlook where self interest takes excessive prioritization over regard for others.

I disagree with those who believe accumulation of wealth is not inherently selfish. I do think that overconsumption, especially of the more scarce resources, generally is selfish.[/quote]

You say you disagree with those who believe accumaltion of wealth is not inherently selfish, correct? As oppossed to agreeing with those who believe accumulating wealth is not inherently selfish, no?

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gael wrote:

A good definition is tricky. Selfishness is a general outlook where self interest takes excessive prioritization over regard for others.

I disagree with those who believe accumulation of wealth is not inherently selfish. I do think that overconsumption, especially of the more scarce resources, generally is selfish.

You say you disagree with those who believe accumaltion of wealth is not inherently selfish, correct? As oppossed to agreeing with those who believe accumulating wealth is not inherently selfish, no?[/quote]

Shit, I made a typo.

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[quote]Gael wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gael wrote:

A good definition is tricky. Selfishness is a general outlook where self interest takes excessive prioritization over regard for others.

I disagree with those who believe accumulation of wealth is not inherently selfish. I do think that overconsumption, especially of the more scarce resources, generally is selfish.

You say you disagree with those who believe accumaltion of wealth is not inherently selfish, correct? As oppossed to agreeing with those who believe accumulating wealth is not inherently selfish, no?

Shit, I made a typo.[/quote]

Ah. Can I get a -1 poor reading comprehension? It’d get me back down to a “satisfactory” rating.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Bah, you guys miss the point. It’s not about entitlement or giving things to people who won’t work for it.

In reality, creating a larger and larger poor class, complete with all the crime and welfare that it invokes, will cripple your nation’s economy. This shift has been happening with the recent policies.
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It has?

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov2.html

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[quote]tedro wrote:
vroom wrote:
Bah, you guys miss the point. It’s not about entitlement or giving things to people who won’t work for it.

In reality, creating a larger and larger poor class, complete with all the crime and welfare that it invokes, will cripple your nation’s economy. This shift has been happening with the recent policies.

It has?

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov2.html

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I think what is impled is the migrant influx forcing wages to lower for many jobs and microeconomies . By this, it can be said that tax evasion/fraud by companies that support and employ these migrant dependent industries have indeed supported the working class shift from Middle Class to Lower class.

I would also like to mention the outsorcing of jobs to other countries (as its world economy, you know) where lower wages are a legal aspect of American business. This also goes with lower standards of living for them, (which sweat shop labor can be used as the gold standard for legal labor) we can compare what (for example) China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, and some extent South America, will settle for when given low wages. Americans competing for such markets will also have to settle for lower wages and all the lower standards of living that comes with it.

As the American economy suffers, so do jobs and all the money that pays them. Competetion for these jobs increases as does the willingness to bend/break laws and standards that are designed to protect the workers safety, interest, and rights. Examples are Companies that squirrel money in offshore bank accounts to avoid taxes they should otherwise pay, or an electrician who demands to be paid in cash for services rendered.

While the OP (not sure what he really means) declares that You (I) are selfish, I wont admit otherwise. Keep in mind however, If you don’t do well, there is no gaurnatee I will either. Likewise, for me the same. We all need to work with and for eachother at some point, so its in eveyones best interest that we all do well, though you are likely to disagree.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Bah, you guys miss the point. It’s not about entitlement or giving things to people who won’t work for it.

In reality, creating a larger and larger poor class, complete with all the crime and welfare that it invokes, will cripple your nation’s economy. This shift has been happening with the recent policies.
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What policies would these be? It was under Bush that those paying no income tax climbed to 40%, mostly as a result of expanding the child tax credit. You would think this would ease a burden on the poor. Sure, it’s not actually GIVING money to those who pay no income tax, but hey.

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I believe all the problem comes froma lack of responsibility and accountability that is being forced into our education systems. It promotes a feeling that the everyone owes you something and if they don’t give it to you, then they are mean and selfish. It hampers a desire to better yourself, a motivation to excel because either way you get the same result.

Sorry but things don’t work that way and it shows the history of every country.

Oh and thank the more extreme liberals for that. We need both sides, just not extremist on both sides.

Obama is a blathering idiot who sounds good when he can prepare a speach ahead of time. In science we would say he knows just enough to make him dangersous.

He is the first person since Hitler who has been able to captivate the masses without saying anything, while completely hiding his votes, his past.

In the state senate he voted for bills that increased their sales tax to the highest in the country, lead to one of the highest crime rates and highest welfare rates and highest unemployment rates in America, tried to give criminals and felons more rights, and took away the peoples’ rights to protect their families and their homes. Sounds great for america, I’m excited.

No wonder he voted present 130 times in the US senate knowing he would want to run for president.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
vroom wrote:
Bah, you guys miss the point. It’s not about entitlement or giving things to people who won’t work for it.

In reality, creating a larger and larger poor class, complete with all the crime and welfare that it invokes, will cripple your nation’s economy. This shift has been happening with the recent policies.

What policies would these be? It was under Bush that those paying no income tax climbed to 40%, mostly as a result of expanding the child tax credit. You would think this would ease a burden on the poor. Sure, it’s not actually GIVING money to those who pay no income tax, but hey.
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Don’t bother with the facts with vroom. That might force him to take a position instead of being the eternal fence fucker.

Why anyone engages that self-righteous piece of shit is beyond me.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Don’t bother with the facts with vroom. That might force him to take a position instead of being the eternal fence fucker.

Why anyone engages that self-righteous piece of shit is beyond me. [/quote]

How can I be self-righteous and yet have no opinion, you moronic ass clown?

Don’t look now… but there’s an opinion in my last sentence!

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[quote]vroom wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Don’t bother with the facts with vroom. That might force him to take a position instead of being the eternal fence fucker.

Why anyone engages that self-righteous piece of shit is beyond me.

How can I be self-righteous and yet have no opinion, you moronic ass clown?

Don’t look now… but there’s an opinion in my last sentence![/quote]

I’m probably wrong, but I dont think that previous statement was aimed at you, Vroom…

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[quote]vroom wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Don’t bother with the facts with vroom. That might force him to take a position instead of being the eternal fence fucker.

Why anyone engages that self-righteous piece of shit is beyond me.

How can I be self-righteous and yet have no opinion, you moronic ass clown?

Don’t look now… but there’s an opinion in my last sentence![/quote]

So, yeah. What would these ‘policies’ be?