So ive been on 250mg TRT for quite some time. I’ve slowly been dialing in my WOs and nutrition and seeing some significant differences in body compostion but the progress has been slow. I’m curious about adding another compoumd to help increase the fat loss and body composition changes. I’ve seen a lot of conflicting information on multiple forms and websites as to the effectiveness and side effects (or lack thereof) of yk11. The one thing that seems to be consistent across the board is the dosing protocols of 5-10mg p/d. I understand it’s experimental with no humam studies, but does anyone have any anecdotal evidence based on personal experience as to effectiveness and side effects experienced as well as suggested length of weeks for running it? Any info is appreciated.
BTW, i have a coach but before i ask him to weigh in, I’d like to explore this a bit on my own as to whether or not this is a smart or a flat out dumb idea. Thanks
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You can take something for fat loss, but it won’t be another AAS. Not awesome at burning fat. But they build muscle really well. If it were me I’d just double your “TRT” dose. Bet you’d start growing again then. Not sure YK11 is going to get you where you want by itself. But of course, we’re all different and it could work well for you.
Thanks, swoops. I’m trying to supplelment with something that won’t raise my e2. 250 T requires .5mg AI eod
If you’re looking for something for fat loss I would look at retatrutide. 1mg/wk long term is great for keeping blood sugar stable and helping mobilize fat.
Sarms and steroids do not burn fat. They build muscle.
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Thanks. Im currently on tirzepatide and am cuttimg back the dosage to 2.5mg per week.
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Why are you cutting back the dosage of Tirz if you’re looking to lose more weight?
A quick look at yk11 I found:
Possible risks include:
- Liver toxicity, as suspected from its methylated structure (similar to oral anabolic steroids).
- Hormonal suppression, possibly affecting endogenous testosterone production.
- Unknown cardiovascular or prostate risks.
- No data exists on neurotoxicity or cancer risk.
If it were me I would just do 20mg of dianabol if I were looking to get the same effects with very much known side effects. Dbol impacts your e2 however.
If you’re looking at something that won’t raise you’re e2 then try anavar at 20-40mg, turinabol at around the same dosage.
If looking at an injectable, I recommend masteron at 100-200mg. It doesn’t raise e2 and will help build muscle - don’t listen to the “masteron is for sub 10% body fat” crowd -
Everyone praises Primobolan. It doesn’t raise e2 (for some it actually lowers it) but I never used it. Masteron is my go to for a dht compound.
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yeah great question. I’m not sure your choice of compounds vibes with your goal of fat loss. I’d stay on the 250mg of Test and up the GLP-1 to lose more weight and maintain (and ideally gain) some muscle.
Thanks, guys. I’m less reliant on the tirzepitide than I once was and don’t want to use it as a crutch. I will just keep plugging away… slow and steady wins the race. And when i get to where i need to be, I’ll discuss those teied and true compounds instead of the experimental ones. I’m just impatient I guess, which is my own problem to work on. I didn’t get to where I am overnight, and I won’t get to where I want to be overnignt either
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Do you find mast hard on the hair?
Thanks for all the feedback, guys. As a check-in, I stuck with 210mg test-e per week, some mitochondrial support/enhancement supps, and recently, 2.5mg reta per week. Between dialing my diet in (finally) and the reta, the weight is really sliding off. Frankly, 2.5mg reta is too much, so I’m reducimg it to 2mg per week. I don’t know if I’m a hyper responder or what, but the reta is waaaaay more effective fpr me than higher doses of tirzepatide (I was up to 8mg per week at one point with very little results).
If you’re trying to build muscle, taking Zepbound will make that VERY difficult. I assume you’re using a compounded form, as 8mg is not a standard dose offered in the pre-filled pens (2.5, 5, 7.5, 10 etc up to 15mg). But if the Zepbound/tirzepatide IS legit, then it will absolutely KILL your appetite, grind your digestive system to a halt! So, eating enough calories, getting in enough protein will be very, very difficult (I know all this from a friend who is taking Zepbound to lose fat and he also lifts). He said that he is never hungry anymore, has no food cravings, has to take Miralax daily just so he can crap, and when he is able to eat, he’s bloated and uncomfortable because the food stays in the stomach/intestines for a LONG time.
Now, all the above is GREAT if you’re an obese person and need to lose A LOT of weight, I’ve seen it work wonders with him losing 60lbs in a matter of a few months. But taking that and hoping to add muscle, well, it’s will be next to impossible. If you are morbidly overweight and need to lose a good deal of fat (don’t take Zepbound just because you need to lose 25lbs) then DO THAT FIRST. Take it if you ARE very obese and need to lose weight for health reasons like diabetes, cardiovascular disease, breathing difficulties, not dying early due to obesity related disorders.
Not being dead at 55 from obesity is WAY more important that getting jacked! So, lose the weight first (and yes, you should still workout, try to at least get in a lot of protein with shakes since eating will be difficult) & THEN worry about upping your testosterone dose and putting on muscle. To really speed up putting on muscle, you need to be eating several times a day, getting in 1G/protein per lb of bodyweight, MINIMUM, lifting hard and heavy, etc. Lose weight first, using Zepbound if you need to lose a lot (as in, if you need to lose like 60, 80, 150 lbs), then build muscle.
Have you noticed any strength gains or just cosmetic fat loss while running YK11?
