[quote]gregron wrote:
I wish I was a cop so I could beat some of you guys up and get away with it![/quote]
GTFO!
Nah, jk, but seriously, how many times do I have to say that to you?
jk.
^^hahahaha I know right? its like you got it out for me or somethin
^well I mean you force my hand so often. I have to act.
^^Youre luck I’m not a cop in Arkansas… otherwise you’d be close to catching a beat down!
(actually lucky me im not a cop in arkansas… cause id be in arkansas!!! Ohhhh burn!)
^good thing you arent a cop in Arkansas, else you would figure out the grand secret about how awesome Arkansas actually is.
plus, i would simply yell “GTFO!” and throw an asian off a building
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
Anyway, what are you proposing? Anarchy?[/quote]
You’re damn skippy![/quote]
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
^^
The Canadian comment was a joke. My apologies to you, sir, if you are Canadian. That nation did produce GSP, after all…
I do honestly feel that stepping in if you see a person getting beaten is the right thing to do. Are there risks? Certainly. You should be cognizant of that fact when you step in.
However, can any one of us state that we have never done anything dangerous (perhaps foolishly so) in our lives? Is the fact that it’s a dangerous thing to do enough to stop a person from doing what is right? I don’t know. I can’t answer that question for you.
Consider this, however. If we have fewer police (which some folks would enjoy) then who does it fall upon to help a person who is being attacked or abused? Logically, it falls on the common man. Someone has to step in to do something, or we have failed each other as a civilized society.
Years ago, citizens policed themselves. It was rare to have more than one law enforcement official for a given town. It wasn’t necessary, because the citizenry knew what was right and what was wrong, so they didn’t allow each other to step out of line. I don’t think many people would disagree when I state that society is no longer that way. But, don’t we still have a duty to protect one another? Or has that just gone out the window entirely?
Also, just to be clear to anonym…I was offering the joint manipulation as one alternative out of many. If you aren’t familiar with them, of course no one is going to expect you to perform one. It was simply an alternative. There are many ways to intercede without performing a joint manipulation. If the issue is with interceding period, then I would ask you to read what I just posted. [/quote]
lol it’s all good…it doesn’t matter where I’m from, thought you were being serious with that comment but if your not that’s good. It wouldn’t of mattered if you said Canada, Spain, Russia…just was saying it doesn’t matter where someone’s from (although it can influence greatly) it all comes down to the person.
I do believe it can be the right thing to do if someone steps in…but what if that person who is doing the beating is doing the RIGHT thing. What if a man mugged a woman, you chase that man…start to beat him down…and a citizen comes and starts to beat on you simply because they see that situation. Not good. Or what if someone is getting beaten down for owing someone money, did something to their brother or sister so said person deservers it. There’s just too many factors. I’ve seen guys come out of a car…grab a man (who i knew) and started to pummel him cause he stole something from their family. If I didn’t know that person and stepped in it would’ve been foolish. Battles need to be picked very wisely.
I also do not believe we need fewer police, I optimistic that most men who become cops because they want to do it for the better…to serve and protect as they say…the only thing I get worried/paranoid about is the fact when I see a bunch of video’s on youtube of police abusing power. So when I go into a coffee shop late at night and see a cop…how do I know what kinda day/night he has had…and he sees a guy like me and maybe wants to give me a hard time…how do I respond to something like that? Talk back? Not gonna work. Walk away? Yeah right. Rather not become a victim of being tazered or some dumb shit, unless I will get a big settlement out of it. If I feel an officer is disturbed hopefully I can press the voice record button on my phone so if something is out of line I have some back up because it is very foolish to step up to a cop, especially one that is disturbed and looking to use his authority/power against you. All you could really do is RUN if you think you can get away 
lol.
Lastly on the joint manipulation I know where you were going with that, but it’s true most people don’t have the experience to do that. Hell to get it right in a controlled environment will take most a while…to do it in a high stress situation, much harder to do. I’m sure some people don’t even know if they have a fight or flight response.
^^
Don’t misunderstand me…I understand why some people don’t like police. Hell…I don’t like SOME police. I just don’t care for the sweeping generalizations that get made about ALL of them.
If one makes sweeping generalizations about a race, or a group based on sexuality, or on the fact they’re Canadian, or whatever, then society brands you as wrong, do they not?
Yet…it’s okay for some folks to do it about police…hmmmm…interesting. A double standard that I’m sure some will try to justify.
But, I’m sure I’m not going to change anyone’s mind. And I’m sure not going to change my job cos somebody doesn’t like my chosen profession. It all works out.
Now, here’s the real question. How does LIFTICVSMAXIMVS always know when someone brings up Anarchy? He seems to always be right there…poised to strike with his logic. Amazing.
Also, DixiesFinest…I will read up on the links you sent. I’ll take your word that I was confusing Anarchy with Chaos. My bad.
Diesel, I read your last post, and I just realized that I’ve been Punk’d!
You’re really Klippy, aren’t you? I’m so embarrassed…I should have seen it sooner.
How’s Ghana Girl?
This thread is awesome
[quote]rasturai wrote:
…the only thing I get worried/paranoid about is the fact when I see a bunch of video’s on youtube of police abusing power. So when I go into a coffee shop late at night and see a cop…how do I know what kinda day/night he has had…and he sees a guy like me and maybe wants to give me a hard time…how do I respond to something like that? Talk back? Not gonna work. Walk away? Yeah right. Rather not become a victim of being tazered or some dumb shit, unless I will get a big settlement out of it. If I feel an officer is disturbed hopefully I can press the voice record button on my phone so if something is out of line I have some back up because it is very foolish to step up to a cop, especially one that is disturbed and looking to use his authority/power against you. All you could really do is RUN if you think you can get away lol…[/quote]
re video of “Police performing their duties”:
I went looking for some information concerning the Victoria, BC shitkicking that happened in March. Since then the cops had tried to get a law passed (hmm) making it illegal for the public to take video recordings of “Police officers in action” because it might endanger the officer if he feels restrained in which methods he can use to subdue dangerous criminals (like girls with cerebral palsy, drunk indians, guys who ‘seem gay’, and oh yeah people who resist a beating - due to a case of mistaken identity (see Wu, Yao Wei))
I checked this link (yes it is biased, but most of what it has listed are public record facts) to see if their request had gone any further, or if it had been slapped down like it should, but I got sidetracked by the litany of other items listed.
http://www.bccla.org/policeissue/policeissue.htm
I’m not a total anarchist, but police forces in the lower mainland of Vancouver have historically been a case of the 800 or so pigs giving the good dozen or so a bad name.
It’s just that now, with widely available recording devices, their behavior is coming to light.
I didn’t check the link but…really? They’re trying to get it so the public can’t record them?
I don’t see that one getting signed into law. That dog just ain’t gonna hunt.
How absurd.
why is this thread not in PWI??? I dont get it?
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
I didn’t check the link but…really? They’re trying to get it so the public can’t record them?
I don’t see that one getting signed into law. That dog just ain’t gonna hunt.
How absurd.[/quote]
It’s defacto law some places.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
I didn’t check the link but…really? They’re trying to get it so the public can’t record them?
I don’t see that one getting signed into law. That dog just ain’t gonna hunt.
How absurd.[/quote]
It’s defacto law some places. [/quote]
Good thing there’s no police corruption in Chicago or Boston, right??
Interesting. I know we are a one-party consent state here in TX. Even if we weren’t though, as Mad Duck pointed out, there has to be an exception for public recording.
I have seen other officers yelling at people, telling them to turn off their cameras, etc, etc. I have never seen the point, personally. Let them record. What difference does it make?
It’s kind of like when officers tell people to go back in their houses…if they aren’t actually interfering in something your doing, why tell people to go back into their houses? Makes no sense to me. You can’t force them to do it if they refuse, so why even go there?
It must be my age or something. I’m sure I made those kind of errors when I was a young officer too.
Mad Duck…how dare you suggest that police corruption takes place in the very birthplace of our great nation!!! Corruption??? In Massachusettes!!! Surely you jest…
Boston PD…yeesh! I wouldn’t work for that agency if they let me be chief…never mind as a patrol officer.
This thread has become stagnant, as has DieselAllDay’s gene pool. Good, that should get shit further off-topic here.
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
Interesting. I know we are a one-party consent state here in TX. Even if we weren’t though, as Mad Duck pointed out, there has to be an exception for public recording.
I have seen other officers yelling at people, telling them to turn off their cameras, etc, etc. I have never seen the point, personally. Let them record. What difference does it make?
It’s kind of like when officers tell people to go back in their houses…if they aren’t actually interfering in something your doing, why tell people to go back into their houses? Makes no sense to me. You can’t force them to do it if they refuse, so why even go there?
It must be my age or something. I’m sure I made those kind of errors when I was a young officer too.[/quote]
I assure you officers can make you do things when you have done nothing illegal.
Question: are the first 30 seconds of this video police brutality? Or just some fucker getting what he deserved? DieselAllDay sent it to me in a PM. He said it’s him in the video.