Yet Another Police F*ck Up. (W/Vid)

Off Topic
61

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Anywho, back to the topic on hand.

While yes I see the point deb and others are making, it is clear from the video that she is hobbling, not a threat, and was already past the officers when he shoves her down. It is clearly an abuse of state power.

Pathetic. [/quote]

so because someone is hobbling they arent a threat? If I was a criminal and planned on going for a cops gun you bet your ass I’d be TRYING to look as non threatening as possible.

Why do you think suicide bombers will strap bombs to old women or put them in baby strollers? For the exact same logic that you used in thinking a hobbling woman isnt a threat.[/quote]

I mis-worded that. I meant she was still hobbling once she had already passed.

I see your point, and kindly allow it, but still maintain my stance that it is a clear abuse of state power.

picture is simply for teh lulz
[/quote]

yeah I agree that it was kind of a dick move (not helping her up) but I’m sure there were contributing factors that lead to him not stopping to help her (like a similar situation with another officer in the past that went wrong or something)

I know there has been a lot of violence towards police up in the pacific north west lately So I dont really blame the cop for what happened. its a rough job and it sucks when you’re work causes a lot of people to want to harm/kill you. It kind of puts you on edge ya know?

I know when I was overseas it did that to me.

62

[quote]gregron wrote:
[
yeah I agree that it was kind of a dick move (not helping her up) but I’m sure there were contributing factors that lead to him not stopping to help her (like a similar situation with another officer in the past that went wrong or something)
[/quote]

Or maybe he’s just a dick? I’m going to go with that.

63

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

Interesting stratification of humanity going on there in Canada too. If you are from or in X part of a city, you are fine, but if you are in Y part of the city, well then you obviously earned abuse from the police.

[/quote]

If you’d ever been around Hastings, you’d understand. Not to say the cop was right or wrong, but that area is a virtual graveyard of used up hookers, heroin addicts, drunks, released mental patients and the occasional serial killer. It’s fucking scary as hell. Cops are not super human, this guy lost his nerve but I totally get why. I don’t think it’s wise for anyone to lay a hand on a cop in any situation, and in that hellhole, you’d really be asking for it, right or wrong.[/quote]

Yeah I get it too. It’s a bad neighborhood so the cops go around cocked and nervous all the time.
But unfortunately for the cop that’s no excuse for abusing an innocent citizen.

How was that poor little gal supposed to know what dude was thinking or feeling? Hell she might not have even noticed that they were cops. Something about this makes it extremely difficult to be sympathetic. Maybe it’s the fact that he just walked off. If he would have stopped, asked her if she was alright, apologized and explained himself then that would have been different.

64

How about the fact that the ass didn’t move out of the way of a handicapped person. He caused the situation by not being courteous and letting her by. He was to busy being a hard ass.

/sarcasm/
God know in a bad part a town you have to be the biggest bad ass.
/sarcasm/

65

About two weeks ago I was at a party, and one of the other guests was a DC cop. He had no idea I was a felon, or that I’ve been to prison or anything, so I thought it would be fun to “chat him up”. Not even ten minutes into the conversation, he was bragging about how he got to “beat the shit outta people for a living” and how, “great the stress relief is whenever you need it”.

I was a captive audience and was egging him on to the best of my ability. It was kinda fun making him look like a douchebag while he thought he was SOOO cool.

The part of the conversation that relates to this post is that, when I asked about what happens if one of them tries to say you assaulted them, his reply was, “easy - all you have to do is put down in the report that they were going for my gun - it a FREE FUCKING PASS! <<>>”

She didn’t go for his gun. He, like all other bad cops, lied to make his actions seem less malicious. Why do people stick up for these retards? I’m not talking about the “good cops” - my cousin is a good cop in Baltimore City. But when an officer gets caught on video blatantly shoving a disabled person, I find it odd that people are defending the action based on the area he was in, as if it makes it OK.

Sure, there are lots of junkies and “used up prostitutes”… Let’s all go there and shove them around cuz it’s fine, right? I mean they’re in Hastings so they MUST deserve it, right? Who’s with me? Let’s go fuck some shit up! YEEEEHAAAAA!!!

/sarcasm

66

The cop was being a prick, and should be disciplined, but I’m a little more forgiving than many people on this matter.

Cops are human, and are prone to the same judgements, mood swings, etc. that everybody else is. If you spent most of your days in that area, you would be very lucky to come out a better person.

I merely passed through there a dozen or so times over a couple of visits to Vancouver and I found my reaction changed from being horrified, to feeling pity for them, and being disgusted. Nobody knows how they would react after walking that beat for a year or two.

I know there are some bad apples there, but lets not start thinking the whole force are power tripping thugs. There is probably around 2000 officers amongst the various departments. If you have 50 bad officers running around, that is still less than 2.5%.

67

[quote]greenpig wrote:
Interpret the video as you please, but the title of your thread is insulting. Soldiers and law enforcement…they put their life on the line, for you. Those are difficult shoes to walk in.[/quote]

I have great respect for law enforcement. Like I said, my uncle was killed in an ambush before I was born. Interpret the title as you please, but it just so happens that I’ve been seeing alot of this shit lately, hence the “yet another” part.

68

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
About two weeks ago I was at a party, and one of the other guests was a DC cop. He had no idea I was a felon, or that I’ve been to prison or anything, so I thought it would be fun to “chat him up”. Not even ten minutes into the conversation, he was bragging about how he got to “beat the shit outta people for a living” and how, “great the stress relief is whenever you need it”.

I was a captive audience and was egging him on to the best of my ability. It was kinda fun making him look like a douchebag while he thought he was SOOO cool.

The part of the conversation that relates to this post is that, when I asked about what happens if one of them tries to say you assaulted them, his reply was, “easy - all you have to do is put down in the report that they were going for my gun - it a FREE FUCKING PASS! <<>>”

She didn’t go for his gun. He, like all other bad cops, lied to make his actions seem less malicious. Why do people stick up for these retards? I’m not talking about the “good cops” - my cousin is a good cop in Baltimore City. But when an officer gets caught on video blatantly shoving a disabled person, I find it odd that people are defending the action based on the area he was in, as if it makes it OK.

Sure, there are lots of junkies and “used up prostitutes”… Let’s all go there and shove them around cuz it’s fine, right? I mean they’re in Hastings so they MUST deserve it, right? Who’s with me? Let’s go fuck some shit up! YEEEEHAAAAA!!!

/sarcasm[/quote]

And while we’re at it lets all 3 of us walk shoulder to shoulder via riot dispersing and anyone that does not part for us like the red sea for Moses, fuck them up. lol. Good times.

The reason everyone sees Police abuse black on white yet still sees an officer that’s justified is well because of too many issues id care to comment on. But propaganda conditioning for the good officers, the pillars of community etc etc is strong.

69

[quote]greenpig wrote:
Interpret the video as you please, but the title of your thread is insulting. Soldiers and law enforcement…they put their life on the line, for you. Those are difficult shoes to walk in.[/quote]

The behavior of that cop is insulting. This is an example of another police fuckup. Why sugar coat it?

70

So for all you posting about how bad the cops are and so on, I need to put you mind into the area there. I’m not saying what the cop did was right, but lets put this into a better perspective.

As some posters commented, that area of Hastings is nasty. One poster said it’s as nasty as it gets and quite frankly, he’s right. To put it into perspective with our US friends, it’s the equivalent of the downtown core of Detroit MI, or Compton CA. To get your mind wrapped around this a bit better, it’s a fraction of the population of those cities, but with similar violent/drug crime rates.

To say it’s nasty, is an understatement.

I’ve personally seen drug induced people running around with syringes full of blood, fluid, etc. threatening to stab anyone that walks by. You guessed it, it’s the cops that have to deal with that mess.

Not to mention, you can sit in an office building there, look out your window and watch the fights that go on over backbacks full of “stuff”.

As the area is full of homeless and substance addicted people, most violent crimes go unreported. I had a friend that worked with the homeless women there and they shared with me a statistic (not published) about rapes. The numbers per capita were astonishing in that area.

So now we know the type of area it is… Assume for a moment you a cop, having to walk through and patrol that area as best you can, and someone reaches up at you. You have no idea what they’re doing - are they reaching up to shake your hand, are they reaching up to grab your gun (as this woman indicated), are they reaching up to stab you with a syringe full of HIV/Hep-c blood? You just don’t know and as such, you need to react and react fast.

So this disabled woman is approaching the officers. Do they know she’s disabled, or hopped up on drugs? Hard to say… She thean reached up, touches his belt so he shoves her done. At this point, I’d still think he’s within his rights as a cop (assume your walking down this area with your wallet in your pocket and someone reaches up and touches your pocket - how would you react?).

What he does next though, just staring her down and then nobody helping her up? That’s the odd and out of line part…

71

[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:
So for all you posting about how bad the cops are and so on, I need to put you mind into the area there. I’m not saying what the cop did was right, but lets put this into a better perspective.

As some posters commented, that area of Hastings is nasty. One poster said it’s as nasty as it gets and quite frankly, he’s right. To put it into perspective with our US friends, it’s the equivalent of the downtown core of Detroit MI, or Compton CA. To get your mind wrapped around this a bit better, it’s a fraction of the population of those cities, but with similar violent/drug crime rates.

To say it’s nasty, is an understatement.

I’ve personally seen drug induced people running around with syringes full of blood, fluid, etc. threatening to stab anyone that walks by. You guessed it, it’s the cops that have to deal with that mess.

Not to mention, you can sit in an office building there, look out your window and watch the fights that go on over backbacks full of “stuff”.

As the area is full of homeless and substance addicted people, most violent crimes go unreported. I had a friend that worked with the homeless women there and they shared with me a statistic (not published) about rapes. The numbers per capita were astonishing in that area.

So now we know the type of area it is… Assume for a moment you a cop, having to walk through and patrol that area as best you can, and someone reaches up at you. You have no idea what they’re doing - are they reaching up to shake your hand, are they reaching up to grab your gun (as this woman indicated), are they reaching up to stab you with a syringe full of HIV/Hep-c blood? You just don’t know and as such, you need to react and react fast.

So this disabled woman is approaching the officers. Do they know she’s disabled, or hopped up on drugs? Hard to say… She thean reached up, touches his belt so he shoves her done. At this point, I’d still think he’s within his rights as a cop (assume your walking down this area with your wallet in your pocket and someone reaches up and touches your pocket - how would you react?).

What he does next though, just staring her down and then nobody helping her up? That’s the odd and out of line part…[/quote]

Sorry the whole scene is fucked and they are ALL 100% out of line. It’s cops like that that give the good ones a bad name. See Any Good cop will stand for the truth not brotherhood. So the truth is in the pudding in this video. Any cop in my eyes that does not say clearly and unequivocally “this is wrong and i would never behave that way” is playing cover up for the brothers in his field. All about the team. lol.

72

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Anywho, back to the topic on hand.

While yes I see the point deb and others are making, it is clear from the video that she is hobbling, not a threat, and was already past the officers when he shoves her down. It is clearly an abuse of state power.

Pathetic. [/quote]

so because someone is hobbling they arent a threat? If I was a criminal and planned on going for a cops gun you bet your ass I’d be TRYING to look as non threatening as possible.

Why do you think suicide bombers will strap bombs to old women or put them in baby strollers? For the exact same logic that you used in thinking a hobbling woman isnt a threat.[/quote]

I mis-worded that. I meant she was still hobbling once she had already passed.

I see your point, and kindly allow it, but still maintain my stance that it is a clear abuse of state power.

picture is simply for teh lulz
[/quote]

yeah I agree that it was kind of a dick move (not helping her up) but I’m sure there were contributing factors that lead to him not stopping to help her (like a similar situation with another officer in the past that went wrong or something)

I know there has been a lot of violence towards police up in the pacific north west lately So I dont really blame the cop for what happened. its a rough job and it sucks when you’re work causes a lot of people to want to harm/kill you. It kind of puts you on edge ya know?

I know when I was overseas it did that to me.[/quote]

“A similar situation with another officer in the past”, I don’t know man, you cant always really use previous situations to make the BEST possible judgements in new ones. For example, a while ago, a cousin of mine in south africa, his friend was stopped by a Fake boarder patrol, and killed for his car//belongings, my cousin was stopped by a boarder patrol the next week, and because of what happeend to his friend, tryed to escape, the officer (real police officer with wife and kids) was killed, and my cousin spent a year in jail… yes only a year. But you see my point.

73

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:
So for all you posting about how bad the cops are and so on, I need to put you mind into the area there. I’m not saying what the cop did was right, but lets put this into a better perspective.

As some posters commented, that area of Hastings is nasty. One poster said it’s as nasty as it gets and quite frankly, he’s right. To put it into perspective with our US friends, it’s the equivalent of the downtown core of Detroit MI, or Compton CA. To get your mind wrapped around this a bit better, it’s a fraction of the population of those cities, but with similar violent/drug crime rates.

To say it’s nasty, is an understatement.

I’ve personally seen drug induced people running around with syringes full of blood, fluid, etc. threatening to stab anyone that walks by. You guessed it, it’s the cops that have to deal with that mess.

Not to mention, you can sit in an office building there, look out your window and watch the fights that go on over backbacks full of “stuff”.

As the area is full of homeless and substance addicted people, most violent crimes go unreported. I had a friend that worked with the homeless women there and they shared with me a statistic (not published) about rapes. The numbers per capita were astonishing in that area.

So now we know the type of area it is… Assume for a moment you a cop, having to walk through and patrol that area as best you can, and someone reaches up at you. You have no idea what they’re doing - are they reaching up to shake your hand, are they reaching up to grab your gun (as this woman indicated), are they reaching up to stab you with a syringe full of HIV/Hep-c blood? You just don’t know and as such, you need to react and react fast.

So this disabled woman is approaching the officers. Do they know she’s disabled, or hopped up on drugs? Hard to say… She thean reached up, touches his belt so he shoves her done. At this point, I’d still think he’s within his rights as a cop (assume your walking down this area with your wallet in your pocket and someone reaches up and touches your pocket - how would you react?).

What he does next though, just staring her down and then nobody helping her up? That’s the odd and out of line part…[/quote]

Sorry the whole scene is fucked and they are ALL 100% out of line. It’s cops like that that give the good ones a bad name. See Any Good cop will stand for the truth not brotherhood. So the truth is in the pudding in this video. Any cop in my eyes that does not say clearly and unequivocally “this is wrong and i would never behave that way” is playing cover up for the brothers in his field. All about the team. lol.[/quote]

This also folks it’s not like in the movies if I remember correctly an officer uses a holster that needs to be twisted in order to get it out, not just grab and pull. Another thing you will notice is the pushing is done with her back to them, she had already past them when the tough guy pushed her to the ground.

74

I for one don’t actually feel that there are cops ‘putting their lives on the line for me every day’ Thats just one of those bullshit automated defenses that come up every time someone insults a police officer that have no credibility and require no evidence for the person that spewed that line to feel they’re in the right. Were the 4 cops that beat a student to death in front of my university after they caught him running putting their lives on the line? I feel like a lot of cops are more likely to put someone elses life on the line before their own.

75

[quote]Mackk wrote:
I for one don’t actually feel that there are cops ‘putting their lives on the line for me every day’ Thats just one of those bullshit automated defenses that come up every time someone insults a police officer that have no credibility and require no evidence for the person that spewed that line to feel they’re in the right. Were the 4 cops that beat a student to death in front of my university after they caught him running putting their lives on the line? I feel like a lot of cops are more likely to put someone elses life on the line before their own.[/quote]

And the sooner everyone wakes up to this fact the better. As it is now i fear an asshole cop going through yet another divorce having a bad night when im having a bad night too and us having a run in and getting killed NOT shot. Afterwards it would be white washed and i would die in vain.

As it is now, i feel there is a greater chance of me being killed by a twitchy thug cop then a bro in the middle of downtown LA. Yes the time is slowly coming where it is the Police that will be the hostile ones because the citizenry are easy pickings, don;t fight back, are generally calm, obedient and non confrontational.

If all the special psychology tests given to candidates to become cops, get these types of cops on the street, something is seriously wrong with the system.

76

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:

This also folks it’s not like in the movies if I remember correctly an officer uses a holster that needs to be twisted in order to get it out, not just grab and pull. Another thing you will notice is the pushing is done with her back to them, she had already past them when the tough guy pushed her to the ground.
[/quote]

Yes i noticed that but apparently that detail is lost to most who watched it. Very good point in detail though.

77

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:

This also folks it’s not like in the movies if I remember correctly an officer uses a holster that needs to be twisted in order to get it out, not just grab and pull. Another thing you will notice is the pushing is done with her back to them, she had already past them when the tough guy pushed her to the ground.
[/quote]

Yes i noticed that but apparently that detail is lost to most who watched it. Very good point in detail though.
[/quote]
That’s because everyone is focused on the fact that “she reached for his gun” However it is her who made the comment not the police until AFTER it made the news. I’ve had too many incidents with police who act like this that now I just believe they are the norm and not the rogues other seem to think they are. Also since when is respect a one way street? Seems the police who demand respect are the last to give it themselves

78

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

That’s because everyone is focused on the fact that “she reached for his gun” However it is her who made the comment not the police until AFTER it made the news. I’ve had too many incidents with police who act like this that now I just believe they are the norm and not the rogues other seem to think they are. Also since when is respect a one way street? Seems the police who demand respect are the last to give it themselves
[/quote]

This is why you NEVER lay a hand on a cop, you don’t know if he is going to help you or shoot you.

79

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]Gregus wrote:

[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:

This also folks it’s not like in the movies if I remember correctly an officer uses a holster that needs to be twisted in order to get it out, not just grab and pull. Another thing you will notice is the pushing is done with her back to them, she had already past them when the tough guy pushed her to the ground.
[/quote]

Yes i noticed that but apparently that detail is lost to most who watched it. Very good point in detail though.
[/quote]
That’s because everyone is focused on the fact that “she reached for his gun” However it is her who made the comment not the police until AFTER it made the news. I’ve had too many incidents with police who act like this that now I just believe they are the norm and not the rogues other seem to think they are. Also since when is respect a one way street? Seems the police who demand respect are the last to give it themselves
[/quote]

That’s ok. For the most part Being a cop is a loser profession for outcasts that noone likes or ever liked in life. So with few real skills and no desire to do much of anything what do you do? Well, you become a civil servant aka cop. The perfect profession for a narrow minded egoist who takes orders well. lol. Im serious.

Im a cop family member. I know all the dirt. I could write a book. About 70-80% of cops should NOT be cops. And that’s from the good Cops who keep low or they’ll get buried with paperwork write-ups and eventually ousted from the blue club. So they play along because there are mortgages to pay and kids to feed. That’s the truth.

80

[quote]dianab wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

That’s because everyone is focused on the fact that “she reached for his gun” However it is her who made the comment not the police until AFTER it made the news. I’ve had too many incidents with police who act like this that now I just believe they are the norm and not the rogues other seem to think they are. Also since when is respect a one way street? Seems the police who demand respect are the last to give it themselves
[/quote]

This is why you NEVER lay a hand on a cop, you don’t know if he is going to help you or shoot you.[/quote]
Except you know the whole cerebal palsy thing and no control of their muscles but yeah since there was no puppy’s to kick the big bad cop needed someone smaller and weaker to bully to make him feel good