by reason of insanity.
Whats the opinion 'round here? Not just her guilt or innocence, but does being “insane” excuse you from such a horrific act?
Dammit…
Should have been cut and dry.
She killed her kids…
She killed her kids…
She killed her kids…
Her own kids!
How can you take the defence as to why you did it by saying that you thought you were a bad mother, that you thought your kids would have been bad kids, and so you drown them in the tub one by one?
Wouldn’t it be better to try and fucking be a better mother?
She needs to be dunked into a water trough filled with cow shit, brought to within an second of dying, then pulled back up and told “see motherfucker?!?! See how it feels?” Then do it again and again and again.
We already knew she was crazy. There should be a “we know you’re crazy but you’re still frying for this, bitch” clause.
And she can be freed if the doctors feel she has made a full recovery.
This is beyond a travesty.
She should be drowned in the same bathtub she killed her kids in and have the demons driven from her drowned, lifeless body.
Well, she is the murder and the father is the insane one:
"The children’s father said the jury had reached the right conclusion.
‘The jury looked past what happened and looked at why it happened,’ Rusty Yates told reporters outside the courthouse. ‘Prosecutors had the truth of the first day and stopped there. Yes, she was psychotic. That’s the whole truth.’
Rusty Yates divorced Andrea Yates after the children’s June 2001 deaths and recently remarried. He said they are still ‘friends’ and reminisce about the children."
This whole situation sickens me, especially being a native Houstonian. Why is being insane a copout? Why does the father buy into it? Dude, she killed your kids.
There is too much testosterone in this thread gentlemen. You had better knock it off before they come lock you up for being men with opinions.
And you guys won’t get out of it either.
A professor of mine asked one of his poker buddies, a psychologist, what he would do in this sort of situation. How would he treat this woman?
His response was that he would try to make her well-enough to realize that her life wasn’t worth living after what she’d done.
Thought that was an interesting perspective…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
We already knew she was crazy. There should be a “we know you’re crazy but you’re still frying for this, bitch” clause.[/quote]
Yeah. That about says it all.
Can you imagine how hard the older ones struggled as she did this?
[quote]nephorm wrote:
A professor of mine asked one of his poker buddies, a psychologist, what he would do in this sort of situation. How would he treat this woman?
His response was that he would try to make her well-enough to realize that her life wasn’t worth living after what she’d done.
Thought that was an interesting perspective…[/quote]
Aha! That is good. I still agree with the others on this one.
Fuck, no!
Yates is GUILTY AS HELL…of having the greatest back in Olympia history!
Only thing insane about Yates is his calves, motherfuckers!
(What were we talking about?)
I don’t mind the outcome so long as the doctors never decide that she’s no longer a threat to society.
I hope she dies a slow painful death!!!
Only in America.
Well this is what feminism has done to the good old USA. Don’t you guys get it? She is a WOMAN, She’s DEPRESSED, and that is why. If some of you insensitive man pricks dosen’t get it, it’s because of all the testosterone floating in your system making you stupid and clouding your judgement.
I also wanted to add that it can be argued very easily that anyone can commits murder is insane.
Whoever can make a clear-minded judgement on this one, congrats, you’re better than me.
The only things flashing through my mind are images of medieval-style, brutal capital punishment.
[quote]Crispyknight wrote:
by reason of insanity.
Whats the opinion 'round here? Not just her guilt or innocence, but does being “insane” excuse you from such a horrific act?[/quote]
She’s not excused. She will be in a mental institution until she is no longer deemed a threat to society. Which could well be never. People are often evaluated and [appropriately] found to remain unstable and a threat to themselves or others for their entire life.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
I also wanted to add that it can be argued very easily that anyone can commits murder is insane. [/quote]
Not the definition that our legal system gives to insanity. Insane in most states is limited to people who are entirely incapable of distinguishing right from wrong or people suffering from gross delusions. The issue in my mind is more proving these things and people faking. But I really don’t think it’s a problem. There are very few people who seek to plead Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity and even fewer are found so.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
Well this is what feminism has done to the good old USA. Don’t you guys get it? She is a WOMAN, She’s DEPRESSED, and that is why. If some of you insensitive man pricks dosen’t get it, it’s because of all the testosterone floating in your system making you stupid and clouding your judgement. [/quote]
That is also not at all what this verdict was about. That is mostly media hype.
I’m not sure how I feel about the Yates case, but I think the fact that we have an insanity standard is a good thing.