Xbox 360 or PS3

[quote]Magarhe wrote:
I would not go with either. If you have a PC then you could spend the money improving it and make it better than either, and the improvements can be ongoing. However that takes more research into how to improve the computer, and takes time etc…[/quote]

What tires me with PC games is that you often have to dick around with the configuration to get a game to work properly. Upgrade this or that driver, recalibrate the game pad, etc. I have a bunch of old favorites that get wonky if I change my video driver; so I’ve got to toggle between an old driver and a new one depending on which games I want to play.

It’s been a while since I’ve bought a PC game, but from what I’m reading about Starforce and similar copy-protection systems, the situation is not getting any better. A game should not install ring-0 drivers that check on what you’re doing at all times, it’s simply ridiculous.

With a console, you just sit in your comfy chair, pop in a disk and you’re playing in less than 30 seconds. No configuration, no rebooting, etc.

And if you’ve got friends over, it’s a lot easier to sit around the TV, each with a controller than to huddle around the PC in the home office.

Also, there are some types of games, like fighters (Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive, Tekken, etc.) who practically don’t exist in PC format. If you’re a fan of those types of games (I am) you practically have to get a console to play any good one.

Finally, there’s the “spend the money improving it” part: You’ll spend a lot more improving a PC to play the latest games than you will buying a new console every 2-3 years. The highest end video cards (Geforce 7800GTX 512MB) will put you back 600-700$ dollars and the latest systems include two of those. For that price, you can get the latest console and a dozen games.

I’m not saying that a PC is not a good gaming platform; but standalone consoles do have some advantages… and also disadvantages. Since getting my Xbox 1 last autumn, my game playing time has all been on the Xbox. I’ve played maybe 3 hours of Crimsonland on the PC and that’s it.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Magarhe wrote:
I would not go with either. If you have a PC then you could spend the money improving it and make it better than either, and the improvements can be ongoing. However that takes more research into how to improve the computer, and takes time etc…

What tires me with PC games is that you often have to dick around with the configuration to get a game to work properly. Upgrade this or that driver, recalibrate the game pad, etc. I have a bunch of old favorites that get wonky if I change my video driver; so I’ve got to toggle between an old driver and a new one depending on which games I want to play.

It’s been a while since I’ve bought a PC game, but from what I’m reading about Starforce and similar copy-protection systems, the situation is not getting any better. A game should not install ring-0 drivers that check on what you’re doing at all times, it’s simply ridiculous.

With a console, you just sit in your comfy chair, pop in a disk and you’re playing in less than 30 seconds. No configuration, no rebooting, etc.

And if you’ve got friends over, it’s a lot easier to sit around the TV, each with a controller than to huddle around the PC in the home office.

Also, there are some types of games, like fighters (Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive, Tekken, etc.) who practically don’t exist in PC format. If you’re a fan of those types of games (I am) you practically have to get a console to play any good one.

Finally, there’s the “spend the money improving it” part: You’ll spend a lot more improving a PC to play the latest games than you will buying a new console every 2-3 years. The highest end video cards (Geforce 7800GTX 512MB) will put you back 600-700$ dollars and the latest systems include two of those. For that price, you can get the latest console and a dozen games.

I’m not saying that a PC is not a good gaming platform; but standalone consoles do have some advantages… and also disadvantages. Since getting my Xbox 1 last autumn, my game playing time has all been on the Xbox. I’ve played maybe 3 hours of Crimsonland on the PC and that’s it.
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That just basically summed up why I prefer platform gaming vs. PCs.

Good example: I got a new PC, snazzy 256 MB video card, etc. etc. I bought Battlefield 2 and saw on the Web site that my card was specifically listed as compatible with the game… except whenever I ran it, my computer locked up. Now I had to spent countless hours downloading and installing drivers (and then un-installing them to reinstall them), trading e-mails back and forth with Electronic Arts, being told it was my card (even though they said on their site it was compatible), etc. etc.

Last time I checked, I was playing these games to relax and have fun… umm, where’s the fun in wasting several hours in an attempt to play the game I just bought?

[quote]Kuz wrote:
Last time I checked, I was playing these games to relax and have fun… umm, where’s the fun in wasting several hours in an attempt to play the game I just bought?[/quote]

Exactly.

Especially when “gaming time” is rather scarce. Between the job, the kids and family, house work and what not, when I get a little free time to play games, I wanna spend it playing games, not doing computer troubleshooting.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Kuz wrote:
Last time I checked, I was playing these games to relax and have fun… umm, where’s the fun in wasting several hours in an attempt to play the game I just bought?

Exactly.

Especially when “gaming time” is rather scarce. Between the job, the kids and family, house work and what not, when I get a little free time to play games, I wanna spend it playing games, not doing computer troubleshooting.
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I usualy get Saturday and Sunday as game days…and then only a couple of hours. It would be pointless to get a PC gaming system because I dopubt I would ever actually play a game.

For the record, God of War kicked ass. I just hate I beat it so quickly.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
pookie wrote:
Kuz wrote:
Last time I checked, I was playing these games to relax and have fun… umm, where’s the fun in wasting several hours in an attempt to play the game I just bought?

Exactly.

Especially when “gaming time” is rather scarce. Between the job, the kids and family, house work and what not, when I get a little free time to play games, I wanna spend it playing games, not doing computer troubleshooting.

I usualy get Saturday and Sunday as game days…and then only a couple of hours. It would be pointless to get a PC gaming system because I dopubt I would ever actually play a game.

For the record, God of War kicked ass. I just hate I beat it so quickly.[/quote]

I’m similar. I am at work from 7:30 to 6:00 or 7:00, go to the gym and by the time I get home, I am too wiped to play anything, so the weekends are essential. Hell, I have countless Saturdays of being plunked down all afternoon in my gamer chair (see above) for hours at a time playing Halo. It’s a nice break (except when I encounter cheaters, de-levelers and other sorts of nonsense).

[quote]Kuz wrote:
I’m similar. I am at work from 7:30 to 6:00 or 7:00, go to the gym and by the time I get home, I am too wiped to play anything, so the weekends are essential. Hell, I have countless Saturdays of being plunked down all afternoon in my gamer chair (see above) for hours at a time playing Halo. It’s a nice break (except when I encounter cheaters, de-levelers and other sorts of nonsense).[/quote]

Damn, you have a “real” gamer’s chair. The one above is like the one I have, only mine is black. It’s comfortable as hell and allows me to sit right in front of the tv.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (ps3). Enough said.

Its almost totally unrelated but I realized how fuckinbg awesome my job is. The owner bought each of us a copy of Battlefield 2 and the special forces expansion pack, and we shut down the computers from work related activities every wednesday at 5. It is game night with 20 of us on our blood bath internal gaming network. Since we do high end design and analysis, the comps are already jacked up.

I’m really hoping noone pinches me, because this is quite possibly the perfect job.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Damn, you have a “real” gamer’s chair. The one above is like the one I have, only mine is black. It’s comfortable as hell and allows me to sit right in front of the tv. [/quote]

Here’s mine. :slight_smile:

Extremely comfortable and you can vary positions enough that spending hours (on the rare occasions when I can) in it never gets uncomfortable.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Damn, you have a “real” gamer’s chair. The one above is like the one I have, only mine is black. It’s comfortable as hell and allows me to sit right in front of the tv.

Here’s mine. :slight_smile:

Extremely comfortable and you can vary positions enough that spending hours (on the rare occasions when I can) in it never gets uncomfortable.
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You’re cheating. You have a leg rest. That is simply too much comfort for a true gaming experience.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
pookie wrote:
Kuz wrote:
Last time I checked, I was playing these games to relax and have fun… umm, where’s the fun in wasting several hours in an attempt to play the game I just bought?

Exactly.

Especially when “gaming time” is rather scarce. Between the job, the kids and family, house work and what not, when I get a little free time to play games, I wanna spend it playing games, not doing computer troubleshooting.

I usualy get Saturday and Sunday as game days…and then only a couple of hours. It would be pointless to get a PC gaming system because I dopubt I would ever actually play a game.

For the record, God of War kicked ass. I just hate I beat it so quickly.[/quote]

ProfX if you really want a good gaming system get a Xbox and then put a modchip in it. I can watch movies, music, pictures, run Linux, play all of my games either off the disc or the hard drive, not to mention I can play all my PS1, n64, genisis, atari, snes, arcade, etc. games on it as well…

I hope this hasnt been posted yet. Its a banned 360 commercial.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
pookie wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Damn, you have a “real” gamer’s chair. The one above is like the one I have, only mine is black. It’s comfortable as hell and allows me to sit right in front of the tv.

Here’s mine. :slight_smile:

Extremely comfortable and you can vary positions enough that spending hours (on the rare occasions when I can) in it never gets uncomfortable.

You’re cheating. You have a leg rest. That is simply too much comfort for a true gaming experience.[/quote]

Seriously. I need the low back cramps to help me concentrate.

But I do like my gamer chair (the AK Rocker, available at Best Buys all over the place).

what about this pimp ass gaming chair

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/mylifecrate.jpg

[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
what about this pimp ass gaming chair

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/mylifecrate.jpg[/quote]

I like the one above myself…

I mean, I have the chair, the XBox and the Halo 2 headset, but something about the one above strikes me as being a little more special. Can’t quite put my finger on it…

[quote]Kuz wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
what about this pimp ass gaming chair

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/mylifecrate.jpg

I like the one above myself…

I mean, I have the chair, the XBox and the Halo 2 headset, but something about the one above strikes me as being a little more special. Can’t quite put my finger on it…[/quote]

Dude, if you can’t put your finger on it I’d gladly put my hands all over it.

[quote]slimjim wrote:
Kuz wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
what about this pimp ass gaming chair

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/mylifecrate.jpg

I like the one above myself…

I mean, I have the chair, the XBox and the Halo 2 headset, but something about the one above strikes me as being a little more special. Can’t quite put my finger on it…

Dude, if you can’t put your finger on it I’d gladly put my hands all over it.[/quote]

Purty, ain’t she? Ann Angel boys… yowza.

[quote]pookie wrote:

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Yeah Starforce is a bad bad bad program. It screwed my harddrive first time I encountered it. For peopel who do not know, Starforce is copy-protection that decides whether or not your computer should be stuffed around with. It deletes files and does whatever it frikkin likes. My computer is 100% legal and fine, I buy all my games. My new starforce game however decided it doesn’t like something and it screwed things up.

So PC games have problems, for sure. So for most people a system is the way to go. No point wasting time on something that doesn’t work / takes hours to setup.

But some PC games are great especially the multi-player ones.

[quote]Applesauce wrote:
The PS3 will support 1080p resolution, whereas the Xbox 360 doesn’t. There aren’t many TV’s that support that right now, but High-Def is really catching on and I expect 1080p to become more common.

As for the HDMI issue, you can buy adapters that will fit your TV’s DVI connection (most, if not all, HD TV sets have DVI inputs.) so that shouldn’t be a problem.

I never liked XBox, so I’ll wait for the PS3. But if you’re an XBox fan, it really is a fine system … Microsoft did a nice job with it and got it out much earlier than Sony.
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Im anxious to see if 1080p will be that much better. In theory it should be but we will see how it works out.

TR

[quote]trailrash wrote:
Applesauce wrote:
The PS3 will support 1080p resolution, whereas the Xbox 360 doesn’t. There aren’t many TV’s that support that right now, but High-Def is really catching on and I expect 1080p to become more common.

As for the HDMI issue, you can buy adapters that will fit your TV’s DVI connection (most, if not all, HD TV sets have DVI inputs.) so that shouldn’t be a problem.

I never liked XBox, so I’ll wait for the PS3. But if you’re an XBox fan, it really is a fine system … Microsoft did a nice job with it and got it out much earlier than Sony.

Im anxious to see if 1080p will be that much better. In theory it should be but we will see how it works out.

TR

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Do enough people even have televisions capable of supporting that resolution?
I’m waiting to see how this new “media war” is going to play out…HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray. The PS3 is supposed to have the latter but I don’t see how they can do that without losing obscene amounts of money on the hardware end…and I don’t think the regular DVD format is done yet either. I might consider picking one up but I usually wait for the mod scene to pick up before I do…

And if these guys keep messing around with all this hi-def and 70" tv sets and stuff they’re gonna fuck around and make the movie theatres obselete (not that they aren’t already…)