Xbox 360 or PS3

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It’s quite simple actually:

If you’re a HALO fan,buy a x box 360(HALO 3 is coming out soon).

If you’re a killzone fan,buy a playstation 3(Killzone 2 is coming out too).

I’ll have both because I’m a huge game geek.Playstation probably won’t be out until summer or fall.SO if you don’t like waiting go with x box 360.

I think x box has better games,and it’s better to play live.Thats my experience because I have a PS 2,game cube,and an x box and out of all three I’d say x box is the best.So go with the 360 and be happy X!

For the HALO fans:Halo the move is gonna start shooting in may of this year,so it should be out next year.So far,the bungie team and the director of the “Lord of the Rings” is involved with the movies production and directing.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
From what I’ve read before, there are some people on this forum who know way more about computer gaming systems than I probably even want to know. If I was to describe myself, I would say I am a very casual gamer who might buy a new game if the graphics look cool enough but who really only plays on the weekends when I have free time. Regardless of this, the two new systems about to take over the market have me wondering which is worth putting the money down for.

Up to this point, I have had Playstation games. I got back into video games when Tomb Raider came out and only really fell into it when GTA San Andreas hit the shelves.

The new Xbox is coming in priced around 600 bucks for a system and two games. Does this do anything else other than play games? I am expecting random blow jobs and cleaning my apartment for this much. Is this worth the cash, should I wait for the PS3, or am I wasting my time even considering buying either of the systems?[/quote]

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The PS3 will support 1080p resolution, whereas the Xbox 360 doesn’t. There aren’t many TV’s that support that right now, but High-Def is really catching on and I expect 1080p to become more common.

As for the HDMI issue, you can buy adapters that will fit your TV’s DVI connection (most, if not all, HD TV sets have DVI inputs.) so that shouldn’t be a problem.

I never liked XBox, so I’ll wait for the PS3. But if you’re an XBox fan, it really is a fine system … Microsoft did a nice job with it and got it out much earlier than Sony.

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Elder scrolls IV should be enough of a reason to buy an xbox 360, the stores should be getting them back in in a few days now and I for one will be buying a 360 and Elder schrolls, then I will retreat to my room for about 6 months straight while I pretend I am a high elf archer/thief who also has the ability to hurl fireballs out of my arse.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Elder scrolls IV should be enough of a reason to buy an xbox 360, the stores should be getting them back in in a few days now and I for one will be buying a 360 and Elder schrolls, then I will retreat to my room for about 6 months straight while I pretend I am a high elf archer/thief who also has the ability to hurl fireballs out of my arse.

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I’d tried playing Morrowind on the original Xbox but never got into it for some reason, probably because the game is HUGE. Didn’t someone die while playing morrowind?

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Elder scrolls IV should be enough of a reason to buy an xbox 360, the stores should be getting them back in in a few days now and I for one will be buying a 360 and Elder schrolls, then I will retreat to my room for about 6 months straight while I pretend I am a high elf archer/thief who also has the ability to hurl fireballs out of my arse.

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I just picked up Oblivion the other day. If your into RPG’s this game freakin’ ROCKS! I liked Morrowind, but frankly, Oblivion smokes it in all ways. And yeah, if I never buy another 360 game, it was worth the purchase for this one, LOL.

Actually, I’m REALLY looking forward to Gears of War. Looks like it’s going to possibly be a Halo contender. Made by Cliff Blezinski of Unreal fame.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Elder scrolls IV should be enough of a reason to buy an xbox 360
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I just installed the game, it really is good looking. (for PC).

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I was having fun just checking out the forums over at gamespot. You have to be a little creative to enjoy a game like this and you also have to have the ability to go off on your own a bit and not have your hand held. I was specifically cracking up over the way they were talking about the “ragdoll” physics. Supposedly, you can move almost anything in the game including dead bodies and throwing them down hills is apparently good for at least a few hours of dumb fun.

V

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[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
3. some people cant afford the whole premium package thing, so leaving options out for the people to decide on is smarter, instead of forcing everyone to buy a 500$ video game system

  1. why put an expensive ass hd-dvd player in, when alot of people are buying video game consoles, to play video games not watch movies on a platform thats not even out yet.
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Having only one version of a console makes it easy for developers. Its part of what makes a “console” a console. So now everyone with a xbox360 doesn’t have the same xbox 360. Sony learned from xbox, decided to include harddisk with every console in ps3. Why did 360 do a 180.

Microsoft could have priced a 360 with hard disk for $350 in USA like they did in japan. But they screwed USA and left you with this choice: Buy $300 incomplete console and spend $40 in a memory card with only 64mb storage space. Or buy $400 with 20gb, headset,hd cable, wireless controller. Does not look like much of a choice…

Xbox360 had a horrible launch by not stocking up and meeting with demands. They could have sold a lot more consoles if they were available.

4.Can you see a pattern here:
nintendo64(cartridge) vs ps1 (cd-format)
ps1=win
dreamcast(modified cd-rom)vs ps2(dvd)
ps2=win
xbox360 (dvd) vs ps3 (blueray)
???=win

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I work in the video game industry (specifically the hardware side of things) so I had to chime in on this. I’m a very casual gamer, mostly into sports titles when I get the chance to play, and I only own an original XBOX. All of the 3rd Gen. systems are/going to be cool. I’m a little underwhelmed by the 360 as a straight-up gaming system, but a lot of my co-workers are addicted to the online play if that is your thing.

I think the 360 is not a big enough step ahead of the original XBOX to justify the price, but will be a good value in a few years. PS3 will be a big step ahead of PS2 from the looks of it, but it is going to debut at a very high price, and I think Sony quality control for their hardware is crap. I’m excited about the Revolution because I think it will be the most fun, even if not as powerful as the other two.

A quick word on the 360 - the suckers run hot! This is not a system you can run for hour after hour and expect to last for a long time. They look cool, but the design is terrible from a ‘built-to-last’ engineering point of view.

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For those of you here who have an Xbox Live account, is it worth it?

I don’t have any friends who have an Xbox, so will I end up playing against a bunch of foul-mouthed 14 years old most of the time?

How do most multiplayer games go? Is there some skill matching attempts? If I know someone, somewhere and want to play specifically with him, is there a way to do so?

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I’m really completely up in the air about which one I’m going to buy. I’d like to see if the XBOX 360 comes down in price when the PS3 is released.

Did PS2 prices drop when XBOX came out?

I’m very intrigued by the Blu-Ray dvd feature of Sony, and in general I’m a big fan of Sony electronics, but I’m just not sure if I’m willing to pay as much as PS3 sounds like it’s going to be, considering I basically just want to play games on it.

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[quote]marcusxavier wrote:
Having only one version of a console makes it easy for developers. Its part of what makes a “console” a console. So now everyone with a xbox360 doesn’t have the same xbox 360. Sony learned from xbox, decided to include harddisk with every console in ps3. Why did 360 do a 180.[/quote]

I think the move was only motivated by the need to claim that the 360 sold for under 400$… From what I understand, developers can assume that every 360 has a hard disk and release games that won’t work without one. The presumption being that people with the base 360 will either avoid those games (they have a “Hard Disk Required” tag on the box) or eventually buy the disk.

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[quote]Jake_G wrote:
I work in the video game industry (specifically the hardware side of things)[/quote]

You wouldn’t have any inside info about this rumor: http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-6052255.html would you? A 100$ developer kit for one of these babies would rock!

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[quote]pookie wrote:
For those of you here who have an Xbox Live account, is it worth it?

How do most multiplayer games go? Is there some skill matching attempts? If I know someone, somewhere and want to play specifically with him, is there a way to do so?

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I haven’t played Xbox Live in a while (no money for new games), but I’ve been following the developments…

IMO, Xbox Live is the best part of the system. The skill matching is very user friendly and customizable, and if you want, you usually can just jump into the game, and it will automatically find people who are @ your skill level.

As for finding a friend, yea, thats really easy too. They’ve got it to the point where you can be playing any game and it will tell you when your friend comes online (even if you aren’t playing an Xbox Live game). When it tells you this, you can (somehow) quit, switch disks, and jump into the same game with him.

They are or have (I think) going to integrate it somewhat with MSN Messenger so that it will tell you if they are on Xbox Live through that.

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[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
3. some people cant afford the whole premium package thing, so leaving options out for the people to decide on is smarter, instead of forcing everyone to buy a 500$ video game system
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I belive that now, most people think that 2 different Xboxes was a bad idea. Because game developers can’t rely on the hard drive, it limits what they can do with the games.
Games that require a hard drive might, very slowly, become the norm.

[quote]marcusxavier wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
4. why put an expensive ass hd-dvd player in, when alot of people are buying video game consoles, to play video games not watch movies on a platform thats not even out yet.

Having only one version of a console makes it easy for developers. Its part of what makes a “console” a console. So now everyone with a xbox360 doesn’t have the same xbox 360. Sony learned from xbox, decided to include harddisk with every console in ps3. Why did 360 do a 180.

Microsoft could have priced a 360 with hard disk for $350 in USA like they did in japan. But they screwed USA and left you with this choice: Buy $300 incomplete console and spend $40 in a memory card with only 64mb storage space. Or buy $400 with 20gb, headset,hd cable, wireless controller. Does not look like much of a choice…

Xbox360 had a horrible launch by not stocking up and meeting with demands. They could have sold a lot more consoles if they were available.

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Japan is cheaper because they want to sell lots in that market (they aren’t).

I belive the problem now with the 360 at launch was that IBM couldn’t make enough of the processor (technical problems) they also underestimated the demand for the good xbox 360, and thougt more people would want the core (at launch; after the early adoptors the amount who want the Core system will increase). They have enough for everyone now.

BUT, the PS3 might very well have the same problems at launch (remember the PS 2?)

Also, Xbox 360 has cool media features…
[from the xbox website]

Q. What can I do with a Windows Media Center PC and Xbox 360? How does that work?

A. Every Xbox 360 also works as a Media Center Extender?which means you’ll be able to access recorded TV (including high-definition shows) and digital movies (including high-definition films), music, video, and photos stored on Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005-based PCs through any Xbox 360. What’s more, you can stay connected to Xbox Live and still receive game invites and messages from your friends while watching your favorite TV shows or movies.

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[quote]Nomancer wrote:
pookie wrote:
For those of you here who have an Xbox Live account, is it worth it?

How do most multiplayer games go? Is there some skill matching attempts? If I know someone, somewhere and want to play specifically with him, is there a way to do so?

I haven’t played Xbox Live in a while (no money for new games), but I’ve been following the developments…

IMO, Xbox Live is the best part of the system. The skill matching is very user friendly and customizable, and if you want, you usually can just jump into the game, and it will automatically find people who are @ your skill level.

As for finding a friend, yea, thats really easy too. They’ve got it to the point where you can be playing any game and it will tell you when your friend comes online (even if you aren’t playing an Xbox Live game). When it tells you this, you can (somehow) quit, switch disks, and jump into the same game with him.

They are or have (I think) going to integrate it somewhat with MSN Messenger so that it will tell you if they are on Xbox Live through that.[/quote]

Pookie,

I think Live is really what does a great job of setting the XBox apart, for me. Now, I will confess that there are times I get a little frustrated playing Halo 2 with a lot of the snot-nosed punks who are annoying as crap, but if you can find a good group of people to play with, it’s fun.

Getting new friends on-line is actually not that hard. Halo is set up well because you can look at a list of people who you just played a game with and send them friend requests (if you enjoyed playing with them). Also, you can get into a clan to have a bigger group to play with on a consistent basis.

I keep harping on Halo (which is the game I play most on-line) because it is set up better than most games to take advantage of XBox Live (doesn’t hurt that the game’s developer, Bungie, is owned by Microsoft). They do a nice job of rankings and such on there, but the most annoying thing of late are the sally’s who got to a higher level and then are purposefully losing games, betraying teammates, etc. to drop their ranking so they can basically own a bunch of noobs. Sad, isn’t it?

Also, the MSN Messenger feature has been enabled, so you can check on there to see if your friends are on-line.

Overall, it’s really worth it and it looks like for XBox 360, they are only expanding the capabilities of XBox Live (more downloadable content, full games you can play on Live and not buy in stores, etc.).

And if anyone is looking to play some Halo 2, I am UConnKuz. Be sure to leave me a voice message with the friend request to let me know you are from T-Nation and I will add ya in.

Kuz

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[quote]marcusxavier wrote:

4.Can you see a pattern here:
nintendo64(cartridge) vs ps1 (cd-format)
ps1=win
dreamcast(modified cd-rom)vs ps2(dvd)
ps2=win
xbox360 (dvd) vs ps3 (blueray)
???=win
[/quote]

dude the dreamcast only died because of piracy, other than that it didnt die because of a certain media format.

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[quote]Jake_G wrote:

This is not a system you can run for hour after hour and expect to last for a long time. They look cool, but the design is terrible from a ‘built-to-last’ engineering point of view. [/quote]

yes it is, i’ve had mine since launch day, and i’ve never had a problem, just because .02% of the population had a problem doesnt mean they all do.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Elder scrolls IV should be enough of a reason to buy an xbox 360, the stores should be getting them back in in a few days now and I for one will be buying a 360 and Elder schrolls, then I will retreat to my room for about 6 months straight while I pretend I am a high elf archer/thief who also has the ability to hurl fireballs out of my arse.

V[/quote]

It is for me! I’m gonna wait for the price to drop and then I will geek-out on the new Morrowwind.

I just bought the original XBOX and I have yet to finnish Elder Scrolls.

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I would not go with either. If you have a PC then you could spend the money improving it and make it better than either, and the improvements can be ongoing. However that takes more research into how to improve the computer, and takes time etc…

I am not impressed with the XBox 360 from what I have heard, specifically for a game called Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. It is a new game and was developed for the Xbox360 and the PC. Apparently the Xbox360 has slower loading times etc… and is generally, not as good as the PC version. Now, if that is the case when the Xbox 360 was just released, what is it going to be like in one years’ time when the PC has moved on and the Xbox360 is the same last-years machine?

Also I heard that some Xbox360’s are running it better than others - what the heck? how? they are identical units. This suggests to me the systems are probably fragmented on the harddrives etc… and all of this should be transparent and non-existant problems.

You can read about Xbox360 games etc… here. They will usually compare to the PC.

There are other advantages of an Xbox360 or PS3 though, say as media centres for playing dvds etc…

The Sony PS3 is taking new roads such as using a wireless harddrive, which means you can keep buying more harddrives and sit them anywhere in the house and they connect wirelessly. You could for example put lots of movies / songs on the harddrive, connect to it with your PS3 in the loungeroom to play them, connect to the harddrive from your PC as well. But I don’t know if you want to do that.

The PS3 will be able to play your old games too (I have heard - might need modification though).

Personally I think a PC is the way to go. The Xbox360 is just a PC in a shiny box that will quickly get out of date (if it isn’t already). The PS3 is promising in other areas but a year away now.

Having said that you cannot get God of War on the PC and from what I’ve read about it (on T-Nation) it might be worthwhile me buying a PS to play it.

Note also that the PC is a better system for playing any kind of shooting game, or strategy game, using the mouse as a controller. And I think, easier to setup playing against other humans online, which is really rewarding, and difficult, because people are unpredictable and sneaky.

So consider upgrading the PC (unless you have a macintosh of course) because it can play great games, play against people more easily, and run media etc… just as well / better.