can’t believe there are riots going on over Paterno’s firing.
If you’re going to support Paterno, you might as well go all in and support Sandusky also. Both are monsters.
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
As soon as this shit came to light, you had 1,000 dipshits outside his office chanting “Joe Pa-ter-no!” Most of them were 18-19 years old, and couldn’t possibly have much of a connection to the man. Just a bunch of (possibly) drunk freshmen looking for a reason to go chant. Conversely, 3 fucking people protested the university paying the legal fees of the 2 men on trial. What a fucking joke.[/quote]
The reporter on scene at PSU for ESPN just said he has had a decent amount of students come up to him and say “not all of us think like this(amidst a crowd of people cheering one more game), some of us think this is ridiculous, and agree with the board’s decision.”
When he asked if they would do an on camera interview they said no, “we don’t want to get beat.” I find it pretty believable that there is a lack of people publicly siding against JoePa because there is a mob of angry drunk college students that are fanatically supportive of him.[/quote]
Oh yea, I understand that. But I was actually referring to what was happening before his firing was made public. This has nothing to do with right and wrong; rather, it has everything to do with a bunch of young idiots looking for a reason to join in a mob. The videos say it all. They’re all prancing around, happy as can be and mugging for the camera. They have no real thoughts on the matter.
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Paterno should have resigned and admitted guilt. He’s a piece of shit, forcing psu to fire him[/quote]
I don’t believe for a second that they asked him to resign and he refused. I’m sure him and the board had a chat behind closed doors and decided that “firing” would be do more for the university’s image than him resigning.
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what?
Paterno announced earlier today that he was going to retire at the end of the season. He planned/wanted to finish out the season.
Penn State got so much heat from the media about it that they had to fire Paterno… Paterno should have announced that he was resigning this morning instead of saying he would retire at the end of the season.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
can’t believe there are riots going on over Paterno’s firing.
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people are idiots… Especially young college kids lol
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Paterno should have resigned and admitted guilt. He’s a piece of shit, forcing psu to fire him[/quote]
I don’t believe for a second that they asked him to resign and he refused. I’m sure him and the board had a chat behind closed doors and decided that “firing” would be do more for the university’s image than him resigning.
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what?
Paterno announced earlier today that he was going to retire at the end of the season. He planned/wanted to finish out the season.
Penn State got so much heat from the media about it that they had to fire Paterno… Paterno should have announced that he was resigning this morning instead of saying he would retire at the end of the season.[/quote]
You really can’t be that naive? Do you really think a man this cold and calculating to turn a blind eye to such heinous acts could be such an utter simpleton?
Paterno announced earlier today that he wanted to stay on so and be coach so when the board “fired” him later that day, it would carry more weight in the eyes of the public. He announced he wanted to stay on this morning knowing full well he’d be fired that afternoon.
Since he was “fired”, it comes across as if Paterno was truly being punished. If he resigned and scurried off to some tropical retirement home, there would be a public outcry for more to be done.
[quote]challer1 wrote:
Since he was “fired”, it comes across as if Paterno was truly being punished. If he resigned and scurried off to some tropical retirement home, there would be a public outcry for more to be done.[/quote]
I don’t believe that last part at all. For him to resign midseason after being so stiff in his position of ‘I’ll retire on my terms’ would be a HUGE concession. That they had to fire him doesn’t make it any more a ‘punishment’ it only reinforces how important it was to him to stay the course, even if it meant negative reaction to the school itself.
I basically don’t believe any of your post for a second because of my thoughts of the above, that’s some wild conspiracy theory shit. If you want to dig for conspiracy in this issue it’s in the coverup of Sandusky, not in JoePa’s firing.
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Paterno should have resigned and admitted guilt. He’s a piece of shit, forcing psu to fire him[/quote]
I don’t believe for a second that they asked him to resign and he refused. I’m sure him and the board had a chat behind closed doors and decided that “firing” would be do more for the university’s image than him resigning.
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what?
Paterno announced earlier today that he was going to retire at the end of the season. He planned/wanted to finish out the season.
Penn State got so much heat from the media about it that they had to fire Paterno… Paterno should have announced that he was resigning this morning instead of saying he would retire at the end of the season.[/quote]
You really can’t be that naive? Do you really think a man this cold and calculating to turn a blind eye to such heinous acts could be such an utter simpleton?
Paterno announced earlier today that he wanted to stay on so and be coach so when the board “fired” him later that day, it would carry more weight in the eyes of the public. He announced he wanted to stay on this morning knowing full well he’d be fired that afternoon.
Since he was “fired”, it comes across as if Paterno was truly being punished. If he resigned and scurried off to some tropical retirement home, there would be a public outcry for more to be done.[/quote]
Penn State Alumni?
I’m sure you guys have discussed this already, but I’m always amazed, in this kind of situations, how it takes so long to be discovered. So many witnesses, no one doing anything. It’s a shame.
If you are afraid of consequences, at least drop an anonymous note to the police or something like that. We’re talking about sodomizing a 10 years old, for God’s sake.
In Spain it was found out, just last year, that a very famous martial arts academy had been turning kids into sex slaves for like 20-30 years. They would go to these “Summer camps”…and I’ll skip the details. Yet no one ever said anything. The kids were afraid, I can understand it, but come on, there had to be someone with a heart.
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]challer1 wrote:
Since he was “fired”, it comes across as if Paterno was truly being punished. If he resigned and scurried off to some tropical retirement home, there would be a public outcry for more to be done.[/quote]
I don’t believe that last part at all. For him to resign midseason after being so stiff in his position of ‘I’ll retire on my terms’ would be a HUGE concession. That they had to fire him doesn’t make it any more a ‘punishment’ it only reinforces how important it was to him to stay the course, even if it meant negative reaction to the school itself.
I basically don’t believe any of your post for a second because of my thoughts of the above, that’s some wild conspiracy theory shit. If you want to dig for conspiracy in this issue it’s in the coverup of Sandusky, not in JoePa’s firing.[/quote]
You can believe what you want. What I do know is that right now is that the public is thirsty for blood. Someone in a position of power (not just Sandusky) is going to have to pay for this.
If Joe simply resigned and vanished, do you think the public would be satisfied with that outcome? I don’t.
It’s hardly a wild conspiracy theory as this practice has been in use since the beginning of civilization. The more revered or powerful the person who takes the fall, the more believable it becomes and the more it satiates the public’s need for vengeance.
No doubt firing the most legendary figure in Penn State’s history will help stop the proverbial bleeding, especially after that same figure put on such a show about how he was going to play the season out.
Barring extreme dementia, there is no way Joe Paterno realistically thought he was going coach the rest of the football season after a dozen kids got molested under his watch and he did nothing about it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
If Paterno had directly heard from one of his assistant coaches that another assistant coach had been seen brutally raping a 19 year old college coed in the shower…would he have merely reported it to the Athletic Director? And then when nothing happened thought to himself, Oh well, I did my duty…got to prepare for the Ohio State game now…
What if the hypothetical woman had been murdered in the shower? Would he have just done his duty then too and relayed the info to Tim Curley and went back to recruiting high school seniors?
I think not.
So why stick his fucking worthless head in the sand about a young boy getting ass raped?
The more I think this thing through the angrier I get.[/quote]
I totally agree, but the real monster is this Sandusky guy, let’s not forget that.
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
They say that most sexual abusive.on kids come from other kids acting out, repeating the abuse on other kids to try to make sense of it. The full spread of the damage this man caused will never really be known.[/quote]
It’s a defense mechanism. If when you are growing up you get raped/beaten up violently/etc. you start to find it normal and you start to like it since you haven’t know anything else.
And since it’s a “normal” thing to do, you do it to others.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I totally agree, but the real monster is this Sandusky guy, let’s not forget that.
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That’s a foregone conclusion. A done deal. I’m the guy that put the crosshairs on the despicable POS, remember?
But when others cover it up they facilitate it happening again. And again and again.[/quote]
Yep, they do. “If this reaches the press, our reputation will suffer!”. I guess that’s why they do it.
Seeing an old man raping a 10 years old kid must be something very shocking to witness. I can’t imagine how that guy just “forgot” about it…or he’s having nightmares until today.
i dont care, but im gonna say it…
there were people picketing and rallying calling for mike vicks head on a platter because he participated in the murdering of dogs, while joe paterno ignores the molestation and rape of young children at the hands of one of his top assistant coaches and people create mobs and riot in his defense…!?
he has no excuse, he shouldve been fired and i think penn state handled it the best that they could given everything that was involved, but theyre all covering their own ass and anyone from the president down is at fault.
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
there were people picketing and rallying calling for mike vicks head on a platter because he participated in the murdering of dogs, while joe paterno ignores the molestation and rape of young children at the hands of one of his top assistant coaches and people create mobs and riot in his defense…!?
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Totally different (kind of) people. I don’t like this line of thought.
“If it rains, people complain! If it’s sunny, people complain! People are crazy and don’t know what they want!”.
The only person I have not seen mentioned as being fired or any sort of punishment is the G.A. who actually SAW the rape and did NOTHING but call his daddy. If he shows up for the game this weekend, he needs to be beat to the ground.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
The only person I have not seen mentioned as being fired or any sort of punishment is the G.A. who actually SAW the rape and did NOTHING but call his daddy. If he shows up for the game this weekend, he needs to be beat to the ground.[/quote]
Yep!
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]challer1 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Paterno should have resigned and admitted guilt. He’s a piece of shit, forcing psu to fire him[/quote]
I don’t believe for a second that they asked him to resign and he refused. I’m sure him and the board had a chat behind closed doors and decided that “firing” would be do more for the university’s image than him resigning.
[/quote]
what?
Paterno announced earlier today that he was going to retire at the end of the season. He planned/wanted to finish out the season.
Penn State got so much heat from the media about it that they had to fire Paterno… Paterno should have announced that he was resigning this morning instead of saying he would retire at the end of the season.[/quote]
You really can’t be that naive? Do you really think a man this cold and calculating to turn a blind eye to such heinous acts could be such an utter simpleton?
Paterno announced earlier today that he wanted to stay on so and be coach so when the board “fired” him later that day, it would carry more weight in the eyes of the public. He announced he wanted to stay on this morning knowing full well he’d be fired that afternoon.
Since he was “fired”, it comes across as if Paterno was truly being punished. If he resigned and scurried off to some tropical retirement home, there would be a public outcry for more to be done.[/quote]
Penn State Alumni?[/quote]
Bullshit. Penn State asked him to step down in 2004 and he refused. He did not go out voluntarily.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
The only person I have not seen mentioned as being fired or any sort of punishment is the G.A. who actually SAW the rape and did NOTHING but call his daddy. If he shows up for the game this weekend, he needs to be beat to the ground.[/quote]
HE IS OUR FUCKING WIDE RECEIVERS COACH AND HAS NOT BEEN FIRED. How hypocritical can we be? The Paterno firing is a PURE PUBLIC RELATIONS move and the board of trustees does not give a RATS ASS about what happened. They just want media off their campus.
Paterno and Spanier - two big names who knew of the incident and didn’t go to police - fired.
Curley - knew exactly as much as those two, not fired
McQueary - SAW the incident, not fired.
If you’re going to clean house, clean fucking house. What PSU did is disgraceful.