Would You Marry A Porn Star?

[quote]Chewman wrote:
You took it the wrong way. I didn’t mean to imply she would do all the stuff that she does on the screen just that someone that has that much sex has to be really good at it.

I have to disagree with that as well. Just because she’s had “Alot of Sex” doenst mean she’s gonna be good at it. A Porn Queen is an actress, and in this acts in a specific manner that sells movies.

May she have learned a few tricks… Sure. But being good in bed, and being a Porn Queen are not the same thing.

You also have to look at this issue:

If she’s been fucking all day as her job, or used to. Then are you sure she’s gonna be/stay interested unless you are a BEDROOM GOD. (Sorry there can only be one bedroom god and it’s me! LOL)

I doubt she’s gonna writh around like some snake in heat at the thought of your andaconda. She’s had PLENTY of andacondas so you’d better be sure there is someting special about yours.

Anything you do ALOT, eventually becomes common place and to an extent a little boring. Ever ride a rollercoaster over and over again until it’s no fun anymore? Jump a motorcycle and end up wanting to go higher and longer? Master class 2 rapids and look forward to eventually handling class 5? Remember when finally getting ski the blue runs without falling was fun? What if you could only bench 135 the rest of your life for 5 sets of 10?

Think “Been there Done that with a bigger dick in each hole”, Or,thinking to herself: “When the hell is he gonna do something that excites me, maybe I should go back into porn at least there I was bored and made money! “Oh baby! oh baby! yeah!” (as she checks her nails as she wishes you’d hurry up and get done)”

Remember when the thought of a kiss from your girl gave you a hard-on?

Remember how it felt the first time a girl rubbed your cock through your pants and you were happy it went THAT FAR!

Remember the feeling of the first breasts you felt fully unclothed or the first time you saw your girlfriends pussy?

Do these things still give you that same reaction?

Now think she done it all. Not with one guy but with hundreds. Not with hundreds at her appartment alone but on camera in front of 50 to 100 others on set. Not just with hundreds but with hundreds of other PORN stars trying their best to make this the hottest looking and sounding sex act ever filmed.

Still think you can keep up?

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I think u just gave me an Anit-Boner.

I can’t really see the problem!!!

If she’s a great girl in every way and you like her a lot. Does it matter what she did for a living in the past?

MAN, you guys have posted some great stuff that I’ve been really thinking about…!

I’ll be posting some more thoughts this weekend…

Mufasa

Entertaining reading. Glad to see a few of you know the difference between women in porn and the one in real life. Sex is in our heads. Any woman can moan, squeal, and wiggle all you want after a liberal application of KY, thinking the entire time about what color she wants to paint her toenails. The real moaning and squealing with said Kegel benefits are entirely different and the route to them does not remotely resemble that of a porn. You know the route to the real one and she will never get bored.

That said. I went to college with a gal paying her way stripping and subsequently slowly sliding the slippery slope this direction. I’ve since lost touch, but her biggest fear was what would happen once she reached her goal. Who would find out? What would they think? Not a skeleton one would enjoy carrying around forever, it was always on her mind, robbing her of joy and the feeling of success.

I have pretty strong feelings about porn. Not because I’m a Christian or feminist, more because I see the logic of if you feed the machine it gets stronger. You don’t want your little girl paying her way doing it, but it’s okay for someone else’s runaway to do it and you’ll gladly pay feeding the sick machine. Just because it “feels” good and everyone else does it doesn’t make it right.

Analogy- Everyone I know eats Krispy Kreme’s, using the typical rational of looking at porn would mean, eating doughnuts is okay for me. But I know I don’t want to be like them, so I apply restraint, exercise self-discipline, and take the high road, making me a stronger person with self-esteem oozing out of every pore because I conquered my genetic predisposition for eating all the carbs and fat I can get my hands on.

Long and short if you are still reading this- You don’t want your little girl doing porn, don’t continue to make it possible for desparate little girl’s to make easy money this way.

To answer the question- No, from my limited exposure, the dudes that do porn share a common personality trait I could not live with.

I would like for you guys to again think CAREFULLY about two issues that I think would be important to explore a little furthur (that we’ve alluded to here and there…)

  1. BB brings up an issue that needs a little more discussion…could a young women even be in this buisness without some “issues”? (Keeping in mind that a LOT of people in life have “issues” who are NOT in porn…)

  2. Just to reiterate…

Is the person who buys, downloads, saves, sells, wacks-off to and is almost “addicted” to porn a “better” person than the performer? Is her openess about her past worse than the hypocrisy that many people exhibit when they talk about what she did?

Judging others can REALLY get us onto a slippery slope…

Post away! (Gotta’ get to work!)

Mufasa

911 Girl…

Thanks for a woman’s perspective…we could use more!

I AM curious about your perspective on the personality of the average male performer, though…

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
I would like for you guys to again think CAREFULLY about two issues that I think would be important to explore a little furthur (that we’ve alluded to here and there…)

  1. BB brings up an issue that needs a little more discussion…could a young women even be in this buisness without some “issues”? (Keeping in mind that a LOT of people in life have “issues” who are NOT in porn…)[/quote]

Yes, in my experience, she is more prone to taking the easy way out. I made just as much $$$ cleaning houses as the above chica I knew. I worked a helluva lot harder for every dollar than she did. I also worked longer hours and pulled better grades.

[quote]iscariot wrote:
BostonBarrister wrote:
I find it difficult to accept the premises of the hypothetical – namely the fact that a woman who was perfectly normal in every other way got into the business for a short time and then got out. I just don’t see that as realistic.

iscariot wrote:
Potential truth is stranger than potential fiction - look at the politics threads and tell me you can’t apply what you just stated above :slight_smile: [/quote]

Oh, I don’t think I would want to marry a politician either. I mean, for starters, look at the choices: Boxer, Hillary, Condi… There needs to be SOME physical attraction…

Besides, there’s probably a law about crossbreeding a lawyer and a politician (or if there’s not, there probably should be…)

On my original stance, I’m going to agree with some of the others – I haven’t even met a stripper who’s not all screwy, including a few I knew from college who were working their way through (I think they’re still working their way through, actually…). I just can’t believe that I’d be the lucky one to find the one-in-a-million non-screwed-up pornstarlet.

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
With that caveat, I don’t know that I could. The woman finds herself in a Catch-22 situation, in that she is scared of revealing the information sooner in the relationship because she is scared of the reaction. However, she creates a large implicit trust issue by witholding that extremely relevant information for so long – and the trust issue would tip the balance for me in terms of whether I would want a long-term relationship.

iscariot wrote:
But this is the same for lots of people; pretty much everone has done something in their lives that another person would have issues with. Similarly, you don’t start a relationship [on a friends level] by telling someone all your secrets - strangely enough this develops over time.

A secret is a secret is a secret - for a start, even if you think you know someone extremely well you cannot always guarantee that you know how they’ll react to something you tell them. For example, I’ve seen extremely fundamentalist christians barely raise an eyebrow when a gay friend came out to them [something the gay friend agonised about for ages]. Trust in the instance of a secret is something tha that not only implies trust of the other person, but also trust of your own feelings and emotions. [/quote]

I disagree, at least with the “a secret is a secret” rationale. To the extent it’s true at all, it’s only true from the perspective of the one with the secret – in that the person is keeping it secret because of embarassment or fear of reaction.

However, there’s obviously a difference in degree w/r/t secrets – if I keep my lowest ever grade in college a secret, that’s materially different than keeping jail-time served as a secret, because a normal, intelligent person would know that the probability is very high that another normal, intelligent person would consider the latter material information but not the former.

Now, granting me the assumption that everyone who has replied to the thread is a normal, intelligent person, and the fact that for the guys it’s about evenly split (women, on the other hand, have uninformly rejected the porn dudes), I think that’s good evidence I’m right. Heck, even the number of people who clicked through with prurient interest due to the title (assuming they weren’t looking to see pictures) indicates that people would view “I was a porn star” as material info.

And thus, the Catch-22. She will want to keep it secret, though she knows she should tell. She should tell early because if it’s a deal-breaker for someone, it will continue to be so, and she’ll just invest more time by prolonging. And if the porn isn’t, for some of us, keeping such a big secret would be a deal breaker, so she loses on that account too – and thus becomes the cause of exactly what she feared.

[quote]iscariot wrote:
To answer the question:

No problem - it’s hard enough finding a sweet, smart, attractive fun person without worrying about stuff that happened in the past that you have no control over.

People should also be careful not to make ad hominem comments about a person based on their profession - otherwise, the legitimate question could be raised would you marry someone who used to be a politician??

heh :)[/quote]

I am with you on this one dude!

She would make an interesting story when you tell your grandson which women to stay away from, though.

If no children were in the planning, sure- why not? However, I wouldn’t want to have to explain to Mica Jr why he went to a friends house and saw mommy gettin banged by 50 guys when he and his buddy snuck into his dad’s secret stash. That could be a hanging point.

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
iscariot wrote:-

People should also be careful not to make ad hominem comments about a person based on their profession - otherwise, the legitimate question could be raised would you marry someone who used to be a politician??

heh :slight_smile:

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So who is worse then;

  1. A politician who is dignified by ordering the killing of millions of people in a land not their own, or

2.A woman who kills her dignity for a living in the land of her own body?

You may not marry a politician but you vote for one…does that make you the same as the “hypocrite” who sponsors pornography?

?..maybe a politician woulb be an ideal partner for a porn star since they both “screw” people for a living and are thus highly compatible.
Look at Chealsea Clinton, for instance. She bears no resemblance to Bill, who may suck at lying but was a good “b_tch” for Hillary, who in turn may be a true proffessional at keeping secrets(=politician?) and is hidding an “alliance” with a male porn star.
???

OK, I have to revise my previous answer, I probably would not “marry” a porn star, then again, i’m probably not going to marry anyone. People change, and while I have had several great long term relationships, we eventually wanted to go in separate directions, and it was better that we were not more tied “legaly”.

That being said, if I did find the one person who I actually felt I could marry, and she had been in porn, it would not be a deal braker for me.

All the arguments are about these women having issues. Well no shit your not going to marry someone with issues, we are talking about this is your perfect woman, a person that completes you, with the one caviat of having been in a porn movie. Also lets forget the gangbang queens here and just focus on a girl who has done either straight MF sex and also FF sex scenes.

Also to the point about her keeping her past a secret? I don’t think that would be the case, most of these girls actually like what they do and will be open about it. Sex isn’t as big of a hangup, especially with us younger tikes.

OK so I would still definately date one, and if it was “the one” so to speak, yes I would marry her.

Also on the issue with children, if I can accept that my wife was in porn, then I will be able to communicate at an appropriate age, about mommys past and how it was ok, Kinda like the talk parents give about drugs (good parents). “I expirimented with it, but I could feel it wasn’t the right thing to do eventually so I gave it up. Now I am a stronger person because of overcoming the obstacle of it” type talk.

On the other hand, I am not looking to have any more kids, so I doubt that will be a problem.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:
BostonBarrister wrote:
iscariot wrote:-

People should also be careful not to make ad hominem comments about a person based on their profession - otherwise, the legitimate question could be raised would you marry someone who used to be a politician??

heh :slight_smile:

So who is worse then;

  1. A politician who is dignified by ordering the killing of millions of people in a land not their own, or

2.A woman who kills her dignity for a living in the land of her own body?

You may not marry a politician but you vote for one…does that make you the same as the “hypocrite” who sponsors pornography?

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Umm – how is that a logical comparison?

OK –

Sub-discussion –

I agree that everyone has his or her own issues, but don’t you think some issues are more likely to screw up a relationship than others? Like, say, for instance, resenting men because of the fact that all men are generalized to former strip-club patrons and the fans at porn conventions? Or the other issues generally associated with the abuse that often is a precursor to a career as a stripper or pornstarlet?

Remember, this is in the abstract, which to me means I’m dealing with probabilities. If you think you’ve found a special case of a girl who just got into it because she loved exhibitionist sex or needed money and had none of the big-time issues that generally go along with the whole lifestyle (Mufasa’s example of Savannah is a classic case in point for anyone who knows the story), then great – but caveat emptor.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
I would like for you guys to again think CAREFULLY about two issues that I think would be important to explore a little furthur (that we’ve alluded to here and there…)

  1. BB brings up an issue that needs a little more discussion…could a young women even be in this buisness without some “issues”? (Keeping in mind that a LOT of people in life have “issues” who are NOT in porn…)

  2. Just to reiterate…

Is the person who buys, downloads, saves, sells, wacks-off to and is almost “addicted” to porn a “better” person than the performer? Is her openess about her past worse than the hypocrisy that many people exhibit when they talk about what she did?

Judging others can REALLY get us onto a slippery slope…

Post away! (Gotta’ get to work!)

Mufasa[/quote]

Alright, I’m waiting on a conference call, so I have a few minutes to play. I will bite on this one.

  1. I will concur that basically everyone has “issues,” however, how they manifest themselves in our lives is the point of relevance. IMHO, porn is a pretty self destructive outlet. So no, I don’t think she/he could.

  2. Back to #1, I think they are manifestations of entirely different “issues” and difficult to compare. I wouldn’t assess it as a judgement of who is better, but rather who has bigger “issues.”

To assess that, I would need to know alot more but would state that, out of the gate, the watcher of porn would have some catching up to do with the actor.

In other words, the watcher would have to be on a clear and charted course to “Sick Puppyville” for it to even things out.

On a side note, I remember a family that moved into my childhood neighborhood. I went over there to meet their kids.

We went downstairs and were just doing kid things. One of the kids started to go upstairs to get something and was told to stay downstairs. I asked what was going on and was informed that Mom and Dad were taping a dirty movie (presumably from some cable channel.)

This was at like 4P on a Tuesday with kids in the house ranging from 8-11. Over the course of the next couple of weeks I came to find this was a common event. I can remember sometimes you could hear the sounds from the movies. It creeped me out so I quit going over there.

The kids used to talk about the movies as they would sneek opportunites to see them.

To me, on the parents behalf, this represents a pretty solid and charted course to “Sick Puppyville.” These folks had lost control of the situation and it was impacting their kids on a pretty frequent basis.

To address the question of my daughter doing porn, I would love her regardless of her life decisions (unconditional love) but I wouldn’t respect her or think highly of her if she did porn. Call me old fashsioned, but porn is prostitution on film, and that is not a respectable carrer choice.
I think it shows terrible self esteem for a girl to be willing to have sex with many different random guys for money.
Any woman with class, which is the only type I’m interested in, would be extremely insulted by the idea of being in porn.
Believe it or not, some people hold their morals above any monetary reward, some people would rather be able to look at themselves in the mirror every morning and be proud of who they are, then to have made millions or billions by comprimising their integrity. That is the only type of person I would spend the rest of my life with, and it is the type of child I want to raise.

[quote]steveo wrote:

Believe it or not, some people hold their morals above any monetary reward, some people would rather be able to look at themselves in the mirror every morning and be proud of who they are, then to have made millions or billions by comprimising their integrity. That is the only type of person I would spend the rest of my life with, and it is the type of child I want to raise.

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Now we are getting to the point where I thought this would end up, It all comes down to morals, you think a person HAS to be going against thier morals or have a crappy self esteem issue to be in porn. I disagree 100% My morals say it is fine for people to be doing porn. Hell even prostitution is good in my book. Many of us would go out and bang an entire sorority in college but when a girl does it for money, it’s somehow different? Plus with all the attention these people get nowadays, there is practically a whole sub-society where these people are treated as well as hollywood stars. I am sure that most of them are healthier people than you are making them out to be.

So again, it comes down to where your morals lie and not if that person is going against thier morals.

Marry? Not a chance in hell.

Every time I have ever heard a porn star say anything, it has been a case study in either naked hedonism or incurable insecurity. I’m no psychiatrist, but these women just don’t seem strong or confident - they seem desparate for attention and weak.

Being married to a woman I can’t respect 100% would be difficult if not impossible. I prefer strong women, and I have no qualms about saying that the lack of self-respect a garden variety porn star has for herself would be a huge dealbreaker.

Sex is normal and healthy, but it is also powerful and worthy of respect - any woman who decides to have sex with anyone under a contract just ain’t my kind of gal in the longterm.

Yes!!!

Then have it annulled 5 days later. But man, those 5 days…

soco