Would you go deeply into debt to do the following:
Go deeply into debt to take a job that starts at about $32,000/year, most of your clientele are assholes who constantly interrupt your work, you have to take work home every night and work at it all evening? Then, when the assholes don’t do their part, YOU are held responsible? You can be immediately terminated, your career ruined, for saying ‘shit’ or ‘dammit’? To fill out form after form about each of your assholish clients?
If you haven’t figured out by now, I’m talking about teaching.
We’ve got a serious problem, folks. You guys expect people to run up huge college debts to do the job above. You then expect test scores to go up, because you gave more tax dollars TO ADMINISTRATORS (guess what? They hire more administrators; doubled since 1992).
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
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It’s doomed because it’s not run like a private business. Your attitude of entitlement just perpetuates the decline of our nation’s school system.
You’ve been teaching 28 years and you make $32,000? Quit fucking lying. My girlfriend just signed her 1st contract to teach 3rd grade next year for $36,500. I would gather to say you’re making around $80K.
Hopefully you haven’t forgot about the free healthcare, free pension plan, all while working 9 months of the year?
I love how you refer to the kids you teach as “asshole clientele.” Real classy there teach.
Do the kids in your community a favor and jump off a fucking bridge.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Would you go deeply into debt to do the following:
Go deeply into debt to take a job that starts at about $32,000/year, most of your clientele are assholes who constantly interrupt your work, you have to take work home every night and work at it all evening? Then, when the assholes don’t do their part, YOU are held responsible? You can be immediately terminated, your career ruined, for saying ‘shit’ or ‘dammit’? To fill out form after form about each of your assholish clients?
If you haven’t figured out by now, I’m talking about teaching.
We’ve got a serious problem, folks. You guys expect people to run up huge college debts to do the job above. You then expect test scores to go up, because you gave more tax dollars TO ADMINISTRATORS (guess what? They hire more administrators; doubled since 1992).
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
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Deeply into debt to go to a state school in one of the easier majors?
Work 6 hour days 9 months a year?
Be protected by your union when you are abusive to the kids?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Would you go deeply into debt to do the following:
Go deeply into debt to take a job that starts at about $32,000/year, most of your clientele are assholes who constantly interrupt your work, you have to take work home every night and work at it all evening? Then, when the assholes don’t do their part, YOU are held responsible? You can be immediately terminated, your career ruined, for saying ‘shit’ or ‘dammit’? To fill out form after form about each of your assholish clients?
If you haven’t figured out by now, I’m talking about teaching.
We’ve got a serious problem, folks. You guys expect people to run up huge college debts to do the job above. You then expect test scores to go up, because you gave more tax dollars TO ADMINISTRATORS (guess what? They hire more administrators; doubled since 1992).
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
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Damn, I told you if you kept taking steroids you would get fired.
Yeah, HH I feel your pain. Teaching must really interfere with you gym training and web surfing. How do you find the time? Your 8669 posts since October 2002 is only 125 posts per month or 4 posts per day.
Teaching is a very important and tough profession. I’m grateful for and sympathize with the teachers, most were good, some were amazing. With all offence intended, I pray my kids never have a shitty teacher like you.
The will to win comes from within; sadly you never had it in you.
You’ve been teaching 28 years and you make $32,000? Quit fucking lying. My girlfriend just signed her 1st contract to teach 3rd grade next year for $36,500. I would gather to say you’re making around $80K.
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Keep in mind, teacher salaries vary drastically depending on State and district.
My wife started at $42k, and the pay scale, after 13 years, tops out at $109k.
However, my Aunt, who has been teaching in Florida for well over 20 years, makes about $30k.
You’ve been teaching 28 years and you make $32,000? Quit fucking lying. My girlfriend just signed her 1st contract to teach 3rd grade next year for $36,500. I would gather to say you’re making around $80K.
Keep in mind, teacher salaries vary drastically depending on State and district.
My wife started at $42k, and the pay scale, after 13 years, tops out at $109k.
However, my Aunt, who has been teaching in Florida for well over 20 years, makes about $30k.[/quote]
are you serious? I’m pretty sure in MD, unless you have a PhD and teaching at a University you’re not bringing in over $60k/yr
:shrug:
I could be wrong.
[quote]jnnak wrote:
Sure I’d take the job for only having to work 180 or so days a year.[/quote]
Okay…do you remember your hs experience? Now look at it from the teacher’s vantage point: Take 5 classes, each with 30 students. Usually about 3 have an IQ above room temperature.
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
It’s doomed because it’s not run like a private business. Your attitude of entitlement just perpetuates the decline of our nation’s school system.
You’ve been teaching 28 years and you make $32,000? Quit fucking lying. My girlfriend just signed her 1st contract to teach 3rd grade next year for $36,500. I would gather to say you’re making around $80K.
Hopefully you haven’t forgot about the free healthcare, free pension plan, all while working 9 months of the year?
I love how you refer to the kids you teach as “asshole clientele.” Real classy there teach.
Do the kids in your community a favor and jump off a fucking bridge.
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I see you were dicking around when reading comprehension was covered. Or maybe you don’t know the meaning of the word ‘starting’.
Maybe you’re one of my former students…see original post.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
let’s not forget about banging underage girls [/quote]
This comment doesn’t surprise me at all, considering the source is a guy that beats him self in the car until caught, on Mondays to start the week right. Belligerent, seriously don’t do it, you’re such a liability that you probably get her pregnant from shaking your hand and you’d get caught doing donuts in the school parking lot.
Q: Did you mom ever catch you whacking it in the closet?
[quote]NateOrade wrote:
Well, senior girls can be 18. Seriously though if I were a teacher I’d do my best to bang as many hot ones as possible.
Hell maybe I ought to go visit my old high school in a couple years when I’m really jacked and rich and “volunteer” as a sub for a day or something…[/quote]
Ever notice that when the female teachers get busted for screwing their male students it’s only the boys mother crying ‘Wha, wha, my poor baby’. How come the boy or his father never appear in public? Probably because they’re busy high fiveing and drinking beers. No self respecting father nor son will ever be crying or complaining, f’yeah.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Would you go deeply into debt to do the following:
Go deeply into debt to take a job that starts at about $32,000/year, most of your clientele are assholes who constantly interrupt your work, you have to take work home every night and work at it all evening? Then, when the assholes don’t do their part, YOU are held responsible? You can be immediately terminated, your career ruined, for saying ‘shit’ or ‘dammit’? To fill out form after form about each of your assholish clients?
If you haven’t figured out by now, I’m talking about teaching.
We’ve got a serious problem, folks. You guys expect people to run up huge college debts to do the job above. You then expect test scores to go up, because you gave more tax dollars TO ADMINISTRATORS (guess what? They hire more administrators; doubled since 1992).
Our system just purely sucks…and I means totally. Been teaching 28 years and…we are fucking doomed.
Damn, I told you if you kept taking steroids you would get fired.[/quote]
[quote]rsg wrote:
HH, you could go teach at a private school? You do get private schools in the states, right?
That being said, I would not go into debt for a job. I’d find a job I like doing, that pays well, and stick with it.
Also, along with teachers, I think the police, firefighters and any of the life-risking jobs pay way too little.[/quote]
Most people come out of college here with a debt load of at least 50 or 60 thousand dollars. That’s if they went to a typical public university. Of course, there are exceptions and a lot of people work their way through school.
But I contend that it is irrational to expect people to go into debt like that, for a job that pays low, is very demanding in terms of pure hours worked and discipline problems, with no advancement (unless you leave the classroom). We’ve seen a dramatic fall off in quality of teachers, with the profession becoming equivalent to a K Mart clerk position.
Unions, confrontational administrations, being watched all the time like some assembly line worker,…it just fucking sucks.
