[quote]malty_goodness wrote:
actually its chinese. they’re speaking cantonese if i’m not wrong. [/quote]
yea they are speaking cantonese, one lady in the background keeps on saying “its scary”, that’s all I could understand…
It certainly must be more gross than eating the over 50% of calories from refined grains, sugars, and fats that the average Westerner consumes.
As for savagery, no culture/country has exclusive bragging rights, though many will use differences to dehumanize those not part of their own group.
I didn’t watch the videos, but wanted to post that I’ve caught, filleted, and eaten raw, various fish right on the boat (salmon, trout, etc).
Not flipping live, but about as fresh a sushi as you can get.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
And the taiwanese version
Look, its IN THEIR GENES (orientals, chinese, japs, viets, thai) to be apathetic to suffering (animal OR human)…its not something that can change easily. Watch the movie “Hei tai yang” or “Man behind the Sun”, and you’ll see what happens when two of the cruelest races meet each other in conflict.
Japs have used human subjects in their famous “experiments to determine the limit of human pain” well before the Nazis embarked on anything similar.[/quote]
Are you serious with this ignorant shit?
Fucked up shit has happened in every culture around the world. Still happens in every culture around the world. I could point to the inhumane conditions of animal farms all over. I could note that the poster above who talked about the lobster sashimi in Texas is probably not Asian. I could talk about some gory, fucked up crimes that occurred in America, perpetrated by people of all races. But you know what I couldn’t do? I couldn’t provide actual statistical proof that said any race was any more prone to savagery and cruelty than any other, once the conditions of culture and upbringing were factored in. You know why? Because it doesn’t exist.
As a general rule, I’ve been eating before I go fishing. There is a direct correlation between how hungry I am and a fish getting killed.
I’ve been catching native brook trout lately and there have been a few that just looked so damned tasty that they almost didn’t make it back into the water.
As a side note, I believe that people should at least once in their life hunt, kill, and eat an animal to prevent a separation or disconnection from the fact that we too are animals. Otherwise you end up with reactions like-
“Eating anything that is still moving, wether dead or alive, is just sick. Unless Satan rose from the firey pits of hell and the only way of killing him was to eat him alive, then no, you are just a sick individual for doing such a thing. Fucking Japs.”
who is obviously much better of a person than the entire race of “Japs”.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
I’ve had a Japanese version of it. They take a fish out of an aquarium and start making sashimi out of it. It’s pretty “genki” (energetic) by the time it reaches your table.[/quote]
Haha I can just picture a Japanese chick looking down at her plate and saying “Genki desu kaaa” in her helium voice.
Reminds me of a bar in Japan where they had a shot (idk what liquor) and they’d toss a small live fish into it (maybe a minnow?) and it would begin to flop around violently and you’d hurry up and take the shot. Wish I knew what they called it, I can’t find anything similar online.
I remember watching an episode of man vs. wild and watching Bear catch a salmon up in Alaska and bite its flesh while it was still moving around. I wasn’t really that grossed out and would definately do that to survive.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
And the taiwanese version
Look, its IN THEIR GENES (orientals, chinese, japs, viets, thai) to be apathetic to suffering (animal OR human)…its not something that can change easily. Watch the movie “Hei tai yang” or “Man behind the Sun”, and you’ll see what happens when two of the cruelest races meet each other in conflict.
Japs have used human subjects in their famous “experiments to determine the limit of human pain” well before the Nazis embarked on anything similar.[/quote]
You’re a racist prick.
‘It’s in their genes?’ really? Yeah, that’s right the holocaust was conducted by the Japs, and the Chinese taught Americans how slavery is done.
Every culture I can think of has a recorded history of abuse, torture and what not.
Fuck off with this ignorance ass wipe.
Members of every race have perpetrated gore at some point or the other. I already posted a link on dehumanization in another thread.
But not many cultural groups have a fucking TRADITION(s) of inflicting the MAXIMUM suffering possible on living beings.
[quote]blithe wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
And the taiwanese version
Look, its IN THEIR GENES (orientals, chinese, japs, viets, thai) to be apathetic to suffering (animal OR human)…its not something that can change easily. Watch the movie “Hei tai yang” or “Man behind the Sun”, and you’ll see what happens when two of the cruelest races meet each other in conflict.
Japs have used human subjects in their famous “experiments to determine the limit of human pain” well before the Nazis embarked on anything similar.
Are you serious with this ignorant shit?
Fucked up shit has happened in every culture around the world. Still happens in every culture around the world. I could point to the inhumane conditions of animal farms all over. I could note that the poster above who talked about the lobster sashimi in Texas is probably not Asian. I could talk about some gory, fucked up crimes that occurred in America, perpetrated by people of all races. But you know what I couldn’t do? I couldn’t provide actual statistical proof that said any race was any more prone to savagery and cruelty than any other, once the conditions of culture and upbringing were factored in. You know why? Because it doesn’t exist. [/quote]
Another activist? my my my
The WHOLE point of inflicting PAIN on the live animal pre-cooking is to flood the body with endorphins/adrenaline/whatever to improve the taste…
For the slow, I repeat…EVERY culture has been guilty of dehumanization at some point or the other, and and yes human beings have been or are being tortured far worse by other NON asian humans worldwide.
That is NOT the same as having an ongoing nationally accepted tradition of inflicting MAXIMUM pain while still alive.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
And the taiwanese version
Look, its IN THEIR GENES (orientals, chinese, japs, viets, thai) to be apathetic to suffering (animal OR human)…its not something that can change easily. Watch the movie “Hei tai yang” or “Man behind the Sun”, and you’ll see what happens when two of the cruelest races meet each other in conflict.
Japs have used human subjects in their famous “experiments to determine the limit of human pain” well before the Nazis embarked on anything similar.
You’re a racist prick.
‘It’s in their genes?’ really? Yeah, that’s right the holocaust was conducted by the Japs, and the Chinese taught Americans how slavery is done.
Every culture I can think of has a recorded history of abuse, torture and what not.
Fuck off with this ignorance ass wipe.[/quote]
I already put up a video of the living skinned sashimi a post earlier.
[quote]crimson_lily wrote:
PimpBot5000 wrote:
I’ve had a Japanese version of it. They take a fish out of an aquarium and start making sashimi out of it. It’s pretty “genki” (energetic) by the time it reaches your table.
Haha I can just picture a Japanese chick looking down at her plate and saying “Genki desu kaaa” in her helium voice.
Reminds me of a bar in Japan where they had a shot (idk what liquor) and they’d toss a small live fish into it (maybe a minnow?) and it would begin to flop around violently and you’d hurry up and take the shot. Wish I knew what they called it, I can’t find anything similar online. [/quote]
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Here you go, sliced in half. And still alive
Fishes have a different concept of pain imo, some say they don’t feel pain at all (no cortex)[/quote]
I recall reading (Don’t have the link one me, but maybe this is enough to help you find it) a study which showed that fish felt pain.
The method of the study was to observe fish in an aquarium for a prolonged period of time and record their actions, the researchers then injected bee pollen into the fishes lips and recorded the amount of times the fish rubbed their swollen lips against the pebbles at the bottom of the aquarium. The number of times drastically increased.
So fish can feel bee stings, showing that they can feel at least something; still thing being put into a deep fryer alive would hurt.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
As a side note, I believe that people should at least once in their life hunt, kill, and eat an animal to prevent a separation or disconnection from the fact that we too are animals.
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I agree with this all too much, I have killed my own fish, and soon (with the help of a farmer friend) will help with the preparation of a chicken for a dinner. I feel I can appreciate my animal protein more, even if my intake went down.
Also, I go to a farmers market to meet and talk with those who raised the animals; It’s hard to cook a steak when you know it’s name was ‘Rose’.
i’d do it.
i currently reside in korea and they eat stuff like this. one popular dish is octopus. you dont usually eat it live, but they literally cut it up alive and serve it. so, it’s still moving when you eat it. sucks on your tongue and all. they also boil a lot of fish and shrimp alive.
hmmm, actually i dont think i could do it. boiling them alive is one thing, but actually putting your teeth/chopsticks/fork into it while it slowly died seems a bit much for me.
you’re putting the poor thing out of its misery when you actually eat it.
The sick thing is the prolonged suffering we put it through before eating it.
I’m not a fan of this type of stuff myself, because in the end, its a novelty trick at the expense of the animal, it serves no purpose other than to get a reaction: “Holy shit I’m eating an animal alive.”
[quote]rundymc wrote:
you’re putting the poor thing out of its misery when you actually eat it.
The sick thing is the prolonged suffering we put it through before eating it.
I’m not a fan of this type of stuff myself, because in the end, its a novelty trick at the expense of the animal, it serves no purpose other than to get a reaction: “Holy shit I’m eating an animal alive.”[/quote]
well actually, it’s not novelty value for them. they have all kinds of beliefs surrounding the kinds of dishes, ranging from it being able to cure the common cold, to it being good for your hardon.
[quote]AdamC wrote:
well actually, it’s not novelty value for them. they have all kinds of beliefs surrounding the kinds of dishes, ranging from it being able to cure the common cold, to it being good for your hardon. [/quote]
yup, they sure do have them weird cures. but i doubt this one with the fried fish has anything to do with it, besides an attempt to be as fresh as possible.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
And the taiwanese version
Look, its IN THEIR GENES (orientals, chinese, japs, viets, thai) to be apathetic to suffering (animal OR human)…its not something that can change easily. Watch the movie “Hei tai yang” or “Man behind the Sun”, and you’ll see what happens when two of the cruelest races meet each other in conflict.
Japs have used human subjects in their famous “experiments to determine the limit of human pain” well before the Nazis embarked on anything similar.[/quote]
Fuck you asshole.
Persian Cruelty
English Cruelty
Russian Cruelty
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/most-horrific-russian-torture-devices/8850
Peruvian Cruelty
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/04/0425_020426_mochekillings.html
African Cruelty
(More) Chinese Cruelty
Can we just concede here that HUMANS are capable of inhuman acts?